when change TC system!
FIXES:
- Silent Death works with 14mm and .223 pistols.
Seriously... Big disappointment... :-\Double loggin' is still alive.... It ain't a big disappointment, it's a disastah!
...the rollbacks have ended.Don't jinx it!
I can't believe you don't understand that pvplayers are blood of this serverNo. Roleplayers are blood of this server [evil laugh].
Well i think it is pathetic about all these people complaining...
(...)this isn't your game this is the devs, its up to them that you even PLAY the game...., so please just stop complaining people.
Ok i calmed down.FIX TC NAO!!1111
I can't believe you don't understand that pvplayers are blood of this server. So why you don't make update for them?
No. Roleplayers are blood of this server [evil laugh].You both are wrong. NCR idlers are blood of this server, only they remained.
Thanks to me and Brujah's effort of sacrificing children to the rollback god, the rollbacks have ended.
- Brotherhood armor/helmet craftable/obtainable
Nice try :P
Sorry, for some reason I read Brotherhood armor and I thought you mean PA :P
I thought there was some plan to make BA obtainable, too lazy to search devs posts on forum.
<lexx> the patch content was done over the past months since the last update. so if there is something inside that you find shit or whatever unfitting, it probably was done 5 months ago.
This is how CHANGELOG should looks like:Sounds good to me, best of all, it doesn't even conflict or interrupt with normal players/roleplayers/ncr idlers actions.
- SD removed or SD works only with single shot attacks.
- TC changed(TC info, 15 minutes timer, militia&mercs removed from TC system)
- Brotherhood armor/helmet craftable/obtainable
- Armor deterioration system changed
- Crits for bursts changed
- Missing blueprints and materials added
- Missing caravans added
It's essential if you want players back. Is it so hard?
Increased damage and clip size for XL70E3
clipIT'S A MAGAZINE, GARAND AND K98K HAVE CLIPS.
at the end of the day, the game is our hobby and not our job, a lot of the time some feature that gets one or more of us interested in it can jump to the head of the queue.
It's not a slap to anyone. Devs just work on things that are interesting for them.
It would be stupid to work on something for free if it's not interesting, fun or
motivating in any other way. I doubt constant bitching on forum is motivating.
You don't know what you ask for, if you want someone to work for you for
a week straight without any positive incentive. Remember it's a HOBBY and
nobody here owes you anything.
IT'S A MAGAZINE, GARAND AND K98K HAVE CLIPS.Ahah, yes you're right. I remember some old games from the 90s always referring to it as a clip.
- Removed cap for Armor Class.
<lexx> the patch content was done over the past months since the last update. so if there is something inside that you find shit or whatever unfitting, it probably was done 5 months ago.
That's a bullshit approach and you know it. At the end of the day it's just a game competing with other games whether it's free or not. The players are not here to give the devs personal counseling or help them with their motivational problems, they're here to have fun. With the amount of things the 2238 team managed to mess up and their awful attitude they should be glad they're receiving any feedback at all, even if it's negative. And yeah, it is their game so they're absolutely free to kill it or take a dump on their playerbase - but expecting praise for doing just that is beyond ridiculous. In the end it's not the nay-sayers who are full of false entitlement because we just voice our opinion and quit when we've had enough. On the other hand, you (meaning the devs, the GMs and the rest of the bunch) are the very definition of false entitlement because you're expecting praise for a crappy product only because it's hurr-free-durr.One thing.....Shut the fuck up and just play the damn game......no one cares about your petty whining of how bad the game is bla bla bla so just play the damn game and be quiet.
no one cares
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See u soon.
Hope there will be any changelogs in next year.
I agree with this. If the devs want to make the game enjoyable to play they should really listen to the playerbase.
Ummm small suggestion for the next update:Bring back 10mm smg to encounters seriously the m1a1 grease gun is way overused for a WWII gun.Seriously 10smg isn't even a terrebly good weapon.10mm ammo makes impressive crits in comparison to greasegun ammo if i remember right, also a full loaded greasegun nicely lost all their ammu with a unlucky critical fail.. thats annoying, but balanced somehow. for example, those time where you was able to get massive amounts of 10mm ammo in boneyard was ridiculous.. :-\ and .45 ammu is more easy to craft, less materials, less dmg output.. fits somehow..
..and misguided people who don't know the game thoroughly.....iam one of them. thanks for counting us in that enumeration.
anyone with some writing skills can make his ideas sound like the game really needs them. Same people have the ability to supress actually good suggestions by blatant nonsense.would be a mess
Well then someone better tell gamebalance needs to hurry the fuck up.there are a lot of people who telling many things into the face of the game balance right now..
yeah.. gamebalance and reallifelogic aren´t married.. :(Well then someone better tell gamebalance needs to hurry the fuck up.
maybe someday the gamebalance will be brave enough to ask for it, but for now....
Hello, love the game, playing since the start of third season.
I really would like to update and get this, when using updater:
Connecting to the update server...
Can't connect to the update server (176.9.105.171).
In an older thread someone says it may be because update server might be down, is this the case right now?
And how do i put the server info into the updater, ip seems to be right, port number 4040 i dont see..
I tried Foconfig.exe/Fo2238config.exe and the .cfg documents, but nowhere an option to enter update server specs.. ???
I hope to be in the wastes again soon, and am sorry if this is off-topic. I have no searching-talents :P
THX in advance
BLDYMSS
't was the firewall, damn i'm stupid. ;D
One thing.....Shut the fuck up and just play the damn game......no one cares about your petty whining of how bad the game is bla bla bla so just play the damn game and be quiet.I'm too busy working on another project to play a broken team shooter.
I'm too busy working on another project to play a broken team shooter.Than why are you still here complaining about how bad the game is?
I'm too busy working on another project to play a broken team shooter.
Than why are you still here complaining about how bad the game is?Because I'm nice enough to still give a fuck or two about 2238's fate.
what a failure ... go badass, shows us how it's done.::)
Because I'm nice enough to still give a fuck or two about 2238's fate.
Nice_boat tell a lie, there are plenty enough players that still " give a fuck ", though none so noble and relentless as you. ;DDoesn't change the fact I've been warning the devs about this even before you started playing, so why don't you just piss off and try trolling someone else?
How nice of you. I'm sure they have considered your vast knowledge, and wise counsel over these past few years.Christ, do you even know what PMs are for, or are you so childish you think that talking smack to me in public is making you look cool? And yeah, they actually have implemented some of my ideas, but you wouldn't know about that. So how about you stop acting like a spoiled brat, eh?
So basically your saying that you have been anoying for a much longer time than i thought?
arguing with you feels like beating on a dead horse
I'm too busy working on another project to play a broken team shooter.
I'm too busy working on another project to play a broken team shooter.
would be cool to know about, what youre doing?How about that little fella (http://www.newfmc.pl/wasteland2155/board/)?
you talk that much about the dev´s work.. tell us something about you.. :)
Manero why didn't you report it in bug section?
...Yeah, whatever you say, kid. I'm just a tryhard trying to look cool even though I hardly even use this board anymore. Christ, even trying to talk to you is just such a waste of time.
How about that little fella (http://www.newfmc.pl/wasteland2155/board/)?
And no, I'm not working on this anymore, just trying to be helpful here.
I'm just a tryhard trying to look cool even though I hardly even use this board anymore.
I have nothing against randomness in pvp, but just a reasonable amount,
Did you really think about this?
THIS is FALLOUT, not your own goofy really really shitty isometric laggy pvp simulator even if you use it as such!
I just switch my aimed shot to groin, no helmet there.
A little of new crit table:
For those who don't understand. Something went terribly wrong here.
has anyone tested a sd sneaker since the update? I'm really hoping they removed bypasses.
i remember myself, once complaining about a update in news and announcements section.. said something like "this game dont deserve the master.dat and critter.dat".. very embarrassing moment for me..
and that here is your moment..
TC is reverted to the last version with the next patch, btw.
TC is reverted to the last version with the next patch, btw.Awesome. I'm really hoping this is just the beginning, keep it up ;D
Any hope for militia nerf along with that?
You know the old story: no mercs in militia, max size is about 8, no over the top weapons or hps.
TC is reverted to the last version with the next patch, btw.
Additionally militia should be totally disabled. Let's try it again.Am I dreaming? Why are there are tears in my eyes?
Remember why militia was added in first place: to protect people who want to stay inside the town, because they are in weaker standing from pvp point of view, it's easy to scout players who are inside. This rule hasn't gone anywhere so either you nerf militia, or remove it and add some other temptation to stay inside or just don't give a damn the whole subject. That leads to the controlling faction always evacuation to worldmap, leaving the town empty. But guess that's least of the problems.I came up with the idea of militia to prevent bluesuit captures and give a "you're being fucked" warning to the controlling gang. It's been obsolete since the first gear checks and I actually do feel bad I ever suggested introducing it in the first place.
"In the next patch". Now tell me when this patch comes.
What abount sneaker who can beat fighter with CA?
Heavy handed sneaker with unarmed and SD?
Additionally militia should be totally disabled. Let's try it again.
I came up with the idea of militia to prevent bluesuit captures and give a "you're being fucked" warning to the controlling gang. It's been obsolete since the first gear checks and I actually do feel bad I ever suggested introducing it in the first place.
removeing millita all together will destroy projects like tsar,ttla,bhh ones leave some. we like are projects and frankly solo tttla,bhh and tsar even with full members cant beat all the constant attacks on are projects without millita. leave 10 and atleast give northern town projects a chance. or we are going to need to make this game even more boring and place mercs all over which defeats the whole point of removeing millita.
Hmm. My stand on this was always the same, if you can't hold and defend the town on your own, then maybe you don't deserve to control it. The idea was that the players are the guards. Let's try again.you must have never afked in a town. you must just take a town and go. try to run a rp project based on what you say. you will fail. all i ask it that rp factions have a minor chance to defend themselfs. you can kill 20 millita in under 3 min i dont see 10 as even a minor problem. 10 will just help rp factions against minor attacks and provide cover fire for a little bit in big fights. all i ask is give rp factions a chance this way we get rp and when you want some pvp you come to are rp and come fight like it was last era.
if you can't hold and defend the town on your own, then maybe you don't deserve to control it.Amen to that.
Hmm. My stand on this was always the same, if you can't hold and defend the town on your own, then maybe you don't deserve to control it. The idea was that the players are the guards. Let's try again.
I can garantee anyone that we will have more pve in towns with militia
Hmm. My stand on this was always the same, if you can't hold and defend the town on your own, then maybe you don't deserve to control it. The idea was that the players are the guards. Let's try again.
you must have never afked in a town
You talk about controlling while the ape-faction way to control is to leave the town empty. How can you control the town if you have no members inside?
But the thing is, these projects falloutdude speaks about are made out of pure goodwill. They provide interaction unlik any other, but are incredibly vulnerable due to the fact they aren't playing like ape factions. As you know ape faction has 24/7 war face on and kills everything that isn't a friend just in case.
You talk about controlling while the ape-faction way to control is to leave the town empty. How can you control the town if you have no members inside?
Great! I would like to try again, now i must download 2238 client.
Well then, i disagree.
I have nothing against RP, but what is RP with militia? I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make sense.
If friendly players are controlling the town and stay inside, more players - hostile and friendly alike will gather there.
fixed.
You are wrong and its a very annoying part of town capture.
in last sesion we CS wanted to fight with some gangs when we were 5-7 but we couldnt becasue of 20 500hp rocket/sniper/avenger/lsw militia in ma mk2 and 5 rp players. they were camping behing militia and it was pathetic that we cant do shit becasue of those 20 op npcs. try to run ur project like a man not like whinning kids. if you are to weak why you should keep this town. big fish eat small fish
This is said millions times, nobody likes these NPC wars. Just remove militia and be done with it.
a big clusterfuck between npc's and players.
..that's why fonline get eaten.
big fish eat small fish
we could implement arroyo and playing the fallout 2 storyline together, with the last few people on server..Well we could have a GM create an alt called ''the chosen one'' or ''Narg'' and have him do a few canon fallout 2 things
i am looking forward to a epic battle with 5 wastelander dudes against metzger and his guys in the den.
on level 5 we could team up and try to smash those evil slavers :) sure, we need permadeath. one of the important parts of that idea. cant say why i have the attitude to drive everything offtopic. iam just a bad guy
we could implement arroyo and playing the fallout 2 storyline together, with the last few people on server..
i am looking forward to a epic battle with 5 wastelander dudes against metzger and his guys in the den.
on level 5 we could team up and try to smash those evil slavers :) sure, we need permadeath. one of the important parts of that idea. cant say why i have the attitude to drive everything offtopic. iam just a bad guy
As for this new TC system about to be removed, i wish you good luck to balance it for the next cession. It is theorically very interessting, albeit very impractical for now.Same from here the concept was interesting I wish we will see it later again maybe in the next season.
Same from here the concept was interesting I wish we will see it later again maybe in the next season.
Only good thing about the current tc was that you got suplies for actually being inside the town.
and balanced XL70E3!
Funny how at the start of this topic everyone was happy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MLzcm1YVWE
Found this and reminded me of all this players hating devs thing.
Shit, then we better shut down the server now.
It'd be the best option. We see that you're trying to do something, but firstly you don't have time, secondly - you don't listen to the players. Shut down this server and give out the code, so other developers - and there are still many with enough time and will - can fix what need fixing, add their fresh ideas and start a new server. Everyone aprecciate what you've done, you'll be always remembered as a team which made that major steps in history of FOnline, but your time has gone - you know it.
You guys are really beginning to act as a bunch of spoiled whiny 2 year olds that didn't get exactly what they expected for Christmas. Nah, your not beginning.... Seriously, I thought this game was dead, but it limpers along, give the devs some slack. If I were plunking around in the codebase (I'm sure by now its a steamy pile of convoluted shit) I'd tell you all to pound this game up your ass.
and what did you expect? 6months with out udate and when you get it, it is "we have our ideas and we dont listen comunity".
and what did you expect? 6months with out udate and when you get it, it is "we have our ideas and we dont listen comunity". they fixed only fov and even unbalace this game even more. they boosted sd and fucked crit tabels. we wanted tc and armors fix, + more encounters but we got sd boost. well good job devs showed they dont read forum and players sugestions. i have idea make sd working with bg ;D 400 damage from rl is better that 2k damage from greese ;]
I grow tired of this. Fun fact: Most of the changes we ever made are based on ideas and talk from the community. But of course, let's ignore that all together. Makes the blaming a lot easier, doesn't it.
Yes, I fail to understand, thank you for bringing the light to me. Apparently you fail to understand that it is impossible to get the full community to agree on any single point. "The Community" is not a single entity. It is many people with lots of different ideas and tastes.
Yes, I fail to understand, thank you for bringing the light to me. Apparently you fail to understand that it is impossible to get the full community to agree on any single point. "The Community" is not a single entity. It is many people with lots of different ideas and tastes.
Yes, I fail to understand, thank you for bringing the light to me. Apparently you fail to understand that it is impossible to get the full community to agree on any single point. "The Community" is not a single entity. It is many people with lots of different ideas and tastes.You might want to read my previous post again.
I know you aren't the scripter, but would you even read those topics, and at least present them to your team mates, well since your active?
Honestly, if I would be the developer I would shut the server long time ago.Really? Server doesn't go down every hour, that's true. But now we got constant lags and ping between 500 and 5000. Before the update you could play with a good ping, now it's impossible.
Some of you are really unbelievable. "Why this was changed and why that? Why not that?"
The most important thing from the whole changelog was just overlooked by you:
Fixed server crashes
This is the only thing that matters and that was really annoying. Everything else is just bonus, but you seem to dont understand it.
Just play the game, have fun and stop whining about changes you dont like, because you are only testers and you are playing it for free.
Honestly, if I would be the developer I would shut the server long time ago.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc9wIzi96_E
Some of you are really unbelievable. "Why this was changed and why that? Why not that?"
The most important thing from the whole changelog was just overlooked by you:
Fixed server crashes
This is the only thing that matters and that was really annoying. Everything else is just bonus, but you seem to dont understand it.
Just play the game, have fun and stop whining about changes you dont like, because you are only testers and you are playing it for free.
Server doesn't go down every hour, that's true. But now we got constant lags and ping between 500 and 5000. Before the update you could play with a good ping, now it's impossible.There's just no pleasing you, WHINERS! I know your kind all too well! I bet if they made the lag go away and the crashes come back, you'd whine about the crashes again!
Video with happy musicThanks, that cheered me up. I feel much better now :D
in the past there were the RPérs and PVPérs who do discussion.Very well said.
now its the people who are simple thankful that the server exist and there is a fallout online at all,
against the people who are complaining about the dev´s and gamemechanics on the other side.
oh wait.. thats still the same groups! *trollface*
There's just no pleasing you, WHINERS! I know your kind all too well! I bet if they made the lag go away and the crashes come back, you'd whine about the crashes again!How nice, you call me whiner though I wasn't complaining. I just disagreed with Mike and his statement that "everything is ok now". Whining would look like "bring crashes back nao!", of course I'm glad there was the update with all good and bad things it has brought. I dare to say that I'm one of a few people who still support devs in their work. The thing is they don't probably play their own game so someone has to give them a feedback. I doubt they realize how terribly underpowered snipers are or how this server is laggy. Please don't confuse discussion with whining.
How nice, you call me whiner though I wasn't complaining. I just disagreed with Mike and his statement that "everything is ok now". Whining would look like "bring crashes back nao!", of course I'm glad there was the update with all good and bad things it has brought. I dare to say that I'm one of a few people who still support devs in their work. The thing is they don't probably play their own game so someone has to give them a feedback. I doubt they realize how terribly underpowered snipers are or how this server is laggy. Please don't confuse discussion with whining.There will never be balance in the game, because there is no focus for such a thing. To balance game, you need much more players and many more PvP testing (look at SCII for example and their beta testing to make the game balanced).
There will never be balance in the game
To balance game, you need much more players and many more PvP testing
Some sort of balance exists in every game, a thing called total balance cannot be achieved, you can improve upon and that's it. The only question is how " wide " the balance is, if it revolves around one ingame weapon, i would hardly call that balance at all, close to non-existant.
Uhm, no. Need just good decision making from developers. There are plenty enough of PvP'ers that can tell what's wrong, just need to convince developers to do certain things when they do something, some are too obvious sometimes, and i'm just surprised from what lexx said that there are problems to agree on something inside the community, well that's not true. Yes, i'm gonna say it again, majority is the answer, can't satisfy everyone. Then at least the larger part, everyone else will just adapt, as always. It's just simple as that.
If you play mostly with sniper (RLer, burster, sneaker...), you will try to suggest anything, that would make your play more "balanced". But the problem is that you can play with whatever you play and not make the most of the abilities of your character, so it seems like there is some "unbalance" in being a sniper (RLer, whatever). StarCraft 2 is very good example. You cant play only with one type of units, because there is easy counter unit on the other side (for every unit) that would crush you easily. The same applies to this game. You cannot have balanced characters (one type of unit), because thats just not PvP. There should be counter for every perk in the game and for the each possible build in the game, but the problem is that there is no such a thing for some perks (or builds).Snipers are a very good example. and please, dont call rocket launchers snipers.
anyone knows, what happen with the laser crits??now, my crits do 30 50 of damage when i do a crit, and bypass of 60... the damage was nerfed?look at helment crit mods now. all sniper builds are even more useless then before.
yeah i know, but the helmet crit mod affect only th chance of crit or not?the new update made helmets crit power mod and crit chance mod both better. so thats why snipers are doing shiity. aim for the groin for now. head and eye shots are useless.
anyone knows, what happen with the laser crits??now, my crits do 30 50 of damage when i do a crit, and bypass of 60... the damage was nerfed?Answer:
...Imho now all other pvp builds than big gunners are useless, snipers can be only used to cripple/KO your enemy but they cannot kill anyone. If you need damage (and be sure you do) go for bg. Sad but true.
- Helmet Anti Crit Modifiers doubled.
...
- Adjusted critical hit tables.
Answer:Imho now all other pvp builds than big gunners are useless, snipers can be only used to cripple/KO your enemy but they cannot kill anyone. If you need damage (and be sure you do) go for bg. Sad but true.
Answer:Imho now all other pvp builds than big gunners are useless, snipers can be only used to cripple/KO your enemy but they cannot kill anyone. If you need damage (and be sure you do) go for bg. Sad but true.
anyone knows, what happen with the laser crits??now, my crits do 30 50 of damage when i do a crit, and bypass of 60... the damage was nerfed?
Anyway, in building the next bit of the spreadsheet, to test bursts and their criticals, I learnt that I had applied the critical damage modifier in error (its applied before DT, not after). So slight amendments to the single shot damages:
TC windows is win, but normal TC with timer is not that bad too, to be honest.
TC windows mean 2 superswarms wars like it was 2 years ago(NA vs DA) and it was really bad.
TC windows mean 2 superswarms wars like it was 2 years ago(NA vs DA) and it was really bad.