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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Lexx on March 06, 2010, 12:17:53 pm
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(or: how we learned to not be that flat anymore.)
A long time has passed since we released our last developer video and really, it was about time this changed. The new developers video features a topic that we have been working on for some months and we are proud to finally have it in a shape to present it to the public: 3D models.
We decided to move the FOnline engine from a pure 2d to a 2.5d engine, due to the fact that sprite editing is a long and tiresome job. With every change on the player characters, it is nesaccary to edit more than 10.000 single images, even if it's something simple like a different hair color or a new armor type. The use of 3D models helps us in developing more and diversified content in a shorter timer span and still keep the look and feel of the original games.
After the release of the first 3d model converter for the Van Buren models (Van Buren - the code name of the cancled Fallout 3 by Interplay, for the ones who don't know it), we thought it was a great idea to reuse the material we could get out of the tech demo that has been released in 2007. Even if not complete, the build featured character models with already more than 90 animations and a lot customisations for body type or hair and beard styles.
In the third developers video, Anton "Cvet" Tsvetinskiy, FOnline main programmer, is talking about the details of how the new 3d critters are working and will work in the future of FOnline: 2238. Check it out:
Videos & Audio on ModDB (http://www.moddb.com/games/fonline-2238/videos/fonline-2238-developers-video-22) or YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0NtCHSjNoc).
The first update-wave will introduce 3d models for the animal creatures, such as models for the rats, ants, venus mantrap, thorn slinger, desert stalker or the lovely rad toads. Also a big content update is going to hit the server, which includes new game features and quests for both, PvP and PvE-friends.
In combination with this, the server has to undergo a full wipe. This will happen in approx one or two weeks at most, when the update will be available on the public server.
As an appendix, beside the video, here are some actual ingame screenshots:
Image 1 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-1.png), Image 2 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-2.png),
Image 3 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-3.png), Image 4 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-4.png),
Image 5 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-5.png), Image 6 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-6.png),
Image 7 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-7.png), Image 8 (http://media.moddb.com/images/games/1/13/12174/2238-3d-8.png)
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Maybe the best and biggest news since the first FOnline engine was released. Awesome.
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Ace dude, I love it. Hope to see this implemented for everyone ASAP.
BTW. I would like to see more blood there in scene where 3 paladins kill those creatures ... they should rip them into pieces.
Best regards.
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As I said on the NMA forum, I love it and I can't wait for it. ;D
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BTW. I would like to see more blood there in scene where 3 paladins kill those creatures ... they should rip them into pieces.
Gore animations and particle effects are still on the to do list. Right now, there is no blood or splatter visible on the 3d models.
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Just wow!
Great work! Will the server crashes be fixed aswell when the wipe happens?
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(...) Will the server crashes be fixed aswell when the wipe happens?
I will quote Ghosthack here and i hope he don't slap me for that:
We hope that crashes are gone after wipe. If not, we'll hunt it until it is.
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Stupid question:
Will all NPC's get the new models or just a few? (like BoS-Soldiers.)
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Really nice, animations looks really smooth with 3d models. Also like your armor and helmet idea ;)
Cant wait to see more updates about it.
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AWESOME !!!
you devs of FOnline 2238 told us few weeks ago that you were working on big new features. Were you talking about that or will you add something new on your side ?
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AWESOME !!!
you devs of FOnline 2238 told us few weeks ago that you were working on big new features. Were you talking about that or will you add something new on your side ?
It's the 3d and some other new content, which will be addressed to later.
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nice nice nice! Awesome job, however- wipe "and no refunds" i guess? :P this is no trouble...
I really like the Rad Toads- hilarious!
keep up the good work!
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Very good, however, these models look a bit strange. This event certainly try but well, it will be possible to create an interesting character. There will be no problems with doing new characters and editing 10,000 sprites ;). The only pity is that it is in Van Buren. Here, too, are interesting models http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=670.15
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I hope you do a "sit" animation, the one most important animation that doesnt exist in current fonline :(
Just a question, will there be only standing in fonline or will you add crouching/lying down for extra aim, or is that too much work :P
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I understand that players will only models in 3D? the rest should be no changes to save the climate F1 & F2:)
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OMG!!! HELL YEAH!!
Oh guys, it's awesome, great job!
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I understand that players will only models in 3D? the rest should be no changes to save the climate F1 & F2:)
Yeah, that's only bad thing... Also it changes some rules, now "Awarness" perk need only for HP, you can see weapon yourself. Also beard.. mustache.. I don't think anyone can see your face, 'cause all faces are just some pixels.
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Yeah, that's only bad thing... Also it changes some rules, now "Awarness" perk need only for HP, you can see weapon yourself. Also beard.. mustache.. I don't think anyone can see your face, 'cause all faces are just some pixels.
Still being able to see hp is really really really important
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I think you should change all npc models to 3d too. Those models just don't blend into the world too well imo :-\
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I think you should change all npc models to 3d too. Those models just don't blend into the world too well imo :-\
I think the same way. Hald 3d, half 2d looks very weird.
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I think the same way. Hald 3d, half 2d looks very weird.
Omg, of couse, they will. And I think they will use same models as players, wearing different clothes.
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Yeah, that's only bad thing... Also it changes some rules, now "Awarness" perk need only for HP, you can see weapon yourself. Also beard.. mustache.. I don't think anyone can see your face, 'cause all faces are just some pixels.
It will give a option to see other players in detail.
Awareness will still have it's use, even if you can see more details now.
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Yeah, that's only bad thing... Also it changes some rules, now "Awarness" perk need only for HP, you can see weapon yourself. Also beard.. mustache.. I don't think anyone can see your face, 'cause all faces are just some pixels.
able to see how many bullets are in the gun is still good, or else I can just walk around with a minigun and no one will dare shoot me
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Wuhuhuuu! Not only alot new features, but also 3d models and A WIPE? WHAT COULD I WISH MORE? I LOVE YOU GUYS!
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So you will introduce 3d models for some animals, then wipe.
Players will still remain 2d at the begining ?
You will wipe again introducing 3d models for the players then ?
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SO MUCH WIN! :)
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hell yeah, great job
looks awesome
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Great! But what about this cow with one head in video oO
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Hm, I don't really like the look and appearance of the new models, but as long as it's going to be easier to create new content with this I'm fine with it. ;)
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Looks great. Implementation of 3d models is very good action. More armor slots, more content, full wipe. Damn, can't wait to see it :)
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HOLY CRAP, VAN BUREN ONLINE!
Awesome!
Sad to know however, that sprites die out. Will at least the extern rendered sceneries remain?
And will there be a option to add new content without wiping the server?
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I like it.
I do remember, however, that that the female animations were done on the male skeleton, which is why they look kind of 'off'. Is that still the case, or have they been tweaked a bit?
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I just tought, what about animations like burning from flamer, turning into meat from rocket, flying away from super sledge? Will that be in?
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please learn to read
Gore animations and particle effects are still on the to do list. Right now, there is no blood or splatter visible on the 3d models.
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Really nice job so far :)...
Is it necessary to wipe the server later again to implement new 3D Models, Gore etc. or can u implement them via normal updates after the wipe which will come now?
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say i wonder... would it be possible for one to stay with 2d animations ? like his character npc characters that were covered till now, and possibly also other PC character to use old frames rather then new 3d?
after all i dont realy care if someone else is bold or not so we could just ignore the settings other have and just display them with standard animations.
only the possibly new added critters would need to be 3d ...
( i think it should be quite doable as animations are client side )
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I'm also a bit sad about the oldstyle sprites... maybe but I think somebody will do oldschool looking models in some time. Generally 2.5d is cool, just don't change brahmins into cows, if there is no two-headed model lets stay with the sprite.
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Really nice job so far :)...
Is it necessary to wipe the server later again to implement new 3D Models, Gore etc. or can u implement them via normal updates after the wipe which will come now?
The wipe is independant of the 3D stuff, so adding extra stuff doesn't need a wipe.
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The wipe is independant of the 3D stuff, so adding extra stuff doesn't need a wipe.
But I guess a wipe doesnt really hurt, get rid of old characters that havn't been deleted and other shit ;)
Also its not that hard that hard to restart, if you play aloooot you can be lvl21 in a week.
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wipe is even greater thing that 3d itself ! many would agree to this.
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Are there plans for duck/crawl animations as they were in FT? Also is it possible to add "ladder effect" into FO now aka climbing the buildings roof? Or is it going to be good old "change of floor=loading"?
Anyway its fantastic news, can't wait to see it in action.
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Great thing ;) I didn't even realised it will look that good. Of course it's not like ol' good 2d - but it opens gate to much more variety(And will be great for RP'ers, I think ;])
What about TLA? It's going to stay 2d way? (People could have some alternative if they really hate new 3d thingie)
Anyway - Great Job! :)
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Oh, I almost forgot - What about directions for modellers?
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Van Buren Style ! i love it !
;D :)
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one more thing, will bonus rate of fire be fixed when the next wipe happens? one might hope so :D
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didn't you read the forum? Brof will be fixed on 29 febuary :P i hope it will not be fixed- this game should be less about shooting than it is- but this is as we say in Poland "the dream of decapitated head"
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one more thing, will bonus rate of fire be fixed when the next wipe happens? one might hope so :D
Yes, it's fixed now (after wipe).
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GREAT WORK! Its like from my dreams about Van Buren. BUT give back skin of brahmin in stead of classic cow or i will come in Russia to make suicide attack on server! Its breaking my heart to see normal domestic cow in stead of brahmin :-\
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GREAT WORK! Its like from my dreams about Van Buren. BUT give back skin of brahmin in stead of classic cow or i will come in Russia to make suicide attack on server! Its breaking my heart to see normal domestic cow in stead of brahmin :-\
Good, that none from us nor the server is located in russia.
The cow is not going to replace the brahmin.
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what about caves? are those fixed in update?
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the wiki will need a lot of updating after the wipe :D (regarding new creatures, guns, new or fixed perks) :D happy gaming cant wait for wipe
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simply amazing
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i have to tell its absolutely amazing! i just cant wait to see and play it ingame...
theres one thing anyway: from 6:00 in the video, there isnt blood when they kill the monsterz... i hope there will be some :))
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Of course, my dear friend. ;D
Gore animations and particle effects are still on the to do list. Right now, there is no blood or splatter visible on the 3d models.
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:o I hope they make an animation just for groinshots (killshots when hit in the groin)
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I just jizzed my pants, this is amazing. Also will this increase the requirements for the game? I use a laptop with an 8mb video card.
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Three whole dimensions eh? As long as it remains fallout, I'm for it. Do you think we could have two-headed bears and other mutated fauna as reported elsewhere in fallout canon? The design docs were quite expansive, detailing certain mole creatures and snakes also affected by radiation. Anyway, 3D opens up all kinds of possibilities for developing further the fallout universe.
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Will you be able to introduce fan-created 3d art into the game without wiping it every time?
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Yup. Hopefully this happens often.
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It look like Fallout Tactics in F2..
I dont like it :)
I like old Game :)
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That's funny how such detail can stun people :)
Don't worry, your beloved pets will remain beautiful and nice to decapitate.
As lots of us, reading these news, I can only say : keep up the good work !
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wipe is even greater thing that 3d itself ! many would agree to this.
i agree :))
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wow guys, just wow, this is huge, it is even bigger than huge, congratz on the 3d leap ;)
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So no one know if the 3d will be applied also to npc?
It's said already many times, all critters will become 3d.
We have all armors that have been in the Van Buren techdemo. It isn't much, just tibbets prison suit, vault suit, leather jacket and power armor.
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We have all armors that have been in the Van Buren techdemo. It isn't much, just tibbets prison suit, vault suit, leather jacket and power armor.
Is it possible to have "pattern"/"sample" (sorry for poor english, this words are google translation) of body models to try to help with it? I mean... any co-ordinates how it must look.
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Can I please get the new min requirements for fonline? I might have to upgrade my laptop.
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Is it possible to have "pattern"/"sample" (sorry for poor english, this words are google translation) of body models to try to help with it? I mean... any co-ordinates how it must look.
We will release samples as soon as we can. Right now, we are still working on the files.
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Great. It would be also cool if you'll inform the community about the tools/standards which should be used to create models/textures/animations and some place(maybe forum thread or something) to dump 'em. I'm looking forward to learn more modelling and contribute with my work.
Ah, you guys are doing awesome job! Keep it up!
*Drunk Cheetah pawstep.*
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It's just amazing :)
Great job, I'm waiting to see 3D models in-game :D
Keep up the good work!
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sweet i cant wait to play it ;D continue good work ;D
but i must ask you Lexx:
Can I please get the new min requirements for fonline?
??
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sweet i cant wait to play it ;D continue good work ;D
but i must ask you Lexx: ??
I don't know how much it changed. All I can say is that you can still play the game with a very old system. Just the graphic card can become a problem and some shaders will not be visible for you. This can have an effect on the critter outlines, etc.
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if some games min requirements are lower than wow then it worked me too fine :P
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Hmm, I like it. Is a very good work.
But I should admit that I like more the 2d graphics. Dunno, with 3d make remember Ultima Online. x)
For other side is good, coz will atract much more people.
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Hmm, I like it. Is a very good work.
But I should admit that I like more the 2d graphics. Dunno, with 3d make remember Ultima Online. x)
For other side is good, coz will atract much more people.
Yes you are for that thing that game looking much more Ultima Online (and i hate that game)
but luckily weapons and other stuff are moderm.
Edit: Ultima Online mod :P
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Well, on the bright side: the animations will be muuuch smoother :P but i dont dislike the 3d. Well, I dont really like the animals to be honest but I really like the human characters.
Btw, have you made any super mutants in 3d yet?
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Hey i like UO. =P
Will be great if when crippled some leg the char lame <-- srry I google it, don't know if I wrote this right.
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but now talking the FOnline 2238 not UO :P
yeah i like too human character 3d models,but female model need clothes like male model :D
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Yes, macke female model not so nacked. In this game playing kids. :) Really. >:( This is small panties loucking very weird in post-apocaliptic world.
Sorry for my english.
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Oliver, don't be so prude !!! ;D
You know, in the Wasteland, all ladies are so hot... :-*
Seriously, it seems to be a huge change in this Fallout world, I'm looking forward to the new possibilities for the character models.
Nice job, devs, keep it up !!
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Will be great if when crippled some leg the char lame <-- srry I google it, don't know if I wrote this right.
This is already ingame, though it's the same animation for left and right leg.
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I love you all,devs! ;D Cant wait for it! :P
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Wipes are exciting, sure I'm losing a ton of crap but hey, there was nothing to do with it anyways.
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Does 3D models mean, that we will be able to play different races in future?
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I bet that after this wipe you will get next one with update changing 2d PC's into 3d Pc's. Why? Because everyone must select their own appearance, aye? It will be easier to wipe instead of inserting system which will enable to change it. But how long it will take - depends only on Devs and people who will contribute to modelling/animating (On the other hand - they can use placeholders so I might be wrong.)
But If I'm not wrong - It will take "some" time. Modelling supermutants, ghouls, missing/new critters, dead/gore animations, missing armors and weapons (+optionally new ones) is a long task. Everything depends on modellers/animators and their free time. One model&texture for something "simple" will take aprox 1-3hours time so it might be even a few months to finish all the stuff which is REQUIRED. But as I mentioned before - everything depends on Rotators policy. Anyway - It's not hard to guess that more successful modellers/animators we have - much faster "beta" state will end.
Does 3D models mean, that we will be able to play different races in future?
It might happen if other races will be modelled ;) I'm sure that devs&Cvet will have no problems with implementing it. Furthermore - This option might be another feat for this precious engine.
*Cheetah pawstep.*
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Will you turn locations into 3D too? Will you make it Van Buren Online? That would be awesome.
Yes, macke female model not so nacked. In this game playing kids. :) Really. >:( This is small panties loucking very weird in post-apocaliptic world.
Sorry for my english.
I don't know if you noticed that you actually can shoot off someone's kidneys so it's not game for kids after all.
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As far as I know 2,5D means that characters/critters will be in 3d while enviroment will stay in 2d. Something like in Temple of Elemental Evil.
I have no idea how it will look with the engine. Maybe it will enable people to make even full 3d games:)
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This is already ingame, though it's the same animation for left and right leg.
I was talking about the animation. And you?
I mean, if you have a crippled leg, your char will just walk and can't run. When he have both legs crippled then he gives one step by step. But thi is not an animation demostrating that you char is limping.
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I was talking about the 3d models. There you see a player with crippled legs moving like he has crippled legs.
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I was talking about the 3d models. There you see a player with crippled legs moving like he has crippled legs.
Oh ok. x)
The way you said that "is already in game" confused me.. haha
Btw, great job man!! All of you!!
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Yeah I have to say, my expectations for fonline just shot through the roof, this is fantastic. I feel like xmas came early, a (kinda) online van buren.
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Yeah I have to say, my expectations for fonline just shot through the roof, this is fantastic. I feel like xmas came early, a (kinda) online van buren.
christmas came late :/
I just hope they fix the cavebugs :P
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Will you turn locations into 3D too? Will you make it Van Buren Online? That would be awesome.
There are no real benefits in doing this. So it's not needed.
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Had to add my comments ;D
First, thanks a lot devs. You're doing a really good job, some of us forget it too often. This 3D thing is awesome, I can't wait for ! I want it now ! Muahaha !
Plus, I want to say few things. For those who don't like this idea, please think first that will be good for the servor stability, for the content which will be easy (well... easier) to add, and for the freshness of the game in general. I too am a bit sad of saying goodbye to the old-school-sprites-making-the-soul-of-the-game, but improving the game need this.
Second, read firsts posts and think a little bit before asking nonsense or useless questions like "do the NPC will be moved in 3D", "what the fuck is that cow", and so on...
And finally, stop whinig about the wipes. Wipes are Good ! I survived all wipes since August and I'm not dead. More seriously, they means few things : better stability for the server, lot of new features (and this time it's a big one !), new experience of gaming... Don't complain because your poor lvl12 character will be deleted, you will lose your sledge, your knife, and your tent with 2 armors and brahmin shit. And remember, and learn if you didn't know it, that WE ARE PLAYING A BETA. Wipes are necessary !
I've finish, thank you again you devs for making my dream a real thing, and thank you community for making this game a very cool place to live ;)
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There are no real benefits in doing this. So it's not needed.
I'm not sure about it but if the buildings were in 3d wouldn't be able to turn the camera to have differents points of view? And even make taller buildings I guess.
Not a huge benefit given the work it takes but it'd be something..
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I don't like this idea 3d models... Fallout is more atmospheric in classic 2d... It's my opinion... This animation of 3d animals from movie looks like "non-Fallout" this plant looks like from diablo or something;(
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I don't like this idea 3d models... Fallout is more atmospheric in classic 2d... It's my opinion... This animation of 3d animals from movie looks like "non-Fallout" this plant looks like from diablo or something;(
dont play the game, its hard work,its based-on fallout, but its fonline(new game).
thx to dev's
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I don't like this idea 3d models... Fallout is more atmospheric in classic 2d... It's my opinion... This animation of 3d animals from movie looks like "non-Fallout" this plant looks like from diablo or something;(
If the look and feel of the plant would be the biggest concern when it comes to 3D shift, I'd be happy ;)
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IMHO this is by far the biggest change in Fonline ever. Just love the 3d, it kicks ass. Can you give us some more detalils about the other changes coming with the new wipe?
And again the Wasteland will fall into anarchy beacause of the all powerfull wipe. Bands of roaming PKs will kill everyone that they meet. People will stand around NCR doing nothing. A friend shall lose his friends hammer and the sons will not know where are the little thing which their fathers had put on the bedside table last night. No. Wait, this is already happening on a daily basis so... hurray for the wipe.
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Would it be possible to get flattened versions of the 3d models on the wiki so everyone could pitch in in skinning them?
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Would it be possible to get flattened versions of the 3d models on the wiki so everyone could pitch in in skinning them?
Yeah, some UV maps or models would be cool. It's the x. format, right?
Also, "3D" buildings are already in game, the frames art is mostly made of rendered objects and static frames don't need so much resources like in-game renders.
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I will be happy if You Guys tells Us a date of wipe :P.
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I will be happy if You Guys tells Us a date of wipe :P.
Agreed. I Want a Date lol, But on Topic. GREAT WORK DEVS!!
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Yeah I hope too it will be soon !
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OMFG Thank you for all the hard work bring us one of the greatest games ever.
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Hello, my prize still play the older version, when a completely new 3D era? - Otherwise Fonline is very very good, I'm looking forward to great work. ;)
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Man, I wanna see this with bloody mess! I hope it gets all done quickly, because thats something new. NOBODY has ever made 3D models for Fallout 2. You are awesome guys.
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Keep in mind, FOnline is not Fallout 2. We use a completely different engine that just looks and feels like Fallout 1 / 2.
Like written in the newspost, the first wave of 3d models will be some animals, which come with the next wipe. With them, we will test how it runs for everybody and fix bugs, etc. After this and when human characters are ready (more weapon models and armors, etc.), they will be introduced. This is depending on how fast we can recreate the missing content.
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from what i've seen of the community modelling effort it wont take long.
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We are only testplayers now,but someday we are real players :P
and i can say ill be good testplayer :D
Edit: i hope you understand my english...
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We are only testplayers now,but someday we are real players :P
and i can say ill be good testplayer :D
Edit: i hope you understand my english...
You mean you are a beta tester now..
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Keep in mind, FOnline is not Fallout 2. We use a completely different engine that just looks and feels like Fallout 1 / 2.
Yes, but FOnline is based on Fallout 2 engine. Just modified :P
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Yes, but FOnline is based on Fallout 2 engine. Just modified :P
You are wrong, sir. FOnline is independent engine, made from scratch. It only uses mechanics (SPECIAL/turn-based combat etc.) and graphics which were used in fallout 2. Everything else was made from absolutely-nothing.
IS THAT CLEAR SOLDIER?!
*Cheetah pawstep.*
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Gee, this new update looks great. Using the Van Buren player models is an excellent idea. Too bad Van Buren never got too far though :(.
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Like written in the newspost, the first wave of 3d models will be some animals, which come with the next wipe. With them, we will test how it runs for everybody and fix bugs, etc. After this and when human characters are ready (more weapon models and armors, etc.), they will be introduced. This is depending on how fast we can recreate the missing content.
You mean you wipe the server put some 3d animals into the game then you test for bugs.... and some weaks/month later wipe again to put 3d models for players and weapons ?
At the moment i dont want play because i know in 1-2 weeks i begin from 0 after wipe and if the wipe again for new things in a short time i dont play only to see some 3 d cows.... make all in 1 and hope it works.... but please dont wipe the server for every single shit 3d model :(
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So far we wiped only two times... in 8 months. I wouldn't say that this is a bad value.
Also we don't have to wipe the server for every 3d model. From where comes this rumor?
A wipe is needed, if we add 3d models or not, it doesn't matter.
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Today is 7th day after devs made post about 3d and wipe hope in net week wipe will be
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From where comes this rumor?
population's main hobby is to make rumors about how other people (they depend on) will fail / will dissapoint them
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Besides those toads and player models being 3d, is anything else gonna be 3d?
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Besides those toads and player models being 3d, is anything else gonna be 3d?
The world will remain 2D, only creatures (including humans and players) and items (weapons, materials) will be in 3D. I wonder if Computers which can't run 3D stuff well, will there be an option to switch back to 2D?
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most computers (even old) support 3d better than 2d so there is nothing to worry about
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most computers (even old) support 3d better than 2d so there is nothing to worry about
My videocard is 8mb, the most I can play is DOTA so im pretty worried. (I have a netbook)
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My videocard is 8mb, the most I can play is DOTA so im pretty worried. (I have a netbook)
I shouldnt worry too much over the coming requirements.
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NICE! Lets start summon WIPE;D
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I wonder if Computers which can't run 3D stuff well, will there be an option to switch back to 2D?
Nope.
My videocard is 8mb, the most I can play is DOTA so im pretty worried. (I have a netbook)
I don't know exactly what are the differences between client that is used on the server now, and the client which will be used after wipe, but I can say the client you're currently using is capable of 3D too. So if you run this one (i.e. it initializes, no errors on startup), there is high chance you will run it after wipe.
But like I said, the details are important, so it's not certain.
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My videocard is 8mb, the most I can play is DOTA so im pretty worried. (I have a netbook)
DotA can harsh even good pc (I have 300-500 fps in fonline, and sometimes DotA pauses my laptop :D), so if you're able the play that game - it should be ok in here.
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Man, how can you even run DotA with 8mb vcard... I think even mIRC should lag.
Waaaaaay off-topic, but I don't like people spreading misconceptions:
- 400 MHz Pentium II or equivalent
- 128 MB of RAM
- 8 MB 3D video card (TNT, i810, Voodoo 3, Rage 128 equivalent or better) with DirectX® 8.1 support
Except for fancy Vista decorations, 8MB of video ram is enough for everyday computer usage when you don't play games. mIRC won't lag at all, and if it will, then that's because of shitty programming. Displaying text something computers could do just fine over 10 years ago.
Back to topic:
Have you guys (devs) considered adding quality settings to the game? Enabling/disabling lighting. Making two or three sets of models with different polygon counts to choose from?
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Have you guys (devs) considered adding quality settings to the game? Enabling/disabling lighting. Making using two or three sets of models with different polygon counts?
That would be sweet :P I wouldnt mind being able to play with high poly models.
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Wipe will be when wipe will be. Writing in big letters will help nothing.
I mean.. we could wipe tomorrow morning. I have no problem with that. But keep in mind, that we then will have to wipe again just a few days later.
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I can't wait to get started from fresh again. Will there be an updated manual released to cover any big changes? Also i noticed that you are after models for weapons that are not currently in the game, does that mean theres a chance the gauss rifle and pulse rifle may be implemented 'soon'?
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Also i noticed that you are after models for weapons that are not currently in the game, does that mean theres a chance the gauss rifle and pulse rifle may be implemented 'soon'?
I kinda hope not, I can imagine a few guys from DA or NA (what's the difference these days) coming into NCR in (A)PA and with top tier weapons shooting the place up, We already got GMs for that ;)
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Okay, I am going to be serious. I hate the idea. I hated van buren tech and I hate this idea, I play 2238 for the old school feeling.
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and what about new game client? or need only update old?
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Well in order to stay old school we would have to sacrifice game content aka guns, armors, skin models and many other stuff related to this (other playable races maybe) and thats simply too much to ask when you can go 2.5D and have all of this in no time (compared to time it takes to do such stuff in 2D). I'm also little disappointed that we are leaving our 2D chars behind especially when there were some discussions about technical solutions that could speed up development but remain 2D. But in the end I'm pretty exited how it will look and feel like with 3D chars (but I will miss my good old silver PA the most... that new one just don't feel right :/ ).
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I'm also little disappointed that we are leaving our 2D chars behind especially when there were some discussions about technical solutions that could speed up development but remain 2D.
Discussions are always nice, but getting something finally done is much nicer. People like to talk, without much real outcome.
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Will there be new animations, like sitting in front of fire, whittling wood, smoking or cleaning the weapon?
Cause cooldowns must have some atmosphere.
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Discussions are always nice, but getting something finally done is much nicer. People like to talk, without much real outcome.
Which is exactly why you need to be bold sometimes and make choices.
You've made a lot up until now. And while not all of them might have been indeed correct, look at where we are now. The game is much better, much improved and much more fun. Where are all those conspiracists now? Oh i'll tell you, having so much fun with the game they forgot why they didn't want any previous update.
SO FOOKING GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT YOU MUST. THE NEW ANIMATIONS ARE GREAT, THE DETAIL BEING OFFERED IS OUTSTANDING AND THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS MINIMAL. We'll be able to see our weapons, at last, we won't all look the same like bloody Asians and finally, FINALLY, we'll have fluid animations.
I just hope the silly running lag doesn't come again, but i doubt that's got anything to do with the models
The above post is made just so it's made clear that all developers should disregard all and every "LOL THIS IS UNHEARD OF FOR ANY MMO, GAME IS HARD? OLOLOL MAKE IT WOW" or "KEEP IT CLASSIC, UPDATE NOTHING, NOFUNALLOWED.JPG".
Goddamn i do not wish my Fallout Online to end up being boring.
Oh, and do something for the cooldowns, goddamn...
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10 days passed, it coming!
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Will there be new animations, like sitting in front of fire, whittling wood, smoking or cleaning the weapon?
Not in the beginning, but later for sure.
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Okay, I am going to be serious. I hate the idea. I hated van buren tech and I hate this idea, I play 2238 for the old school feeling.
If you want classic Fallout, just go to TLA. There won't be 2,5D.
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Discussions are always nice, but getting something finally done is much nicer. People like to talk, without much real outcome.
Well I mean if there were some expectations then VB 3D models were not amongst them. I think no one saw that coming. But I love community work and when I see weapon models growing in numbers every day then I must admit this could be something epic and unheard of in Fallout modding.
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If you want classic Fallout, just go to TLA. There won't be 2,5D.
Downside is that if you speak english, you get shot.
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I think, they apply these 3D models and make full server wipe on 20 march (saturday)...
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I think, they apply these 3D models and make full server wipe on 20 march (saturday)...
Weekend would be quite fitting.
The sooner one start to level, the better. Can't wait for the Ragnarok party.
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Weekend would be quite fitting.
The sooner one start to level, the better. Can't wait for the Ragnarok party.
I just hope they give us a date/time the server will close, just so we all can go in and waste all ammo/armors/weapons just before the end :D
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in 5th march lexx told us in irc that wipe will be done in one or two weeks, so according to him 19th is the end of second week :D wipe wipe wipe :D
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It could probably be sunday or monday. Depends on how fast we can fix the last problems + test it. Let's hope nothing big will hit in between.
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hooray for devs, dont stop the good work.
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Yay, we will have a wipe soon! YAYYAYAYAYA!!!
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i just realised and thought that people say "3d doesnt fit game" only cause they see first time a fat player in it... lol which is something new for that game, i bet skinny guy will look normal.
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i just realised and thought that people say "3d doesnt fit game" only cause they see first time a fat player in it... lol which is something new for that game, i bet skinny guy will look normal.
Nope, it kills my memories when I was 10 years old child, my brother brought that game from one of his friends, I can remember killing rats with fists and very low hand-to-hand skill, 'cause I didn't want to waste bullets... killing all raiders by starting fight in one room, where they can come one by one, then Fallout 2, when you wasting to much time to kill ALL (yeah need to get max. XP!) ants/scorpions/geckos with your fists, again, with very low unarmed skill. And then kill all slavers in Den with magnum (picked from trader's body in south of town), but before start eye-shoting with magum, you stealing Metzger's shotgun and one slaver's psycho. That was really nice time...
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Nope, it kills my memories when I was 10 years old child, my brother brought that game from one of his friends, I can remember killing rats with fists and very low hand-to-hand skill, 'cause I didn't want to waste bullets... killing all raiders by starting fight in one room, where they can come one by one, then Fallout 2, when you wasting to much time to kill ALL (yeah need to get max. XP!) ants/scorpions/geckos with your fists, again, with very low unarmed skill. And then kill all slavers in Den with magnum (picked from trader's body in south of town), but before start eye-shoting with magum, you stealing Metzger's shotgun and one slaver's psycho. That was really nice time...
You need to realize that Devs are trying to evolve the game. IMO it is a good move I would like to personalize my character's look. It will be nice to see differences beetwen others players. Not just the same bluesuit chars - it's borring.
FO it's not a F1 or F2. Nobody changes your game from childhood, so if You want to - You can always turn them on and memorize.
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I guess you will se 3d models of players and weapons when they will be done and tested. Not faster for sure.
Now saturday will be a merry day in NCR for sure XD
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Remember that after weapons we need to make:
-models + animations for missing critters
-special death animations and missing one for PC's
-models/textures for armors/helmets
-Particle effects (Explosions/flying rockets/plasma or something like that - provided that devs want to change it)
Even if we manage to finish weapons in 2-3 weeks(It is possible with so many helping people :D) - we need to wait for basic armor/player/player head model to start making clothes + critters based on it.
Making animations is only for specialists in this field. I don't know if we have any suitable people. Learning this stuff takes some time so I bet that 3d PC's will see the sunlight in aprox 4-6months ;) And it's very optimistic view!
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Remember that after weapons we need to make:
-models + animations for missing critters
-special death animations and missing one for PC's
-models/textures for armors/helmets
-Particle effects (Explosions/flying rockets/plasma or something like that - provided that devs want to change it)
Even if we manage to finish weapons in 2-3 weeks(It is possible with so many helping people :D) - we need to wait for basic armor/player/player head model to start making clothes + critters based on it.
Making animations is only for specialists in this field. I don't know if we have any suitable people. Learning this stuff takes some time so I bet that 3d PC's will see the sunlight in aprox 4-6months ;) And it's very optimistic view!
yeah well thats assuming some of the models dont get redone and what not. looking at the 3d model progress some models are obviously way better in quality than other ones, granted im not knocking anyones skills because im not contributing but hopefully the bad ones (i think people can tell for themselves) get redone by someone who knows how to skin something and make it look like it isnt a holdover from golden eye on the 64.
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What about animals? are they ready?
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If they do a new vidéo they will lose time for making 3d design so I prefer to not have video :D
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If they do a new vidéo they will lose time for making 3d design so I prefer to not have video :D
5 min or less would do :P just open up the program and spawn some critters - takes like maybe 10 min total maybe. Then upload to youtube takes some time but you dont have to sit and watch it, upload while eating dinner :P, they dont even have to talk in the vid.
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What about the female animations?
The VanBuren female model still has a posture of a bodybuilder.
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Hey Devs guys I have a question. Could tell Us when exactly wipe will be? And when we can start to play as well? It will be the sundey or monday like Lexx said? Or it will be dalayed? I am not angry if anyone of you could think, it's just pure curious.
Totally respect your work guys, greetings.
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Hey Devs guys I have a question. Could tell Us when exactly wipe will be? And when we can start to play as well? It will be the sundey or monday like Lexx said? Or it will be dalayed? I am not angry if anyone of you could think, it's just pure curious.
Totally respect your work guys, greetings.
With this wipe, we will only include the few animal 3d models we have. Nothing more. Player 3d models will be deactivated for this time. We said this in the news and in the third dev video.
It'll be on sunday or monday...
You'll use the same player skin as now.
You'll see only 3D mobs.
Later with a time players/critters/items will be changed into 3D.
Date when everything will be completed: Unknown.
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(these questions are quite related, since if you wont be able to remake look of your character, how you will be able to add player 3d looks without wipe?, so im wondering if we wont have 2 wipes in short time)
It is possible. Anyway, here's your answer:
Remember that after weapons we need to make:
-models + animations for missing critters
-special death animations and missing ones for PC's
-models/textures for armors/helmets
-Particle effects (Explosions/flying rockets/plasma or something like that - provided that devs want to change it)
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What about the female animations?
The VanBuren female model still has a posture of a bodybuilder.
Van buren never had any completed female models from what i saw of the tech demo.
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Van buren never had any completed female models from what i saw of the tech demo.
Except the topless one.
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I just hope that bluesuits will be the default option and not topless people in their underwear...
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Tribals would be best =)
But yes, i sure hope we will see no naked morons running around the wasteland. Trolls got enough food as is. But I'd be calm on that one - devs ain't any Bethe.. I mean, they are no noobs.
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I just hope that bluesuits will be the default option and not topless people in their underwear...
Still, having a topless option is good. Just think of the "RP" possibilities - "heathen, display thy breasts or begone!" in a crafter-meets-a-gang situation would be awesome ;D
On a more serious note - I think it's neither good nor bad. It just makes the "tribal" option a bit more "bare and basic".
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I just hope that bluesuits will be the default option and not topless people in their underwear...
Solar said, that biggest chance is for vault city citizens to be as blue suits others probably wont be blue :>
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Why'd they put a topless model in the first place anyway?
Maybe that was after they realised that VB was about to be canceled, and decided to flip one at The End and the american prudence by modeling some showdown titties.
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Actually I guess some "casual" clothing will be default. Textures can be made to provide some customisation. Bluesuits should not be default by any means, mainly because we are not vault dwellers in 2238, it's just that it has all needed animations.
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Maybe that was after they realised that VB was about to be canceled, and decided to flip one at The End and the american prudence by modeling some showdown titties.
The tech demo is in a very eraly state of development. The game was canned much later.
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Sorry for possible repost, but will it be possible to have crouching and prone stances included some day?
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Most likely not in FOnline: 2238.
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Most likely not in FOnline: 2238.
Thats very sad :(
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no that is very great but still that has nothing to do with 3d anyway.
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It has, because it's hard job to make 2D sprites based on already used in Fallout1/2 and make them crouch than make a bone based 3D animation with current models :P . Anyway it could add more strategy to the battlefield but it means total camping issues with snipers.
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I don't see why they only took half of the fallout tactics rt system, we should have auto attack and different stances.
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I don't see why they only took half of the fallout tactics rt system, we should have auto attack and different stances.
NO! bad boy! do NOT implement autoattack, seriously that would be the worst thing to implement. Hello campers never needing to watch screen ever again.
I don't hold any grudges against prone/crouch, but they need balancing like crouch = better aim but you are walking slow, enemies can get headshots/eyeshots on you easier. Prone = very good aim but you are slow as hell and vournable when standing up //crouching - proning = people can hit you easier, a small penalty for camping yourself but the one proning/crouching can maybe get -1 ap on guns.
BUT I know implementing shit like that would probably give the devs a BUNCH of new problems and it would take lost of time better spent on implementing the basic 3d stuff and then do bugproblems, why add more problems to the ones you already got.
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If you've ever played tactics multiplayer you'd know it works just fine. Considering lag can be anywhere form a 2-5 second delay between the two players it's not like "clicking first" is really a good system.
I must agree on this one. F:Tactics in multiplayer is really fun and it's more unique experience than normal fonline combat. The only flaw of tactics combat system was probably lack of balance in weapons/armor.
I'm sure it is possible to implement these changes into Cvet's work.
BUT... I can't see it happening on 2238. Why? Because we don't have floor levels like in tactics. We don't have crouch/prone mechanics, autoshoot, objects which gives protection only for crouched etc. I bet that it would take about half year more to implement all of these things (Can you imagine it with fallout1&2 enviroment? I can't)
Maybe some people will create another "tactics related" project based on server application after its release.
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To create such cooperative environment needs a lot of work, mapping, texturing, scripting, maybe some day we will see FOnline in another era? Tactic era?
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The wipe will not happen before sunday evening. This also doesn't mean that the wipe will be on sunday evening. What I can say is, that it will not need another week.
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Thanks all devs ill be looking forward
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The wipe will not happen before sunday evening. This also doesn't mean that the wipe will be on sunday evening. What I can say is, that it will not need another week.
Now that is a somewhat straightforward and good answer ;) thank you
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Thanks Lexx. Ill Keep Checking up :D
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The wipe will not happen before sunday evening. This also doesn't mean that the wipe will be on sunday evening. What I can say is, that it will not need another week.
Really count on today evening. But I know that wipe will be, when it will be.
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There will be no wipe today.
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There will be no wipe today.
can we expect it tomorrow ?
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Will there be radioactive or acid fallout after wipe?
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I just quit playing until I officially hear that the server wipe has occurred.
But still, the wait is painful. I feel like I'm waiting in a vault for the bombs to go off.... again. Only, I don't think I'll survive... ;P
-LB-
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I just quit playing until I officially hear that the server wipe has occurred.
But still, the wait is painful. I feel like I'm waiting in a vault for the bombs to go off.... again. Only, I don't think I'll survive... ;P
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Don't worry lass. They will replicate you in a while, so you can make some changes to your D.N.A (Or SPECIAL :P)
You should also keep in mind that world will change a bit after that wipeout. Mutated critters will become more mutated than ever before and rad-toads will swarm capital wasteland, comin' from banks of Mississippi river. Isn't that vision of another apocalypse lovely?
I knew you would like it.
Now get into your quarters and wait for another genocide. Remember to fasten your seatbelt! Have a nice ride, honey.
It's time to push the red button. I love the smell of nuclear devastation in the morning.
End of transmission.
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So now just wait guys and gals. And stop asking "when", please - for sake of rest of my sanity. Real World will not blow into pieces if you will start few hours after wipe ;)
*Cheetah pawstep.*
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Don't worry lass. They will replicate you in a while, so you can make some changes to your D.N.A (Or SPECIAL :P)
You should also keep in mind that world will change a bit after that wipeout. Mutated critters will become more mutated than ever before and rad-toads will swarm capital wasteland, comin' from banks of Mississippi river. Isn't that vision of another apocalypse lovely?
I knew you would like it.
Now get into your quarters and wait for another genocide. Remember to fasten your seatbelt! Have a nice ride, honey.
It's time to push the red button. I love the smell of nuclear devastation in the morning.
End of transmission.
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So now just wait guys and gals. And stop asking "when", please - for sake of rest of my sanity. Real World will not blow into pieces if you will start few hours after wipe ;)
*Cheetah pawstep.*
I bit my tongue long ago, when asking "when", after seeing how many others had voiced this---before the thought was even mature in my mind...
So yes, now, I just wait, hoping the meager artificial sunlamps won't go dark after some explosive earthquake that rocks my only "shelter".
Then again, what if this apocalypse is quiet and stealthy, like some sort of virus that'll WIPE everything anew... ?
Only the elusive Gods know...
(xD)
Thank God I still have my cigarettes... because I'm not going to Hell without my menthols. *dark smile*
-LB-
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is so hard to wait for a wipe, devil take him ...
and what innovations will be added in addition to 3D models? may be new or repaired perks? new an items? new fixes?
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is so hard to wait for a wipe, devil take him ...
and what innovations will be added in addition to 3D models? may be new or repaired perks? new an items? new fixes?
i thing we need to wait for changelog for additional info, neither i'll whine after wipe if there will be no whine threads.... Tradition needs to be made !
After 1st wipe i whined about it
After 2nd wipe some people will whine
and at this 3rd wipe i'll whine if noone will whine about it ;P
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Any news about the date of the wipe and update?
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Well they did say sunday, which was yesterday so probably sometime today.
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Not so Fresh WIPE NEWS :
The wipe will not happen before sunday evening. This also doesn't mean that the wipe will be on sunday evening. What I can say is, that it will not need another week.
sunday wipe was "canceled" , but was said that wipe will be in this week
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well they said sunday/monday, then on sunday they said it wont be on sunday and it will not take another week so expect it today or tomorrow or something like that
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well they said sunday/monday, then on sunday they said it wont be on sunday and it will not take another week so expect it today or tomorrow or something like that
in this week :PP
Let's use our PA's Gauss Rifles to shot ourselves down and transport with our mighty Vertbirds !
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I can just imagine how much piss off the Devs are. But I am just like one of you guys. can stand to start playing for real :D.
If You need to do something, and somebody asks you when it's done.
Let's say you need 2 weeks for this job to be done, You say 1 month.
So They could just say WIPE is on 04.03.2010 at 8AM, and nobody would piss them.
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[One Small Question] Will thing with fast reloging be solved anyhow? Or I will gather resources at xN more speed after wipe? If I only know this thing before... ehh...
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can someone just tell will we have wipe today or can we go to sleep? thanks
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No wipe today. Maybe tomorrow. We are fighting with the last bugs right now, which are too important to not fix them before the wipe.
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No wipe today. Maybe tomorrow. We are fighting with the last bugs right now, which are too important to not fix them before the wipe.
Tomorrow evening?
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No wipe today. Maybe tomorrow. We are fighting with the last bugs right now, which are too important to not fix them before the wipe.
well thanks for fighting and good luck then :>
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Tomorrow evening?
If tomorrow, then not before evening / night, because it is a working day and most of us will not be available half of the day.
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oooh cant wait too see the changelog :D
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This might be longest pre-wipe madness ever. If I remember correctly 1st wipe was kinda quiet since it was not official until last hours. Second was announced but delay just killed server population and I think it ended with just one wipe madness day. And now? Heh 3rd day of pre-wipe madness is about to begin.
Those tents and bases must be empty by now :D.
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Last one wasnt even a full day it was more like a few hours.Like you said,the delay killed the population and think everyone was just happy to be done with it.
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Thanks for the update Lexx. Keep up the good work.
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If tomorrow, then not before evening / night, because it is a working day and most of us will not be available half of the day.
I guess a lot of players would appreciate it as well. I wish I won't miss first hours after wipe just because I was in my job ;)
Second thing - It's kinda funny. I would say that a lot of great work is done when it comes to 3d models just cause some of guys don't play the game right now ;)
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Second thing - It's kinda funny. I would say that a lot of great work is done when it comes to 3d models just cause some of guys don't play the game right now ;)
haha true :P only ~30 weapons left i think and most of the difficult ones are made :)
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No wipe today. Maybe tomorrow. We are fighting with the last bugs right now, which are too important to not fix them before the wipe.
Im really happy about answer like this, not like all time answers in irc: soon. ;)
Continue this good work :)
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I could wait a couple of days if it means a lot of bugs will be fixed. Hopefully not many new ones will be caused by changes.
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I could wait a couple of days if it means a lot of bugs will be fixed. Hopefully not many new ones will be caused by changes.
Im glad someone sees that. Cause whining about tons of bugs with each update and then whining about postponed update is kind of silly ;)
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I could wait a couple of days if it means a lot of bugs will be fixed. Hopefully not many new ones will be caused by changes.
I can wait too, but then developers or gm dont need to say that wipe will be today or tomorrow if they really now need work on that server will run fine after. They just can say wipe will not be in next days or week and then all dont make so big mess and dont ask every minute or hour when will be wipe. ;)
Anyway we all know that some small bugs still will be after wipe, it happens always, but we all just can hope server will run fine after this update :)
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Skejwen go check out new items made in 3d moddeling section, you can update wiki if you have some time :PP
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You should also keep in mind that world will change a bit after that wipeout.
War never changes.
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You guys need to stop fucking whining like little girls. Why don't you go shoot some guns or do some apocalypse training in real life instead of sitting in front of your computer staring at these forums hoping the game will be wiped. The devs can take their sweet little time,they are the ones in charge here not you disrespectful unappreciative little pricks. Are you forgetting they are doing this game for free?
Ok, I'll agree with You, but can't they just make an official statement? If they need one more week so they should write that down, but not saying in a round "today evening" and then "no wipe today". I really respect what are they doing for Us, but it's really annoying too. Giving a hope and then taking it back. Don't You think...hmmm...little prick? :)
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And two: I think we, as players, have the right to bitch and moan. If it weren't for us, they wouldn't even HAVE a Fallout mmo going. What's an online game without a player base?
We could use the engine for a singleplayer game!
(And we will some day)
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Oh, shush. Stop judging people, for one. You're obviously sitting in front of a computer, staring at these forums... except, you're here just to criticize. So in the end, you look more like a prick than anyone else...
And two: I think we, as players, have the right to bitch and moan. If it weren't for us, they wouldn't even HAVE a Fallout mmo going. What's an online game without a player base?
Yeah. Cause it works that way.
Alexander Fleming and others that helped him should praise all the sick people for beeing sick. And all those whose lives were saved by invention of penicillin should probably whine and bitch about this... Cause it didn't cure the cancer as well.
" they wouldn't even HAVE a Fallout mmo going" - Yeah, smartie. They at least would have the game. What would you do with all that people without FOnline?
" I think we, as players, have the right to bitch and moan." - Everyone has a right to bitch and moan - beeing a deuche is mostly a problem of the deuche himself and not the people around, so yeah.
"except, you're here just to criticize. " + " I think we, as players, have the right to bitch and moan."... So he cant criticize you for whining (in this case = criticizing) about the game that doesnt belong to you and for which you didnt pay at all. And why? Cause criticizing is bad... Well... Makes perfect sense...
Kids - grow up. You got used to have it all, parents spoiled you so you don't really see how the things are - we know the drill... But REALLY... Enough...
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in this week.
And from WHO you got information like this?
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From me. :p
We should be ready 'soon'. I don't expect it to take that much more time. Not saying it will happen today... but it's not like it will need a month. Most of us are already done with their assigned tasks.
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The changelog isn't bugged, it's not a wipe. Can we see changelog ?!
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Wipe today? You said that after a 1-2 weeks. Already 2.5 weeks. When?
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When will wipe? It was written, that on Sunday or Monday. Today we have on Wednesday. Please Try to do a fast wipe.
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At least all the crying out is indicating the beta's so-far success.
They said the evening of the 24th at the latest, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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When will wipe? It was written, that on Sunday or Monday. Today we have on Wednesday. Please Try to do a fast wipe.
Well. The wipe itself needs like 10 minutes. But we don't want to annoy the server with a buggy update.
Since I don't think the whole plotline and writing was ever finished
We know very much about the story and what was (would have been) possible in the game.
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Wipe comes, if all bugs are exterminated.
(http://madkevin.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/starshiptroopers_l.jpg)
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He meant that once they were ready it would only take 10 minutes to wipe the server.
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Wipe comes, if all bugs are exterminated.
And what about fast relog? It's kinda bug too, and it'll make me gather ore/minerals at xN speed faster, that's not good! Of couse I'll use it, because why do I need to wait 6 minutes, when I can fast-relog for other alt who standing near rocks, and then gather again and again.
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Funny thing to me is - at the start of obt3, everyone (or atleast most of the players) complained about wipes. Now many players are going insane, they want it so badly after all. Why? Are you guys so bored? Why is it so important to have WIPE NOW!!11 ?
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Funny thing to me is - at the start of obt3, everyone (or atleast most of the players) complained about wipes. Now many players are going insane, they want it so badly after all. Why? Are you guys so bored? Why is it so important to have WIPE NOW!!11 ?
1. yes we are super bored, new content please.
2. We want 3d dammnit! >_<
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And you think 3d rats, sporeplants etc. and a few new quests will end the boredom? :P
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Funny thing to me is - at the start of obt3, everyone (or atleast most of the players) complained about wipes. Now many players are going insane, they want it so badly after all. Why? Are you guys so bored? Why is it so important to have WIPE NOW!!11 ?
Tell me why is the reason to play example for me if I start 2 weeks before wipe announcment and I don't have a 21lvl char in case to have some fun? Why I need to play, gather material, crafting stuff and doing pve, if I know that everything I do it's going to disappear. It's waste of time.
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And you think 3d rats, sporeplants etc. and a few new quests will end the boredom? :P
No but customizing player characters and then killing said 3d critters might. I'm mostly excited for the ability to add content like new weapons and gameplay mechanics because so far it's pretty stagnant.
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Tell me why is the reason to play example for me if I start 2 weeks before wipe announcment and I don't have a 21lvl char in case to have some fun? Why I need to play, gather material, crafting stuff and doing pve, if I know that everything I do it's going to disappear. It's waste of time.
It depends on what you expect from the game. I don't play the game to reach the level cap, or to stockpile thousands of items in my tent. I just like to roam around, meet other players etc. You could still enjoy the game, even when a wipe is coming.
No but customizing player characters and then killing said 3d critters might. I'm mostly excited for the ability to add content like new weapons and gameplay mechanics because so far it's pretty stagnant.
Dude, this player customizing won't be integrated after this wipe, just the 3d enemies.
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I think everyone wants wipe to have a reason plaing (gaining materials experience etc) becouse now when we know there will be wipe it's all useless in future it's probably sort more of achievment system than just fun and roleplay.
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Topic cleaned a bit. Please do not post here if you don't have anything to say ;p
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one simple, everyday question:
Is there any chance that wipe will be today?
i know its rubbish in this topic. but try to understand us: we can check forum and serv status until 23:59
or ask u one annoying question :)
peace
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one simple, everyday question:
Is there any chance that wipe will be today?
i know its rubbish in this topic. but try to understand us: we can check forum and serv status until 23:59
or ask u one annoying question :)
peace
wipe will be at Saturday or Sunday - now bugger off
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Can we get an email notify when the wipe occurs?
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Can we get an email notify when the wipe occurs?
no you cant
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Changelog preview:
FEATURE PREVIEW:
- Slaves can be traded between players.
- Holodisks can now be used to read and store data.
- Doors can be smashed by producing an explosion.
- Various new quests for PvE and PvP have been added, also some random fetcher quests.
- Also, various treasures are now hidden in the game world.
- New faction bases added.
- Green contours for followers.
- Some new locations, ready to explore. :)
CHANGE PREVIEW:
- Sneaking has been reworked.
- Flagging reworked.
- Critical tables reworked.
- Timeouts reworked.
- Several improvements to the server performance and stability.
More to follow later.
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Will Holodisks be a rare item or can you buy them at several salesman?
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Wow, cant wait for infos bout new crit tables
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ommagad ommagad ommagad ommagad ommagad ommagad ommagad
oooh i wanna play (after wipe)
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Makes me wonder, what KIND of data would you need to store?
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It's up to your imagination.
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this is incredibly exciting news, those features could be greatly enhance game play experiences. Can not wait to play.
kudos to all you developers, thank you, thank you :-*
Edit: BRoF should work according to earlier information, will Bonus HtH Attach work?
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Tradable slaves? wohoo!
Edit: Is there a global follower limit coming in? I've heard people talk about that.
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Changelog preview:
- Holodisks can now be used to read and store data.
- New faction bases added.
- Some new locations, ready to explore. :)
- Sneaking has been reworked.
- Critical tables reworked.
- Timeouts reworked.
- Several improvements to the server performance and stability.
You guys are AWESOME! :o :o :o
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- Several improvements to the server performance and stability.
Maybe one of the most important changes within the other good stuff ;)...
Also, various treasures are now hidden in the game world.
I want my holy grenade :D...
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Changelog preview:
FEATURE PREVIEW:
- Slaves can be traded between players.
- Holodisks can now be used to read and store data.
- Doors can be smashed by producing an explosion.
- Various new quests for PvE and PvP have been added, also some random fetcher quests.
- Also, various treasures are now hidden in the game world.
- New faction bases added.
- Green contours for followers.
- Some new locations, ready to explore. :)
CHANGE PREVIEW:
- Sneaking has been reworked.
- Flagging reworked.
- Critical tables reworked.
- Timeouts reworked.
- Several improvements to the server performance and stability.
More to follow later.
AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME!!! This would make FOnline a totaly new game... well not really, just cooler for sure :)
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Makes me wonder, what KIND of data would you need to store?
"Anyone who takes my Jet, dies!"
"Dude, I've left alloys and metal parts in my room, can you make me some gun?"
"Dear diary! Today I killed ten pathetic noobs. They are so like lawl, when they run with their stupid shovel. I'm so cool and mighty, managed to kill them all with my Vindicator <3"
It can be used for some roleplay purpouses as well.
Anyways - the changelog (preview) looks great. Grats!
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OMAGAD ! I love you devs ! Thx for this preview Lexx, my curiosity and my impatience are now at their worst !
People, stop asking again and again the same questions, you wanted a preview of the changelog, and now that there's one you already want MORE ? Well... I want more too but... just enjoy these news and thanks the dev team for their hard work ;)
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Wipe comes, if all bugs are exterminated.
(http://madkevin.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/starshiptroopers_l.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/Bleachomoan/STT.gif) (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/Bleachomoan/?action=view¤t=STT.gif)
Damn Bugs ! Kill whole fun !
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All looks great ;), however:
- Sneaking has been reworked.
- Critical tables reworked.
When a "real" changelog gets released I dare to ask you for some more detailed info about these two (exact formulas would be welcome :P).
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Can we get an email notify when the wipe occurs?
no you cant
Well how about a postcard then?
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Make up your minds.
Wipe, or not? Jesus Christ.
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Damn Bugs ! Kill whole fun !
Your damned video killing my traffic, make a link to it, please. ;p
Or else I need to stop page each time I watching this thread...
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Understood! Everything except of this:
- Flagging reworked.
What is flagging ? Someone explain.
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Understood! Everything except of this:What is flagging ? Someone explain.
think it is the tag system - Blocker, dangerous, thief
correct me if im wrong :P
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i would bet its tagging people :D
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Flagging = (dangerous), (thief), (blocking) etc flags. You're flagged in guarded cities for being and arse ;)
It's not the same thing as tagging.
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kthx :>
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I feel like all we can do to help, as a userbase, is contribute to the psychological well-being of the developers, so they manage to finish their tasks without any problems, while still feeling good about the whole project and themselves.
So my contribution to motivate them is a picture of some Russian soldiers practicing some arcane sport that was probably never meant to be seen by outsiders. I honestly don't have the slightest hint of what they're doing.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t230/tofonikoagouri/russiaguitarsport.jpg?t=1269472738) (http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t230/tofonikoagouri/russiaguitarsport.jpg?t=1269472738)
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I wonder if they know what they're doing.
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They are playing soccer, with fender stratocasters around their neck, in a winter landscape, in camoflage outfits.
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Cause soldier cannot only shoot guns. The real soldier has to do something when he wins the war.
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"Anyone who takes my Jet, dies!"
"Dude, I've left alloys and metal parts in my room, can you make me some gun?"
"Dear diary! Today I killed ten pathetic noobs. They are so like lawl, when they run with their stupid shovel. I'm so cool and mighty, managed to kill them all with my Vindicator <3"
It can be used for some roleplay purpouses as well.
Anyways - the changelog (preview) looks great. Grats!
The Vindicator one made me laugh.
Also, people should leave mysterious notes in abandoned places or places that are hard to get to. Creepy notes.
Like this one that I shrunk to save space:
May 9, 1988
Played poker tonight with Scott and Alias from Security, and Steve from Research. Steve was the big winner, but I think he was cheating. That scumbag.
May 10, 1998
One of the higher-ups assigned me to take care of a new creature. It looks like a skinned gorilla to me. I was instructed to feed it live animals.
When I threw in a pig, the creature seemed to play with it – tearing off the pig’s legs and pulling out the guts before it actually started eating.
May 11, 1998
At around 5 A.M., Scott woke me up. Scared the shit out of me, too. He was wearing a protective suit. He handed me another one and told me to put it on. Said there’d been an accident in the basement lab. I just knew something like this would happen. Those bastards in Research never sleep, not even on holidays, so it was only a matter of time before one of them slipped up.
May 12, 1998
I’ve been wearing this damn space suit since yesterday. My skin’s getting grimy and feels itchy all over. The goddamn dogs have been looking at me funny, so I decided not to feed them today. Screw ‘em.
May 13, 1998
Went to the Infirmary because my back is all swollen and feels itchy. They put a big bandage on it and told me I didn’t need to wear the suit anymore. All I wanna do is sleep.
May 14, 1998
Found a big blister on my foot this morning. I ended up dragging my foot all the way to the dogs’ pen. They were quiet all day, which is weird. Then I realized some of them had escaped. Maybe this is their way of getting back at me for not feeding them the last three days. If anybody finds out, I’ll have my head handed to me.
May 16, 1998
A rumour is going around that a researcher who tried to escape the estate last night was shot. My entire body feels hot and itchy and I’m sweating all the time now. I scratched the swelling on my arm and a piece of rotten flesh just dropped off. What the hell’s happening to me?
May 19, 1998
Fever gone but itchy. Today hungry and eat doggie food.
May 21, 1998
Itchy itchy Scott came ugly face so killed him. Tasty.
4 / /
Itchy. Tasty.
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I already can see places flooded with out of place-messages like "lol u noobz this is mine!!111" etc.
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im all for creppy notes, or just somehow sneaking into an enemy base, just leaving a note and leaving. ooOOOohhh.
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haha, the new tent robbing. After you'v killed the owner and robbed the place leave a sweet nice little note for him.
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I hope it will be able to read them on the hand, not downloading it to the pipboy/or a delete-message function in the pipboy.
Else it would soon turn out to a spamfest. :-\
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These notes should be:
1. One person picks it up, it is gone. They shouldn't be able to be stored because that would probably just cause lag? Screenshot it if you want to keep it. They can read it once and that is it.
2. They shouldn't be that cheap so that there isn't a lot of spam.
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Smalltext.
That's from Resident Evil, huh? Always wondered how the guy was still able to write.
Anyway, special thanks for the holodiscs, Lexx.
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Also, people should leave mysterious notes in abandoned places or places that are hard to get to. Creepy notes.
Like this one that I shrunk to save space:
May 9, 1988
Played poker tonight with Scott and Alias from Security, and Steve from Research. Steve was the big winner, but I think he was cheating. That scumbag.
May 10, 1998
One of the higher-ups assigned me to take care of a new creature. It looks like a skinned gorilla to me. I was instructed to feed it live animals.
When I threw in a pig, the creature seemed to play with it – tearing off the pig’s legs and pulling out the guts before it actually started eating.
May 11, 1998
At around 5 A.M., Scott woke me up. Scared the shit out of me, too. He was wearing a protective suit. He handed me another one and told me to put it on. Said there’d been an accident in the basement lab. I just knew something like this would happen. Those bastards in Research never sleep, not even on holidays, so it was only a matter of time before one of them slipped up.
May 12, 1998
I’ve been wearing this damn space suit since yesterday. My skin’s getting grimy and feels itchy all over. The goddamn dogs have been looking at me funny, so I decided not to feed them today. Screw ‘em.
May 13, 1998
Went to the Infirmary because my back is all swollen and feels itchy. They put a big bandage on it and told me I didn’t need to wear the suit anymore. All I wanna do is sleep.
May 14, 1998
Found a big blister on my foot this morning. I ended up dragging my foot all the way to the dogs’ pen. They were quiet all day, which is weird. Then I realized some of them had escaped. Maybe this is their way of getting back at me for not feeding them the last three days. If anybody finds out, I’ll have my head handed to me.
May 16, 1998
A rumour is going around that a researcher who tried to escape the estate last night was shot. My entire body feels hot and itchy and I’m sweating all the time now. I scratched the swelling on my arm and a piece of rotten flesh just dropped off. What the hell’s happening to me?
May 19, 1998
Fever gone but itchy. Today hungry and eat doggie food.
May 21, 1998
Itchy itchy Scott came ugly face so killed him. Tasty.
4 / /
Itchy. Tasty.
Is that you, Jill? Where is Wesker? ;D
Anyway, I love this idea. It's going to make the gameworld feel so much more alive. If only there were mines included too... it could really put some meaning behind the words!
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so what happened now im not seeing any npc's or 3dmodels in game
all over radiation
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so what happened now im not seeing any npc's or 3dmodels in game
all over radiation
Maybe this will later with update after wipe ;D
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Hell, the possibility of making your own holodisks is the shit. It opens up a whole new level for RP and player given quest, like someone gives you a holo and tels you to bring it to VC for a reward. Nice job.
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These notes should be:
1. One person picks it up, it is gone. They shouldn't be able to be stored because that would probably just cause lag? Screenshot it if you want to keep it. They can read it once and that is it.
2. They shouldn't be that cheap so that there isn't a lot of spam.
Emperor's teeth, man, it's bloody TEXT. You can store all the messages the players are gonna type in 10 years in a couple of Megabytes of disc-space, serverside.
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Is that you, Jill? Where is Wesker? ;D
Anyway, I love this idea. It's going to make the gameworld feel so much more alive. If only there were mines included too... it could really put some meaning behind the words!
I like this idea too. They are like PDAs in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl. Might be some easter eggs in hidden places too, like in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. SoC there was a dead guy and when you picked up his PDA it said he is Gordon Freeman (main role in Half-Life).
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that feature opens a lot of new possibilities for role-players, i like it. To me, holodisks should be easy to get, so that everyone can use them!
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(...) To me, holodisks should be easy to get, so that everyone can use them!
They are easy to get - ofc if you have few caps :)
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They are easy to get - ofc if you have few caps :)
Cool, sounds like everybody will at least be able to get a couple.
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You know that you are doing something right as a developer when you have so many people desperatly crying for a wipe to play a 12 year old game :)
with that said, wiiiipe pleqaaase! half joking ;D Im kinda new here and recently found out about fonline I just wanted to say its so awesome!
By the way, I thought about one thing, wouldt it be cool if you could have an option to sign those holodecks in a way, like hash or tripcode, just incase you wanted it signed. Eitherway, holodecks seemslike a cool RP feature, looking forward to all the updates!
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its not a 12 year old game, fallout is a 12 year old game. I don't know exactly how old fonline is but they are two seperate ganes since they don't even share the same game engine ;)
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baah you know what i mean 8)
You can put an F1 engine in a yugo but youre still riding a yugo :P
(not comparing fonline to a yugo lol)
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that feature opens a lot of new possibilities for role-players, i like it. To me, holodisks should be easy to get, so that everyone can use them!
How about craftable, out of say, 2 junk, 1 metal parts(?) and 1 electronic parts
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More about golodisc's
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fuck yeah, now i can write a story about every slave i own and the poor bastards trading with me will have to read an EE (extended essay) worth of text if they are interested in it.
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damn! i cant wait much longer :(
i think, i will cut my veins then
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The wipe will happen today at approx 1800 GMT+1.
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The wipe will happen today at approx 1800 GMT+1.
WOW!
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can we have detailed changelog?
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We will post the detailed changelog short before the wipe.
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We will post the detailed changelog short before the wipe.
Awesome! can't wait. Finnaly wipe!
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the thread becomes epic i need to post smth here ....
and its need to be positive so it doesnt get moved to junk...
The wipe will happen today at approx 1800 GMT+1.
omg so nice!
done XD
PS. Finally cant wait for the list of detailed changes (i hope we get some details not just "crits reworked" and guess if its devil hid there now or squirrel)
QUESTION it will be updatable from current client or i should start looking for my F2 cd ...(aka new instal)
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The wipe will happen today at approx 1800 GMT+1.
ill roll a joint for that haha
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The wipe will happen today at approx 1800 GMT+1.
Excellent
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I have got one question. :P
How long are be this wipe?
When server is be off. How long we must wait to play again? ;d
Sorry for my English. :<
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Someone said that the wipe takes about 10 minutes. ;)
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This is really great news. :)
I can't wait to see the full changelog.
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are they wiping now? or am I still REALLY tired.
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what timezone are we talking about for the wipe?
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what timezone are we talking about for the wipe?
+8 GMT
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+8 GMT
wtf it is +1 gmt
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+8 GMT
It's at +1 GMT mate
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The wipe will happen today at approx 1800 GMT+1.
No no no no no no
Please wait until 11h30 pm when I come back from work :D
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rofl
it's 18:00 +1 GMT, that means for example that if you live in sweden it will be in 18:00
wiiiiiiiii for meeeee
@above :P eat something bad... so you get sick or something and get home sooner >.>
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wtf it is +1 gmt
No shit. It's on fucking previous page. Just checking how roachor is lazy.
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so now it will be pure hell!!! i love that
Good luck on the wastelands
Great Work all developing staff and Moderators did
There is no Message...
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Will be coming new era Fallout!!! congratulation companions!!! ;)
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Will be coming new era Fallout!!! congratulation companions!!! ;)
Not yet, you'll be flat and 2D ;p
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well if we need to re-instal fallout and re-instal Fonline patch ....Update server dont work at this time so i Pray for Download'able Patch
There is no Message...
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well if we need to re-instal fallout and re-instal Fonline patch ....Update server dont work at this time so i Pray for Download'able Patch
There is no Message...
Wait 20 minutes
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Wait 20 minutes
True....and i hate sad true xP but i want to see...this Thongs of blue suits :D rushing trought wastelands
There is No Message...
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For God's sake. you were supposed to wait for me :D
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Server is down. That can mean only 1 thing - WIPE, WIPE, WIPE, WIPE!!!
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The server is down since an hour, relax. ;)
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I hate the begin...
Everywhere will be so full of people :P
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Wipe comes, if all bugs are exterminated.
(http://madkevin.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/starshiptroopers_l.jpg)
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/Bleachomoan/stt3-1.gif) (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/Bleachomoan/?action=view¤t=stt3-1.gif)
THE BUGS HAS BEEN BEATEN !!!!!
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Do not worry, be happy
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THE BUGS HAS BEEN BEATEN !!!!!
Yaaaay! :D but now....Newbie time!
There is No Message...
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playtime :D:D
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My god... It's full of files... ;D
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remember to run updater.exe ;D
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/Bleachomoan/stt3-1.gif) (http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/Bleachomoan/?action=view¤t=stt3-1.gif)
THE BUGS HAS BEEN BEATEN !!!!!
YEAH!!! EAT THAT!!! Good work soldiers, you may now kill the rest million :)
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HAPPY NEW WIPE!
Gentlemen, load your charsheets!
Btw, blubber is no more. Tigga please. ;D ;D ;D
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7594/tiggerplease.gif) (http://img708.imageshack.us/i/tiggerplease.gif/)
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As I said, Now you Soldiers have to beat all rest million bugs
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1939/woodrough0009thumbhuge.jpg) (http://img62.imageshack.us/i/woodrough0009thumbhuge.jpg/)
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Do exactly what's written there. "PRESS ENTER".
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just login - press the ERROR in the top and everything will be normal:
as the changelog said
IMPORTANT:
- Use the Updater to get the new client and game files. After the update, you have to login at least once in order to regenerate the default.cache file.
or press enter :P as lexx said
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Whoopsie daisy, I was so excited that I forgot to read everything ;D
EDIT: I forgot my pass, how do I get it back? ;D
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damn xD get into game, starts to go around with mate :P first guys you run into is a bunch of bbs (well they proclaimed themself to be atleast)throwing grenades xD //sorry army, no fa in turnbased :(
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Jesus christ over 400 people on
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wtf is up with the desert stalkers xD damn 3dbug did 27 dmg on me :( damn wicked ap on them aswell :S i moved 9 hexes and it could still run up and hit me... (OMG YES IM FIGHTING IN TURNBASED!) are they supposed to be that strong :/
heh 444 people in fonline :P
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Well that was an epic fail, for every 1 step forward the devs take 2 steps back.
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So i just logged in.
Apparently Im a big fireball with a smiley face and when I try to move itr says your critter cant move. WTFshit?
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Well that was an epic fail, for every 1 step forward the devs take 2 steps back.
Explain yourself or I will simply delete every bullshit you write, from now on.
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rrr lexx can i get sum help?
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Read the changelog. You have to relog.
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Well that was an epic fail, for every 1 step forward the devs take 2 steps back.
I dont get that too. You could atleast explain why would you think so, but nah, looks you cant do even that.
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Explain yourself or I will simply delete every bullshit you write, from now on.
50 bullets for the same amount of mats is ridiculous, the new quests look like they were written by a child on his first day of english class, its way too hard to craft the laser pistol/ammo, the new quests only help people who can kill things or are super vague. Pretty much the crafting system is even worse than before, FA getting nerfed helps no one. Honestly the only upside is the new creeps, I had a lot of hope for this update and it has gone down the toilet.
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Excuse me Roachor, but I think the crafting system is meant to be like that because now you will need to spend your time better, split work, and such so you don't just start the game and in 4 hours have a gun and bullets and shoot everyone you see. Is that what you want in this game? I think it is not going to happen.
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the new quests look like they were written by a child on his first day of english class
Next time, we will write them in russian language, if that suits you better. :)
its way too hard to craft the laser pistol/ammo,
And you don't think it could be, because... uh... eh... it's a laser pistol?
the new quests only help people who can kill things or are super vague
I doub't that. At least 3 quests (let's add the job too, then it's 4) can be done without any combat. One can be done without hard combat, if you are smart and the rest is exactly for PvE and a bit harder. /Edit: I just checked my files. At least 11 of the new ones can be done without combat.
FA getting nerfed helps no one.
It helps to make stimpaks and healing powder more useful. You could try it, instead of using FA. Or wait... did you xp farmed with FA before? There have been many people doing that, before the wipe.
I had a lot of hope for this update and it has gone down the toilet.
Same story as always: Don't like it? Don't play it. Don't know, what's so hard about that.
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crafting system is allright :> wasteland is harsh!
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I don't like the junk gathering, can't find any... heard that the same is with wood, but I think rest is alright, especially "starting" quest :)
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Haha guess you should change the "Junk" part of the forum since you don't find junk in barrels anymore! :P... :-\... :(... :'(
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I have to say that I'm a bit surprised. Normally, I already gave up fonline, but with this changelog there are a few things I really like.
I don't like the 3d critters, they are looking completely out of place. But it's more a matter of taste I guess.
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Haha guess you should change the "Junk" part of the forum since you don't find junk in barrels anymore! :P... :-\... :(... :'(
god dammit now i gotta change my guide :P
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fast shot still work for bigguners?
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Excellent job on the update, mods. The atmosphere is much more potent now, I think.
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I have to say that I'm a bit surprised. Normally, I already gave up fonline, but with this changelog there are a few things I really like.
I don't like the 3d critters, they are looking completely out of place. But it's more a matter of taste I guess.
If 3d moddelers will keep up the work (and we will have so many great artist there), I'm pretty sure we might hope for more "fitting" models in the future :)
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I am closing this thread now, as it's already way too off-topic and most likely will never get back on track again. :p