No AC is not immortal make one and then post about it
Adding 3min cooldown will be a pain for most of the players, others will just bypass it with fast relog anyway, causing a wall of butthurt. With no GMs actually enforcing game rules right now you could fast relog or dual log and get away with it. So, I'm not sure that adding this cooldown will help and I'm pretty sure that people will still whine about it.
I support those 3mins of cooldown as before the wipe...3 minute cooldown before wipe is a myth. It was 10 minutes with possibility to get on 3 minute cooldown if staying ingame for longer time. And it sucked hard. Make 1 or 2 min cooldown that should be enough to not piss regular players who are not involved into pvp shit.
Shotguns Caws PancorsHell no, the pancor is very good
its dissaster these weapon are total uselles maybe against scorpions or molerats
Hell no, the pancor is very goodTry running with non-farmable weapon at avenger guy with psycho used, gg
If you dont want to use/fight vs waves of alts just ask devs for no lvl cap, and Alt related with forum account.
"hurr durr, we have 8 more alts then the opponent team, we have more chances to win, hurr."
Or say goodbye to players who just simply don't have many alts or don't have time for that.
FR is no-go in general, because you think it's fun doesn't make it good, it simply just doesn't work that way. Nobody is going to stop play if you mostly would use 1 character in combat, on the other hand players are discouraged to play if they have to have multiple to be effective.
I have no problems with FR myself, i have dozen of alts and whatever, but i rather would like to rely less on who have more alts on WM. If the enemy has more alts it's usually a downhill battle, where is the fun in that?
Explain me the difference between that and
"we have 8 more players then the oppenent team, we have more chances to win, hurr"
you are too blind to see it.
whats the problem here, FR? i dont think so, coz it brings more action then ever b4.
you already saw mass player (like North Bandits) don't have FR for each member, only faction like BBS have many Fr for each players
Actually it brings less action. Players without fastrelog will simply stay out of action because they know they won't stand a chance.
Actually it brings less action. Players without fastrelog will simply stay out of action because they know they won't stand a chance.
Why dont you share/give some of Your uber powa build to this who didnt have time or dont want to make them?
The same question to others.
Then support good ani-alt idea and stop crying about FR coz You will have Sandboxie problem. Now everybody have same chances, b4 the wipe only high speed cpu owners was able to participate in long term fights. Ask Yourself what would You like more.
For example BH was taken today by one Man from CS, he was logged on 6 windows.
Removing FR will bring sandboxie, and its even worst then FR.I don't think you understand how to use sandboxie/fastrelog or how multilog detection worked last session. Maybe you didn't realise that no one was using waves of alts last session probably because you were "awaiting wipe". Just add trigger timer on death and problem is solved.
I don't think you understand how to use sandboxie/fastrelog or how multilog detection worked last session. Maybe you didn't realise that no one was using waves of alts last session probably because you were "awaiting wipe". Just add trigger timer on death and problem is solved.Are you even serious? I think you have completely no idea about what was happening in pvp in previous session and 2 sessions ago. Maybe you were too busy roleplaying pvp fighter in NCR.
It's understandable though that many of you have put in months to level up your many alts and get extra gear for them to this stage where you don't want all your work to become useless.I've heard the same bullshit 3 years ago ("you win because of fast relog"). Then, they added relog cooldown and guess what. Didn't help much, because fast relog is not "I win" button.
Actually I remember many players with dual logs (proxy) and fastrelogs, yes it was harder than now but still doable. My friend had dynamic IP so before each fast relogging he just switched his IP and he never had any problems with GMs. Your argumentation might be that it was only few players doing such thing, that's true and also the truth is that they had a huge advantage over other "non-cheating" players.
Show me gang where all players have proxy or dynamic IP it can be up to 3 guys not whole gang.You kidding, right? Dynamic IP is very common. I'd rather say that static IP is quite rare. Dunno how it's in other countries, but in Poland you've got dynamic IP by default and to have maintained static IP address you've got to pay extra. It's quite logical too when facing the fact that number of IP addresses available for certain ISPs is far from infinite.
Your argumentation might be that it was only few players doing such thing, that's true and also the truth is that they had a huge advantage over other "non-cheating" players.This.
Its not about hypocricy its about what other gangs do.
Yes, waves of alts happened.
In times when unicorns still existed.
You want to tell me that The Cowards don't use FR? ::) Poor you. Everyone use it. But some use it better than others. The others cry. There are always better players. Deal with it.Lol, no life. Its your choice. ;)
Anyway i don't care if there are fast relogs or not. I don't care if devs remove it from game or not. But i like that i can use more alts than anyone just because i leveled more of them. It's fine because i put a lot of effort on it. Stuff x 10, time x 10 just to prepare for a battle ;)
You should understand that there was FOnline2238 before April 11, 2011, 09:18:22 pm.
I played with you previous session, maybe you have forgot, but i sure don't remember you setting up additional alts on WM through multiple windows and then at least FR had a CD, that was 3 minutes.Sure thing, I didn't do it.
You should understand that there was FOnline2238 before April 11, 2011, 09:18:22 pm.
Something did happen, waves of whole teams stopped, small cells like you aren't going to affect much. It's irrelevant what happened before me, get over it. Mercenary leaders are always going to be used on another window, have been and will be, CD on combat won't change that, but it will deny whole waves it will have a global effect.
Don't miss the point.
You want to tell me that The Cowards don't use FR? ::) Poor you. Everyone use it. But some use it better than others. The others cry. There are always better players. Deal with it.
You miss the point, for us who were not using multi log last session (vs Kilgore and is 2 pack of merc) it was pain to fight that. Now is not perfect, but at least is fair for everyone.
larger faction of more players use more alts than a faction with less players, per player.
Mercenary leaders are always going to be used on another window, have been and will be, CD on combat won't change that
Wait what prevented for you to use mercenary leaders yourself? Had enough scouts, can't put one on a window? Please, you of all players. ;D
Player want to play, not stay WM and wait for spawning merc somewhere, even get a scout was complicated last session, merc leader was close to impossible, to boring to play. Of course if is your second or third windows why not.
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Actualy maybe gangs should make some treaty about max alts per player lets say 2-3. True fact is that there will be always players trying to byppas rules as was siad.
You are alone, against all... ;)
Paladin your idea is not bad at all, but like Leon say it will be tough to make all PVP team accepting something like that.
Try running with non-farmable weapon at avenger guy with psycho used, ggI guess you never tried letting the enemy come to you, and also, I don't think you will be alone when you are charging at someone or another group.Fletches and slugs ammo plox.