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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2010, 07:34:34 am »

Let me get this straight. If you kill someone randomly in the wasteland, a little birdy is going to fly over to NCR and all the other factions and tell them that you PKed and place a bounty on your head? I think only players should be allowed to call the bounties if they witness the kill.

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
yes I ripped this one off^
If a blue suit is killed in a desert and no one is around to hear him/her scream, does he/she make a sound?

I rest my case
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2010, 09:43:34 am »

If I join a faction how the hell does every town know I am in that faction?? (uh raiders helloo?)

Second of all CS hasn't just killed some people they have killed alot of people.  CS should be classified as a raider faction as they have the numbers and equipment.
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2010, 05:06:45 pm »

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Second of all CS hasn't just killed some people they have killed alot of people.  CS should be classified as a raider faction as they have the numbers and equipment.
And who tells the stories that CS is a PK faction? Of course killed ones, and how they do it if they were killed?

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If I join a faction how the hell does every town know I am in that faction?? (uh raiders helloo?)
Obviosuly needs a change.
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2010, 05:15:46 pm »

u say easy solution  ? i use a few pvp alts some of them are shared some of them are mine, i have never been in NCR or other defended cities, so how ur easy solution is gonna affect me ? there is only one way to do it, increase the number of players, if we had lets say 1000 players on the server u could think about some faction wars or killing outlaws, atm its not possible, and devs and their cooldows keep the numbers low
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2010, 05:33:08 pm »

And who tells the stories that CS is a PK faction? Of course killed ones, and how they do it if they were killed?
Obviosuly needs a change.

yea we are anti-pk xD

Let me get this straight. If you kill someone randomly in the wasteland, a little birdy is going to fly over to NCR and all the other factions and tell them that you PKed and place a bounty on your head? I think only players should be allowed to call the bounties if they witness the kill.

If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
yes I ripped this one off^
If a blue suit is killed in a desert and no one is around to hear him/her scream, does he/she make a sound?

I rest my case

dont use so much different colors, you can use just [ b ] ;p
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2010, 05:47:36 pm »


dont use so much different colors, you can use just [ b ] ;p
I'll use as many damn colours as I please!... seriously though, 2 colours was too much for you?

I'm pretty sure many people agree that: word doesn't travel fast enough in the wastes to alert everyone about PKers. Although, it does beg the question... Why are we alerted of town control?
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2010, 05:57:13 pm »

Well, it's mainly to protect bluesuits and alert gangs who want some fight.
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2010, 06:17:28 pm »

I'll use as many damn colours as I please!... seriously though, 2 colours was too much for you?

I'm pretty sure many people agree that: word doesn't travel fast enough in the wastes to alert everyone about PKers. Although, it does beg the question... Why are we alerted of town control?

yes too much because you use b and color... and it looks so bad on current theme...
and also this just looks like child play ;p
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2010, 07:22:51 pm »

u say easy solution  ? i use a few pvp alts some of them are shared some of them are mine, i have never been in NCR or other defended cities, so how ur easy solution is gonna affect me ? there is only one way to do it, increase the number of players, if we had lets say 1000 players on the server u could think about some faction wars or killing outlaws, atm its not possible, and devs and their cooldows keep the numbers low
Oh yeah, moar fights! Moar n00bz to pwn! Moar gunz!

Do you know how many people I know left this game because of feel bored by cooldowns? A few.
Do you know how many people I know left this game because of constant fight everywhere they went, because of "omg-u-noob-i-pwn-u" guys, becuase they were disappointed of RP lack in game, because of some idiots from certain gang, that use militia to shoot everyone that enters a city? Dozens.
Sure, these guys could gather and kill everyone to prove how good soldiers they are. But it seems you are mad about being forced to craft and wait - why do you want to force people to fight, when they don't want to?
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2010, 08:10:24 pm »

Oh yeah, moar fights! Moar n00bz to pwn! Moar gunz!

Do you know how many people I know left this game because of feel bored by cooldowns? A few.
Do you know how many people I know left this game because of constant fight everywhere they went, because of "omg-u-noob-i-pwn-u" guys, becuase they were disappointed of RP lack in game, because of some idiots from certain gang, that use militia to shoot everyone that enters a city? Dozens.
Sure, these guys could gather and kill everyone to prove how good soldiers they are. But it seems you are mad about being forced to craft and wait - why do you want to force people to fight, when they don't want to?
Why are people complaining about PK? Stop running into broken hills with all your shit at level 3. Stop going HQ mining alone. Learn how to adapt to this awesome game and stop complaining about how you have to wait. Patience is a virtue. Games without cooldowns like WOW simply make it so that the player who plays the most wins. With Fonline it's different. To be good, you must make friends, work as a team and/or macromanage multiple alternate characters. You have to play smart and constantly change your routine to thwart the efforts of PKers and griefers. I hate how people bash this game for being as unique as it is.

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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2010, 08:31:34 pm »

Why are people complaining about PK? Stop running into broken hills with all your shit at level 3. Stop going HQ mining alone. Learn how to adapt to this awesome game and stop complaining about how you have to wait. Patience is a virtue. Games without cooldowns like WOW simply make it so that the player who plays the most wins. With Fonline it's different. To be good, you must make friends, work as a team and/or macromanage multiple alternate characters. You have to play smart and constantly change your routine to thwart the efforts of PKers and griefers. I hate how people bash this game for being as unique as it is.

PEACE

We're also allowed and supposed to question and criticize features we find inconvenient. It's just well represented and reasoned feedbacks are scarce. The fact that players do adapt too well and then stay quiet has somewhat stalled the progress of the game.
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2010, 09:08:15 pm »

We're also allowed and supposed to question and criticize features we find inconvenient. It's just well represented and reasoned feedbacks are scarce. The fact that players do adapt too well and then stay quiet has somewhat stalled the progress of the game.
Cool, you have your opinion. I have mine.
yes too much because you use b and color... and it looks so bad on current theme...
and also this just looks like child play ;p
umm I don't care? It's a forum, who cares about presentation or how your text looks to other people? It's just text...
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2010, 09:15:05 pm »

Cool, you have your opinion. I have mine.umm I don't care? It's a forum, who cares about presentation or how your text looks to other people? It's just text...
becouse it's unreadable? don't be pokemon...
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2010, 09:36:09 pm »

Why are people complaining about PK? Stop running into broken hills with all your shit at level 3. Stop going HQ mining alone. Learn how to adapt to this awesome game and stop complaining about how you have to wait. Patience is a virtue. Games without cooldowns like WOW simply make it so that the player who plays the most wins. With Fonline it's different. To be good, you must make friends, work as a team and/or macromanage multiple alternate characters. You have to play smart and constantly change your routine to thwart the efforts of PKers and griefers. I hate how people bash this game for being as unique as it is.

PEACE
I'm stubborn man, I can and I did adapt, I just wanted to mention about people who unfortunately didn't and left.

I agree, if you are not a fighter, you need to be smart. I don't know anything about other MMOs, never played any.

By the way, I'm in Broken Hills even less often than in NCR :>
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Re: Rework PVP
« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2010, 09:49:54 pm »

becouse it's unreadable? don't be pokemon...
So the people who made forums put color change in to make text illegible. nice one

I'm stubborn man, I can and I did adapt, I just wanted to mention about people who unfortunately didn't and left.

I agree, if you are not a fighter, you need to be smart. I don't know anything about other MMOs, never played any.

By the way, I'm in Broken Hills even less often than in NCR :>

yea, i guess play styles are all subjective. Pretty soon we're going to have to write guides for each style of play xD. It sucks that some are too impatient to give fonline a chance.
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