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Author Topic: 2238 is simulator of waiting  (Read 37913 times)

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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2010, 10:02:54 am »

the only good thing from this wipe was spawnig near you die and vualt city towers

the worst decressed movement as it was already slow and fast shot only works for aimed weapons
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2010, 11:28:15 am »

Nobody should be whining in first place. Everyone should just report what they experience, state whether they felt it was okay or not and then suggest changes. People should then comment on these reports in polite manner and make their own reports. What's up to the devs is tell us what they want the game to be like so that we can more precisely describe if our experiences represent the way devs want this game to be like.




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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2010, 11:52:04 am »

Nobody should be whining in first place. Everyone should just report what they experience, state whether they felt it was okay or not and then suggest changes. People should then comment on these reports in polite manner and make their own reports. What's up to the devs is tell us what they want the game to be like so that we can more precisely describe if our experiences represent the way devs want this game to be like.
Well said.

There's a big difference between constructive criticism, which we gladly receive and listen to, and just plain whining and disrespect. One of the reasons why I've didn't respond to a lot of threads is because there's a lot of junk camoflauged as useful feedback, mostly in form of 10 people screaming the same thing in unison without any solutions to the problems that are supposedly so bad that the game is unplayable (and yet they continue to play after each whine).

I'm sorry that we can't reply to every thread, it's simple too time consuming with all the other things that goes into this project, fixing bugs, developing new features, making sure GMs have the tools they need and behave in a proper way (they do 99% of the time, despite what can sometimes be thought from reading all the "GM ABUZE" threads on here) and so on.

Despite this, most of us devs read the forum every day or often enough.

I think it's only natural that there will always be a lot of fighting over smaller and bigger changes, unfortunately, sometimes we make bad changes or try new things which didn't turn out like we've thought in the end, the reasons can be many. This is a beta test, so it's only natural that progress will move in a zig-zag fashion, certainly because with new features, there will be new bugs. I'm sure if we had more people, the development process would be smoother. This is however not how it is, so we try to proceed with what there is.

Now that there's an SDK released, my hope is that the people who think that we've essentially ruined everything, goes out and makes something that they believe to be better. There's literary nothing that stops them from making something that is better than 2238, as the SDK contains all the tools needed.

So if all you're here for is personal attacks and trolling, you're of no use to anyone. Be gone.
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2010, 12:19:55 pm »

But can you tell us why this game is about waiting ? Still ?
I can tell you that in 2nd era it was fun as hell. But right now ?
Personally i only wanted to know why this game is about waiting.
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2010, 12:27:24 pm »

But can you tell us why this game is about waiting ? Still ?
I can tell you that in 2nd era it was fun as hell. But right now ?
Personally i only wanted to know why this game is about waiting.

You're saying that it is "still" about waiting, you imply that this was always the case?

What was so fun in 2nd era?

I don't believe this game is only about waiting, although there is of course elements of it, for obvious reasons. Crafting without cooldown is bad. Fast travel is bad for balance and makes cars worthless.
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2010, 12:59:11 pm »

There is always be cooldowns. Stand it or leave it. I have nothing bad to say about waiting times (i spend about 15 hours in fonline per day when there was holiday)
Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2010, 01:05:21 pm »

I get 4-6 hours of play time a day.  I have played every day since wipe.  Most of those hours are spent with a buddy too, to assist and enjoy.  We have ONE gun, NO armor, barely a tent, and 200 caps [thank god from box quest]  Most of this is because of how long it takes to travel, or when you do finally get somewhere, either the "good" NPCS spray the land with m60 ammo and you die, or some PK'n noob takes you out.  There is a TON of waiting that has NOTHING to do with cooldowns.  And if you read the beginning of this thread, most of his irritation was from train times, combined with world map travel speed, and even now the ubers have already driven the price of the cheap cars up over 25K +.  Thanks again to not being able to advance.
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2010, 01:11:35 pm »

cars yes, im really glad that cars are usefull, BUT cars price is increasing very very fast, with this rapid price  increase cars gonna be soon totaly unavailable for loners and smaller gangs.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2010, 01:13:54 pm by Johnny Nuclear »
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2010, 01:15:12 pm »

cars yes, im really glad that cars are usefull, BUT cars price is increasing very very fast, with this rapid price  increase cars gonna be soon totaly unavailable for loners and smaller gangs.

This has been noted, will be fixed in an update.
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2010, 01:17:09 pm »

cars yes, im really glad that cars are usefull, BUT cars price is increasing very very fast, with this speed cars gonna be soon totaly unavailable for loners and smaller gangs.

This could soon be a problem, yes.

This has been noted, will be fixed in an update.

Ok. :D

For the rest of the fixes I am really glad they are in now. :)
At the first 2 levels I mostly use Turn Based, to get out of Encounters more easily. Then, especially when you have a friend, craft some 10mm guns. Hunt Brahmin then, make a tent. The moment you create this tent the game becomes much more easy. Concentrate on one area to hunt/make a living and the travelling speed ain't that bad.

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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2010, 01:25:50 pm »

This has been noted, will be fixed in an update.

hmm im confused, you knew that changes will cause massive cars usage, so why you dont also changed its price increasing ?
PS: next update ? today, tomorow next month next wipe ?
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2010, 01:33:54 pm »

hmm im confused, you knew that changes will cause massive cars usage, so why you dont also changed its price increasing ?
PS: next update ? today, tomorow next month next wipe ?

It was changed, but it was too much. Sorry for making a mistake, shall never happen again.
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2010, 01:35:33 pm »

It was changed, but it was too much. Sorry for making a mistake, shall never happen again.
;D ;D
that update will be ehm when ?
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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2010, 01:36:04 pm »

;D ;D
that update will be ehm when ?

"When it's done" , "Soon" etc. ;)

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Re: 2238 is simulator of waiting
« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2010, 01:37:28 pm »

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