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[avv]

What if the system looked like that...

Problem with this is that fallout worldmap wasn't designed for any other activity than navigating. It's not very good basis to build any advanced features on.

There are too many encounters at a time, I mean, you geting encounte ever 2 dots is ludicrous, the Wasteland IS A WASTELAND, NOTA GOD DAMN FARMLAND BUBBLING WITH MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.  I'm just saying encounters are way too common now, it doesn' realy seem like the wasteland now....

If we reduced encounters other people would complain about that. What you really don't like is that you're forced to deal with encounters when you don't want to.

[Michaelh139]

If we reduced encounters other people would complain about that. What you really don't like is that you're forced to deal with encounters when you don't want to.

That is not necessarily the case, I have 96% outdoorsman and I manage to skip 80% of encounters so its not rlly a problem but it makes the wasteland seem full of life whe its supposed to be devoid of it.

[Trokanis]

And it seriously raises your encounters with players, which 98% of the time don't end well for nice people.

[TuX]

Yep there is nothing as frustrating than entering the same encounter 3 times in a row, like it happened to me yesterday. Managed to run once - good for me, managed to run twice - good for me didn't manage to run for the third time - shame on me. I can understand the slow WM speed but for god's sake those encounters are proly not se necessary

[avv]

That is not necessarily the case, I have 96% outdoorsman and I manage to skip 80% of encounters so its not rlly a problem but it makes the wasteland seem full of life whe its supposed to be devoid of it.

But you still have to click the "no" option and that's dealing. What comes to wasteland being devoid you're probably right but it doesn't change the fact that even then encounters wouldn't have any reason to exist other than loot, exp and some meaningless difficulty for players to deal with every now and then. Eventually they serve no purpose at all when player is so powerful he doesn't need their loot or exps.

[Solar]

As for player encounters, I've no idea if anything's changed. From the repeated mentioning of increased player encounters it sounds like it may be a TLA inherited thing. Will have to ask.

That is not necessarily the case, I have 96% outdoorsman and I manage to skip 80% of encounters so its not rlly a problem but it makes the wasteland seem full of life whe its supposed to be devoid of it.

How long does it take you to travel the length of the side of a WM square? Something like just under 10 seconds?

[Michaelh139]

As for player encounters, I've no idea if anything's changed. From the repeated mentioning of increased player encounters it sounds like it may be a TLA inherited thing. Will have to ask.

How long does it take you to travel the length of the side of a WM square? Something like just under 10 seconds?

17 seconds.

[Solar]

On Mountains?

[Michaelh139]

On Mountains?

Around NCR which is desert.

[Trokanis]

Thanks Solar for looking into the PC encounters, because the life around the cities is much more than before.  Which makes sense in a wasteland most people would be near the main hubs.  But PC encounters rarely end well in this game for people.

One outstanding problem with Random Encounters.  [Good/Neutral] Npc's have this bad habit of not only missing with their automatic weapons but hitting people no where NEAR where they were shooting.  I was visually 2+ hexs from a rogue in a random encounter with them and unity patrol, and in turn based most 2 rockets go off instantly and I'm dead along with the rogue that I was soon to be running away from.  Before that NCR Army opens up on a group of Marauders, and a 90 degree turn and a few hexes away I take Bullets in the chest.  Not good.

[Trokanis]

I do not like posting when I'm pissed off but I can't help it at the moment.  Marauders are STILL too much to be all over the place around NCR.  On my way from the mine to NCR I got an encounter with them.  After moving 8 <-----  spaces TWICE they still managed to move into range and BURST me for over 100hp iwith one guy.  How many AP do they have!??!  Seems like it might be a bit too many...  Even deathclaws lose an attack or two if they have to keep chasing you.

[Solar]

Theres not been an update yet, so the change where their 10mm SMGs have been made more rare hasnt come on yet.

[Trokanis]

And their ability to move 6 spaces and burst and a fair range?

[Solar]

http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Critter_264
http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Critter_263


AP - 8, they don't have BRoF.

[Trokanis]

Well somethings up because like I said I had at least a 16 AP movement lead on them, and they not only caught up to range, but managed a burst also.