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[Uftak]

next update.

I love these two words. They give some much hope to this game.

Also I've never seen/met any immortal chars (except gms/devs) so dunno wat'ya mean.

[John Porno]

You forget that taking such high AC rather limits your options of A) your traits and also B) your available perks.  It becomes a step system of 'how much AC are you comfortable with for your uses?' and when you feel you've reached it.  Depending on play styles, this can vary.  I myself see no reason to go so high as to 220 AC, because that sounds horribly gimped/useless in an actual fight. 

As well- I was making an hth AC char from start of wipe, so bitch all you want about them.  People got snipers, criticals, sneaks, and this other bullshit. This is a viable build to counter (shitty)things like all those laser/sniper rifles shooting your eyes at 50 range.

ok guys, I first thought about pointing that out a couple of posts ago, too bad I didn't. What the video I posted shows is
FREE SCOUTINGwithout having to risk anything. There's not even the need for sneakers and the 220ac chars can well be 12PE chars. I couldnt care less about the actual combat capabilites but the free scouting is what really can ruin pvp.

[Slick]

ok guys, I first thought about pointing that out a couple of posts ago, too bad I didn't. What the video I posted shows is
FREE SCOUTINGwithout having to risk anything. There's not even the need for sneakers and the 220ac chars can well be 12PE chars. I couldnt care less about the actual combat capabilites but the free scouting is what really can ruin pvp.

Wasteland is harsh all blue suit scouts should die like in a normal 2238 game. If somebody walks into an area with no gear blue suit they should be able to die like the build with top gear and best weapons when being shot at by 15 people. This game shouldn't be rewarding those lazy people who want to run around blue suit, its harsh remember?

[Uftak]

can ruin pvp.

Fast-relog already done it. But ye... It's always possible to make it worse.

[Slick]

Fast-relog already done it. But ye... It's always possible to make it worse.

You can kill waves of fast logging uber l337 ape builds with 15 people, but you can't kill 1 blue suit with max ac with 15 people.

[Uftak]

You can kill waves of fast logging uber l337 ape builds with 15 people, but you can't kill 1 blue suit with max ac with 15 people.

I can, unarmed and melee work well on em.

[John Porno]

I can, unarmed and melee work well on em.

you can never catch up to someone as a melee, your argument is invalid.

[Uftak]

you can never catch up to someone as a melee, your argument is invalid.

So why even bother killing them? Scouts cannot pain your ass so much..

If my enemy will make a little mistake and stop for a second-he's dead (ofc if he hasn't got backup)

[avv]

So why even bother killing them? Scouts cannot pain your ass so much..

Are you serious? Are you honestly saying that scouts are no threat to anyone?

[Uftak]

Are you serious? Are you honestly saying that scouts are no threat to anyone?

I said that there are more dangerous things in this game.

[avv]

I said that there are more dangerous things in this game.

What does that even mean? Of course there are more dangerous things in the game. But this is about scouting.

Scouting is one of the key elements in pvp. No smart team makes action before having scouted their enemy. The enemy does its best to fight off the scouts, denying information from the assailants. But killing a high ac scout is rather hard and he isn't even risking anything. If you honestly don't realize how powerful free scouting with high ac is, you deserve a noob-stamp in your forehead.

[Uftak]

What does that even mean? Of course there are more dangerous things in the game. But this is about scouting.
But killing a high ac scout is rather hard

I guess so.

and he isn't even risking anything.

From when scouts are risking' anything?

don't realize how powerful free scouting with high ac is, you deserve a noob-stamp in your forehead.

I love where this conversation is comin', please F.L.A.M.E me, I don't remember when somebody done this pleasure to me.

Oh and that "why even bother killing them" was rather a sarcasm, don't worry if you don't get it, I sometimes got same problems.

[avv]

From when scouts are risking' anything?

Since people were using sneaks who use actual gear. Personally I have nader/bg and gatling laser sneaks. Risking enough? Or should I perhaps carry additional 100k caps in my inventory?

I love where this conversation is comin', please F.L.A.M.E me, I don't remember when somebody done this pleasure to me.

It's coming to the point where it's clear you don't know what you're talking about.

[racoon]

lol, Slick i guess you to make own 220 ac troll and enjoy gaming its really funny playing on dodger.

I can, unarmed and melee work well on em.

you mean heavy handed?

[Jackiepaipai]

Sneaking also offer free scouting, high ac char are just another option now.