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[Jensai]

Thank you for the fast reply. =)
I didn't know that she wouldn't get mad because I had tried two previous times with different combinations that yielded the same results, thank you for the info, I guess I'll just try again! =)

[Furior]

Can someone tell me if Spray and Pray ignores Man of Steel perk?

PD: whats wrong with detonator parts? ive tried to buy them like 12 times and got none....

[Kelin]

Can someone tell me if Spray and Pray ignores Man of Steel perk?

It does not. Man of steel has nothing to do with a critical chance, it reduces critical damage dealt on a perk owner.

whats wrong with detonator parts? ive tried to buy them like 12 times and got none....

I've heard Kitty is camping them 24/7. Try to stay there for like an hour or two, you either meet her or you manage to buy some detonator parts 

[Roachor]

Man of steel is 10% chance to hit and 10% crit table reduction, fyi, but spray and pray only removes armour crit modifiers.

[greenthumb]

Iam checking detonators only by time to time. I have bought this weekend 18(8+10) parts, previous weekend 22 parts(7+7+8), i know many people complaining about this, but actualy its not that hard, at least not for me. They do not spawn that frequent and i guess it has smthing to do with number of active players in town. Good luck.

@SNP: it does ignore only armour modifiers, not perks. Mos should modify chance to be criticaly hit, not roll for power of this hit, are you sure about this kelin?

[Kelin]

Pretty sure.

Sources:
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/perks
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,22541.msg186915.html#msg186915
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=25023.15
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=21036.0

Man of steel is 10% chance to hit and 10% crit table reduction, fyi, but spray and pray only removes armour crit modifiers.

Wtf??! 

[greenthumb]

rly thanks, you made me remind that i have read one of the threds in past, but i have spend too much time on nitue, where "critical resistance" in my mind is smthing what prevents your from criticals. But it reduces severity of criticals, just misunderstunding.

i guess it does work same for bonehead. So with bonehead and MOS you have -20 critcal power modifier for head and -10 for rest of body parts.
This crit. power modifier is just raw number added to roll for crit power. Same as perk "Better criticals" adds raw +20 to roll.

Well i would like to know if armours got both "critical chance modifier" and  "critical power modifier". If its so, which of these does SNP realy readuce? both?

[Marko]

Man of steel is 10% chance to hit and 10% crit table reduction, fyi, but spray and pray only removes armour crit modifiers.

Do you mean MoS is a 10% reduction to both CtH and crit table?

[Alvarez]

Are some kind of fear system implemented? I encountered some rats with my lvl24 char and rats bursted in every direction but mine.

[Roachor]

Do you mean MoS is a 10% reduction to both CtH and crit table?

http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Man_of_Steel

Yup

[greenthumb]

@Roachor, well this make me even more confused, becouse nitue says its just Severity(resistance= negative crit power modifier)

Effects:
+10 Head crit. resistance
+10 Critical resistance

@Alvarez: probably you taged kamikaze or doger or both, so rats are unable to hit you even if they are 1 hex, they tactics in such situation is to flee.

[Roachor]

Nitue isn't accurate, they just separate head and body crits in the planner to make it simpler to understand.

[Kelin]

Roachor, referencing obsolete wiki as the only reliable source while over 50% of wiki is inaccurate is not a good idea. Just imagine the madness for snipers, aiming groin with 20% base crit. chance on a bluesuit is 50% chance, but on CAmk2 MoS tank it would be only 30% crit. chance... does it make sense?

I shoot MoS tanks quite often and I must say there is no problem with dealing criticals, but there is a huge problem with dealing good criticals (low dmg, no KO, no weapon drop, no cripples).

[Boon Lived]

Are some kind of fear system implemented? I encountered some rats with my lvl24 char and rats bursted in every direction but mine.

It could be because of your Armor Class.

[Roachor]

The wiki is more accurate than you think, to put it in perspective nitue is all guesses based on information passed on by players (in this case myself). The reason crit builds don't notice the drop is 10% less chance to crit isn't obvious when there are so many unknowns.