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Author Topic: New (?) suggestions about armors  (Read 3489 times)

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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2011, 09:04:03 pm »

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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2011, 09:34:08 pm »

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I suppose you won't reveal any number, but should we expect a visible change in the armors damage resistance ?

Can't find my nice neat spreadsheet dedicated to the armour, so try and decypher these table of numbers.

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      None   LJ   LA   LA2   CLJ   M   M2   Tesla   CA   CA2   BCA
DR      0   20   25   30   25   25   30   25   40   40   40
DR-En      0   20   20   20   20   75   80   85   60   65   65
DR-P      0   10   10   10   10   20   25   75   50   50   50
DR-F      0   20   30   35   40   10   10   10   25   30   35
DR-Ex      0   20   30   35   30   20   25   20   40   40   45
DR-El      0   30   30   40   30   0   10   80   45   50   50


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            None   LJ   LA   LA2   CLJ   M   M2   Tesla   CA   CA2   BCA
DT            0   0   3   4   2   2   3   3   5   6   7
DT-En            0   0   0   0   0   6   7   10   6   7   7
DT-P            0   0   0   0   0   4   4   10   4   5   5
DT-F            0   0   3   4   4   0   0   0   3   4   5
DT-Ex            0   0   3   4   2   1   2   1   5   6   7
DT_Elect            0   0   0   1   0   0   1   12   2   3   3
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2011, 10:17:54 pm »

Well, general small nerfs here and there, some +5% and -5%. Interesting changes:
For MA II: -5% DR normal -1DT, -5% DR Fire and Explosions.
For BA: -1DT normal, -5% DR laser, -10% DR Plasma, -15% DR Fire, +5% DR explosives, -10% DR electric


Not much, general small nerf of resistances. The bonuses against explosives won't affect AP rocket, as it's still under 50%.
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2011, 10:49:53 pm »

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The bonuses against explosives won't affect AP rocket, as it's still under 50%

They will be 0% and -25%, so they will.
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2011, 11:38:33 pm »

What about armor's anti critical ability? effect critical tables or chance to critical?

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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2011, 11:56:56 pm »

See my post earlier in the thread about it.
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2011, 12:06:24 am »

You stated that the advanced Ca variants will provide better protection against different dmg types but if im reading those numbers right Ba is better than Ca2 against everything. Is this intended or am i missing something.

I look forward to seeing some variation in what people wear once money is no object rather than hordes of Ba.
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« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2011, 12:07:56 am »

You stated that the advanced Ca variants will provide better protection against different dmg types but if im reading those numbers right Ba is better than Ca2 against everything. Is this intended or am i missing something.

I look forward to seeing some variation in what people wear once money is no object rather than hordes of Ba.

It's because we don't have the stats of the new armors (Ranger CA and Enclave CA), which will be alternatives high tier armors.
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 12:22:30 am »

Yes, ca 2 is vanilla and the other 3 have little boosts in different areas
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 09:48:45 am »

LJ has 0 DT and 0 DR for all damage types?
Is LJ Leather Jacket or Ligthblue Jumpsuit?
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2011, 09:55:48 am »

LJ has 0 DT and 0 DR for all damage types?
Is LJ Leather Jacket or Ligthblue Jumpsuit?

It's "None" which have 0DR and DT everywhere. Wait, I made a more readable sheet, gonna post it soon.


Edit : here you go

« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 09:59:35 am by Crazy »
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 10:43:07 am »

I prefer table which include DR and DT stats, so I made one. Here it is:

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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2011, 11:17:40 am »

  
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BCA quite nerfed.

Solar could you show us stats for Enclave Combat Armor?

New metal armor is like WTF  ;D No one would use it. Armors are useless against aimed EW weapons. Bypass, bypass, bypass...
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 11:25:14 am by manero »
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2011, 12:30:35 pm »

I've made a table too, this one includes delta values as well, so it shows the magnitude of changes.

New armor resistances DR / DT (Change in comparison to the current state)


Bigger image >> http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4492/restable.png
« Last Edit: June 03, 2011, 01:19:48 pm by firehand »
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Re: New (?) suggestions about armors
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2011, 01:04:55 pm »

I liked the part where they posted the charts.
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