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FIXES:
- Quest "Stranded Rust" can be finished now. This didn't worked before, due to dialog bug.
- Quest "A Man's Job" dialog fix (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=3107.0).
- Lower level ammo comes in batches of 50.
- Heater chamber moved to level 2 and flamer removed from items required, price fix to flame fuel mk II.
- Fixed overzealous Lost Hills guards.
- Weight of Iron Ore (and HQ), Minerals (and HQ), Uranium Ore, Wood and Scorpion Tails reduced.
- Timeout fixes here and there.
FEATURES:
- Junktown mining site has opened.
CHANGES (WIP):
- Configurable onscreen timeout display (enabled by default): http://fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Timeouts
- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
- Disbanding party deletes critters instead of turning them into "travellers"
- Several map updates.
RECOMMENDATIONS:
- Run the Updater for the new faction005.dat file.
IMPORTANT:
- We temporary changed the server port to 4000. Open the config tool and switch the port in the "Net"-tab to 4000.
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thanks for the info.
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
W00t, thanks! :D
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CHANGES (WIP):
This WIP means that the characters were reseted?
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about the temp server port change, is it down, or what, just being a curious tom.
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You have to run the updater again.
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thanks, it had to fix the .exe file i notice now, thanks, Senõr lexx
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This WIP means that the characters were reseted?
WIP = Work In Progress :P
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
W0000000000000000000000000000000000000000T !!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Omg, you'll see mass 21st level players tomorrow/after 2 days... one of the stupedest ever change. But... yes, now you don't need crafting cartriges when one .44 FMJ bullet from deagle will bring you tones of XP by killing poor mobs.
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Holy cow
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You can have new battle char too. So where is problem ?
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You can have new battle char too. So where is problem ?
1) Because you can go on 1st level and kill damned mutated plants who can't move and standing at the same place, and get tones of XP, by just shooting them with ANYTHING that shoot, better do it in Real Time, to not waste your RL time.
2) Killing centaurs/floaters from 1 level = 21st level at 1st day of playing (yes, of couse you can't do it, if you just created char and have nothing, but gangers/rich people/etc, can do that)
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is it me or is it down again, already...?
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1) Because you can go on 1st level and kill damned mutated plants who can't move and standing at the same place, and get tones of XP, by just shooting them with ANYTHING that shoot, better do it in Real Time, to not waste your RL time.
2) Killing centaurs/floaters from 1 level = 21st level at 1st day of playing (yes, of couse you can't do it, if you just created char and have nothing, but gangers/rich people/etc, can do that)
You can do this too.
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god bless you devs for this changelog ;)
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Is it just for me or everyone got awsome lags and almost freeze?
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atm the srver seems to be down - but i noticed that my fixboy was broken - i had "???" instead all the names of craftable items. sorry - didnt fink of screenshot...
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You can do this too.
So what reason in XP then? Let's start all 21st levels and don't waste our time! Everyone is 21st from begin, speak to NPC to get BA/CA2 or any other armor you want, speak to other NPC who will give you any weapon you want, 3rd NPC will give you x10 of all drugs and x100 stims+superstims.
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Server Doooooooooooown .
We will see , but I think Lexx should reduce Diminishing killing xp but not disabled it .
Voila .
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atm the srver seems to be down - but i noticed that my fixboy was broken - i had "???" instead all the names of craftable items. sorry - didnt fink of screenshot...
Restart the client, that should fix it.
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jeez, already... just how many people logged in at the same time...?
100 people: i wanna play, bad
server: wait! don't shove, stop it, you're hurting me
100 people: we does not care
server, ah shit, blackout
*server dies*
100 people: NOOOOOOOO!
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So what reason in XP then? Let's start all 21st levels and don't waste our time! Everyone is 21st from begin, speak to NPC to get BA/CA2 or any other armor you want, speak to other NPC who will give you any weapon you want, 3rd NPC will give you x10 of all drugs and x100 stims+superstims.
Where i can get it ? I want more 8)
Seriously, now we have one good thing in game. Its your problem that you are weak against others. You can level new char against everyone too so where is problem.
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So what reason in XP then? Let's start all 21st levels and don't waste our time! Everyone is 21st from begin, speak to NPC to get BA/CA2 or any other armor you want, speak to other NPC who will give you any weapon you want, 3rd NPC will give you x10 of all drugs and x100 stims+superstims.
I think it's better than "OMG small radscorpions! I need to kill big ones only or otherwise I lost tons of exp!" same goes to Mean/Normal Centaurs, Tough/Normal Deathclaws, Nasty Floaters etc. etc.
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exactly
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So what reason in XP then? Let's start all 21st levels and don't waste our time! Everyone is 21st from begin, speak to NPC to get BA/CA2 or any other armor you want, speak to other NPC who will give you any weapon you want, 3rd NPC will give you x10 of all drugs and x100 stims+superstims.
Devs proly solved exping system and they want to save it for full game version... now they propably want to see how the game and its system would work with high levels characters, thats why they disallowed diminishing exp critters imo. They will release it in non wipe ages when u wont mind to make a character for 3 months of play.
however I would keep this change forever due to my lack on time nad because killing of monsters is not fun :p
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jeez, already... just how many people logged in at the same time...?
100 people: i wanna play, bad
server: wait! don't shove, stop it, you're hurting me
100 people: we does not care
server, ah shit, blackout
*server dies*
100 people: NOOOOOOOO!
Ahah .
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Restart the client, that should fix it.
nope. doent work for me
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nope. doent work for me
Because now server is down :P
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Maybe the server machine broke when everyone logged in in same moment ;D
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100 people: i wanna play, bad
server: wait! don't shove, stop it, you're hurting me
100 people: we does not care
server, ah shit, blackout
*server dies*
100 people: NOOOOOOOO!
yes, i pointed this out with a semi-perverted dialogue
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yes, i pointed this out with a semi-perverted dialogue
Fuck, I was just going to point that out.
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jeez, my lunchbreak is on now and i thought i'd get some time on Dr. Ewan McKing, my first serious character which i plan on keeping, although i have to take the bonus agility perk for BRoF
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What's exactly going on with this server? Solar, can you say us? You're working on it or its just another crash?
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The servers are getting their arse kicked by players constantly trying to log in.... BY THE THOUSANDS!!
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i wonder where do those THOUSANDS come from... Mars?
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well, i'm off to lucnh, anyone mind PMsing me when they are back on? i can always abuse my coffee breaks.
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ill try to keep u posted if i dont get too busy at work
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i wonder where do those THOUSANDS come from... Mars?
nonono.... Russia. And Maayyybe some Martians.
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Just like I always say:"Fallout dont have fans.... only fanatics....."
So: How is the server??
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Finally. Good job, at last we won't need some stupid ways to exp like fa/doc. We can now just pick up a gun and ammo and go to kill for exp..
Of course, there are some people like RavenousRat, who like to grind 24/7, but well...
Thanks.
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Hey I've been wondering.. when he says switch to server 4000 does he mean server 4040? or literally 4000.... because neither works for me. :/
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21lvl, here I come... here everybody comes, dammit.
When is the next full wipeout?
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I'm pregnant .
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21lvl, here I come... here everybody comes, dammit.
When is the next full wipeout?
FULL WIPEOUT!?!?! .. meh i just started, and i aint got nuthin special... Just hope "if" there is it doesn't take too long to get it back up and running....
I'm pregnant .
.. congratulations.
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ok, guys, i have an idea, all of you close your clients, and leave em alone for 30 minutes, maybe that will fix the problem
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
yep , finally - now we waiting for restore previous fistaid formula and remove instant kills
and maybe more farmable caravans :>
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oh, but instakills is an integral part of the game, don't all you snipers agree with me?
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its cool. i never play so much to become lvl 21. so id love to test my 2 chars on edge ogf their performance
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I had hope you gonna delete that sick "weakness" from First Aid... You used FA when you had crippled limbs and guess what? You can't cure crippled limbs because you used Doctor to cure weakness... that's stupid as hell... if weakness and crippled limbs would be simply cured by 1 doctor use... Devs really want us to suffer :<
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FULL WIPEOUT!?!?! .. meh i just started, and i aint got nuthin special... Just hope "if" there is it doesn't take too long to get it back up and running....
.. congratulations.
Yeah, full wipeout. I know - beta, beta, beta. But it is like a hit in the head, when after a month of quite balanced playing (yes, playing and testing, but now I mean playing) one devs decision ruins it all. And I know - tests, tests, tests, but why something like that? There was already quite a bunch of 21lvls anyway, so not for testing... I dunno. All I know is that now you can either grab a gun and go 21 along with 1000 other players, or leave it. I think I'll choose the latter.
(I just hope they will take me to this whole Army RP thing, or I'll have to take some time being Foffline)
Good luck in grinding. And not forget to take those perks fast, they dissapear after 3 levels.
EDIT: Jodwig -> the problem was that for some strange reason weakness is treated as more important than being crippled, not that weakness exists
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yep there is prioryty for removing weaknes , not healing crippled legs and arms :/
that shoudl be changed
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Of course, there are some people like RavenousRat, who like to grind 24/7, but well...
I don't play 24/7, may be only 12/7 when study and 18/7 at holidays ;p
Anyway, I lvling by crafting cartriges, then by outdoorsman by going to sell them and return. Also by the way trying to insta-kill floaters/centaurs with my desert eagle, if they're coming too close I simply escape and continue my trip to/from catrige-selling place. You can easy make 1-2 levels/day on 16th+ without fanatic focus on crafting/selling (70% of time spending on bombing NCR), but it's boring. Also hunting Endless Walkers at Real Time mode, but they count as ghouls, and unfortunately I killed alot, so I don't get much XP.
Anyway removing diminishing XP will just make alting more useful, and XP is not a problem anymore, you can get any build in any time. It's excellent for BT, so I hope it'll be only during BT.
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I don't play 24/7, may be only 12/7 when study and 18/7 at holidays ;p
Anyway, I lvling by crafting cartriges, then by outdoorsman by going to sell them and return. Also by the way trying to insta-kill floaters/centaurs with my desert eagle, if they're coming too close I simply escape and continue my trip to/from catrige-selling place. You can easy make 1-2 levels/day on 16th+ without fanatic focus on crafting/selling (70% of time spending on bombing NCR), but it's boring. Also hunting Endless Walkers at Real Time mode, but they count as ghouls, and unfortunately I killed alot, so I don't get much XP.
Anyway removing diminishing XP will just make alting more useful, and XP is not a problem anymore, you can get any build in any time. It's excellent for BT, so I hope it'll be only during BT.
You can get any build too. Just make Big Gunner tank and good Sniper. You cant or you dont know how ? Your problem
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Server is UP !
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
One step forward and two steps back?
Yay. Another season of senseless alts everywhere. :)
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You can do this too.
You can level new char against everyone too so where is problem.
You can get any build too. Just make Big Gunner tank and good Sniper. You cant or you dont know how ? Your problem
Ok, I'll answer again:
So what reason in XP then? Let's start all 21st levels and don't waste our time! Everyone is 21st from begin, speak to NPC to get BA/CA2 or any other armor you want, speak to other NPC who will give you any weapon you want, 3rd NPC will give you x10 of all drugs and x100 stims+superstims.
You can do this too! You can make this too! He and I can make this too! We can make this too!
Let's all quit this game, because you can do it too. And go kill yourself, because you can do it too.
So what? Why do we need balancing BG/SG, when if SG>BG or SG<BG we can play all only for SG or BG in 2nd case. I'm not crying or arguing that will disbalance something, or make someone weaker, it's simple way to test alot char-builds, nothing more. As I said, removing XP diminishing is excellent for testing, but it'll kill normal gameplay.
About making PvP-char, I don't want, because as I said somewhere, I don't want to have char who can only shoot and... shoot. I have enough apm(atleast watching some TCs videos... these guys 100% haven't played any RTS like warcraft or starcraft, because they move/click with cursor like crippled zombie of turtle) and MY(without server's lags) inet-connection to play pure PvP, but I simply don't find it fun, that's the one of 3 reasons why I don't use pure PvP chars. The second reason is: it's boring to level up only by what this character can do: shoot. And third: I want to be independent, play when I want and how I want, don't want to have kind of duty or something, and where you saw PvP-loner, where there're always 3-4 guys camping? Yes, with this feature all PvPers will be happy, and that's good, because we're beta-testers, we must test everything. With fast leveling everyone will have 10000 alts with different builds.
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At least devs got the community's response at XP diminishing.
The next step will be your responses in a week, when the new changes start to work(or not) with higher amount of lvl21-players.
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Btw. How many hours roll back that was? Server just crashed... and it rolled back me a bit... hmm... by a lot?
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I did not see this one coming. Thanks devs! /bow
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(...) we're beta-testers, we must test everything. With fast leveling everyone will have 10000 alts with different builds.
We've already had 10 000 alts with different builds, before each and every wipeout. If you were playing/testing/whatever Fonline for more than three months you would know that. This is a pain in the ass for everyone except PKs (thay can easily make another superduper killing machine), radical TC PvP players (they treat the first 20 levels as a boring preparations for their beloved constant gang wars) and those like you, who don't like PvP and still don't know how it is to choose between playing 21lvl char for two months/make alts/ wait till the next wipeout.
Wait for a week. You'll understand
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Sorry for the question, but what "- Diminishing killing xp disabled." means? :-\
I can't understand...
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Sorry for the question, but what "- Diminishing killing xp disabled." means? :-\
I can't understand...
That means: No matter how many creatures you kill you gonna still get the same amount of XP.
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Sorry for the question, but what "- Diminishing killing xp disabled." means? :-\
I can't understand...
Before this update, every critter of the same type you've killed gave you less and less xp. Now it's back to "normal", where you get the same xp every time you kill the same critter.
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The amount of XP you get for killing critters is stable. You can kill 400 brahmins and still get same xp.
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Sweet Devs, can't you make server to save data more often? Like was in pre-wipe when you had server crashes... so we won't have 30+ minutes roll backs :/
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Sweet Devs, can't you make server to save data more often? Like was in pre-wipe when you had server crashes... so we won't have 30+ minutes roll backs :/
I'd be happy if I could login to the server at all. :-\
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We've already had 10 000 alts with different builds, before each and every wipeout. If you were playing/testing/whatever Fonline for more than three months you would know that. This is a pain in the ass for everyone except PKs (thay can easily make another superduper killing machine), radical TC PvP players (they treat the first 20 levels as a boring preparations for their beloved constant gang wars) and those like you, who don't like PvP and still don't know how it is to choose between playing 21lvl char for two months/make alts/ wait till the next wipeout.
Wait for a week. You'll understand
Before wipe, of couse I didn't had exactly 10'000 alts + 1 main so total 10'001 characters, but I had ALOT alts and no main, because they all were damned high levels, most of them deleted/remade, because I don't like to change names and use dots or minuses or other signs in names +alot test-alts with crazy builds only to testing one any thing. I tested almost everything is possible, and playing this game one year, but not 18/7 isn't means you're playing more than me total ;p Also when I downloaded that game at 28th January (fortunately, I got holidays) I didn't sleep for like 50 hours, and only then went to sleep only because I started to think that's not good, but really I didn't want to sleep, because this is the only game in the world for now worth to be played.
Of couse I can agree that lvling char to 21st is a bit... boring, but if you don't see any other aim at this game, except for "go to unguarded town and kill everything you see (for loners)" / "go to unguarded town and capture it with your gang", then of couse this is the best ever change in your life, because you can't play if your character isn't 21st level, because you'll always know that these guys in town have 21st, so they have an advantage.
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sry, but some of you guys really consider leveling (any kind of it) in this game enjoyable? hehe, your life must be very boring then if this can satisfie you :P
ye, but at least killing some critters can be a bit funny, but not with all the time present lags
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WTF WTF WTF? Next crash...
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You forgot that back in those times, you could farm shitload of ammo and then use this ammo to exp your 10000 (lol) alts. Now all ammo has to be crafted. Stop whining about 21 lvl chars and another wipe, it's pathetic. you can still gain experience as u like, so I don't get your point
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oh, for fucks sake, this is the 4th time the rollback has happened, i mean, really, what's the point of logiing in at all...
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WTF WTF WTF? Next crash...
we are better off waiting till they fix the crashes.
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Before this update, every critter of the same type you've killed gave you less and less xp. Now it's back to "normal", where you get the same xp every time you kill the same critter.
Thank you all for the answer, I haven't noticed at all the loss of XP killing same type mob.
Anyway, after update the server is always pretty unstable, I suggest you all to wait for play :D
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Brahmins are hostile in base......Again.
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Where exactly is the Junktown mining site located? I already encovered all the squares around the town, but no mining site...
Also, this "Timeout" Display is nice. :)
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Wiki say "south-west from Junktown" but i don't see anything too.
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It has been 3 times already that I go online play for like 30-50 minutes and the server goes down and I go back to where I was yesterday >:(
I've lost my whole morning for nothing
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Indeed, what is going on the fock? I've sold ammo 3 times and crash again... woot
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I managed to see the mine at my first login, but in later ones it was not there.. looked awesome though =).
really like the onscreen cooldowns!
now for some classic Fallout 2 until server gets stable =)
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maybe because the server status is offline :P so you should probably wait til its online..
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This shit is ridiculous, I mean first rollback I was ok with, but I had to craft and gather 200 5mm ammo, 3 times now. It is just getting fucking stupid right now. Why all the crashes?
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Works fine for me. I'm killing those damn canibals at the moment. :)
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maybe a bug, i crafted gained a 3 hours cd server crashed rolback, i have the material back but the cd remain.....
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server rollbacks to place where another rollback rollbacked. In other words you dont even need to bother playing because you will be rollbacked anyway.
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maybe because the server status is offline :P so you should probably wait til its online..
It's always showing "Off", but really you can log in ;p
maybe a bug, i crafted gained a 3 hours cd server crashed rolback, i have the material back but the cd remain.....
As always ;p
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It's always showing "Off", but really you can log in ;p
It's because the status check only checks out the 2238 port, I guess.
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This shit is ridiculous, I mean first rollback I was ok with, but I had to craft and gather 200 5mm ammo, 3 times now. It is just getting fucking stupid right now. Why all the crashes?
Again http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=3501.msg32099#msg32099.
Give it some time. Devs will get bored by shutting the server down over and over again and they might leave it running for a while...
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Do you think that devs make these rollbacks? Just take a break. And don't forget to BREATHE
Seriously, you guys are like a new player, who after being killed, comes back to retrieve his property saying "why", he's killed again and he keeps coming back. Totally stupid.
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maybe because the server status is offline :P so you should probably wait til its online..
Dont look at server statut, usual server port is closed so it always say offline. I guess they didn't change the port on the statut checking script.
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Dont look at server statut, usual server port is closed so it always say offline. I guess they didn't change the port on the statut checking script.
Ah okey, you probably right. ignore my comment :P
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Do you think that devs make these rollbacks? Just take a break. And don't forget to BREATHE
Seriously, you guys are like a new player, who after being killed, comes back to retrieve his property saying "why", he's killed again and he keeps coming back. Totally stupid.
If they can't keep it stable it would be probably better to keep it off, so you wouldn't go online and think "I'm on, nice! gonna get some exp", but in the end...
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What do you think the eta of the server coming back on is?....educated guesses anyone?
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Oh no, crash again... :-\
And again to the "start point" for 2 hours back.
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Boys, lets start to experiment with your chars.. I like this change, after my exam, i will be able to make one my combat char and join PvP with my old temates. Hurray, hurray :)
And, hurray :)
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Aaaaaand, Rollback again. :D
I think I'll just wait till today's evening.
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Boys, lets start to experiment with your chars.. I like this change, after my exam, i will be able to make one my combat char and join PvP with my old temates. Hurray, hurray :)
And, hurray :)
I dont get it. Experiment what? Seems that you're masochist if you like rollbacks
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I dont get it. Experiment what? Seems that you're masochist if you like rollbacks
I think he is talking about XP from mobs. ;p
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I dont get it. Experiment what? Seems that you're masochist if you like rollbacks
I am talking about experience. I always like to make new PvP char, totaly new, and i hope this will help me :)
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Its a really BAD IDEA
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Its a really BAD IDEA
In 3rd era, VSB had 15 active PvP players, now, 5.. This change will lead that many players will come back and will level their chars in week or two and will join PvP again...
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Its a really BAD IDEA
Realy really bad now all noobs can get 21 lvl in 1-2 days. So now will be more relogs to other alts. I think all players now can create min 20 characters beacause to get 21 lvl is now very easy
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Realy really bad nwo all nobs can get 21 lvl in 1-2 days. So now will be more relogs to otehr alts. I think all plaayers nwo can create min 20 characters beacause to get 21 lvl is nwo very easy
And whats wrong on experimenting with new player chars.. In first era, we had player with 20 level 21 chars. He made it just because of fun.
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Realy really bad now all noobs can get 21 lvl in 1-2 days. So now will be more relogs to other alts. I think all players now can create min 20 characters beacause to get 21 lvl is now very easy
Nwo? I bet you mean "now" but 3 same mistakes in 1 post? -.-
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Yeah, what's wrong with that almost all will have 21lvl? Lvl isn't equal to skills so probably nothing will change except that we will got better items when kill them ;D
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Spore plants (south-east of hub) are now a really good place to level a low level character. About 60-80hp, and 80xp per. Not great in terms of HP to XP ratio, but at least they don't move! Target practice anyone?
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i agree that diminishing exp was good feature, it should never be easy to reach lvl 21. Exp given from some critters now needs relooking :>
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BG3 not fixed? ;_ ;
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This thread is pandora's box.
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This crashes caused this update was pandora's box
How sweet. 5th or 6th rollback in almost 3 hours. Such sweet :-*
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We will shut down the server for the time beeing.
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i hope you will found the solution with lags
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You Shut down sever , i never even got to feel pain of the lag.
What am I pose to do go out side? The suns rays will melt me!
(I went out side the graphics where great but game-play was terrible)
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We will shut down the server for the time beeing.
For the time wasping means how long?
I don't want a date, but just a rough estimate if it'll be hours, days, or weeks?
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I want to play :( Ahh well time to do my homework I guess bahh I hate you people making me get good grades :S
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Yes thankyou v.much for better xp gains on critters. I don't get why so many people complain that there will be more lxl 21s, its not like you want too much grinding, well I don't.
It also gives you incentive to kill all enemies on screen rather than targetting two different types then leaving.
Levelling fast isn't gonna be a bad thing, and it will certainly bring a lot more players/gangs to pvp.
The people making the point that gangs will be able to help new alts level real quick is a bit moot because gangs/guilds/groups in mmos always have this kind of advantage.
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For the time wasping means how long?
I don't want a date, but just a rough estimate if it'll be hours, days, or weeks?
Don't know. When we get the next server version.
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Donating helps i guess? ;D
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Don't know. When we get the next server version.
Weeks then. Thank you for the answer.
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No more diminishing xp is great so thanks for that.I dont really get why anyone is upset with this change because it doesnt stop you from crafting or doing anything else,it just lets the people who love PvP do what they like without having to wait.
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Finally. Good job, at last we won't need some stupid ways to exp like fa/doc. We can now just pick up a gun and ammo and go to kill for exp..
Of course, there are some people like RavenousRat, who like to grind 24/7, but well...
Thanks.
+1
Thanks dev!
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For the time wasping means how long?
I don't want a date, but just a rough estimate if it'll be hours, days, or weeks?
Don't do bull$shit! :o
Out of there is pure evil, EVIL I SAID!
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Its a really BAD IDEA
I dont like it either. There should be some balance between having diminishing and not having diminishing xp for killing, like someone suggested (decay of diminshing over time, so causal players can lvl up faster). Its a bit unfair for people who played more and tried to make lvl 21 with diminishing xp. Anyway, Im happy for other players who will start playing thanks to this new feature.
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So my suggestion won, I'm glad you listened to players voice ( it was 85% for yes or more?). Thanks a lot devs ;]
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So my suggestion won, I'm glad you listened to players voice ( it was 85% for yes or more?). Thanks a lot devs ;]
If they repair crashes, lags and remove weakness from FA then I will be in the heaven :) and ofc. if they change burst with XL70E3 from 8 to 10 rounds! :P
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Thanks for turning off that shit exp. system
Now, i can kill NOT only MEAN centaur and NASTY floater, but all of them
NO Grinding! Easy exp!
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I dont like it either. There should be some balance between having diminishing and not having diminishing xp for killing, like someone suggested (decay of diminshing over time, so causal players can lvl up faster). Its a bit unfair for people who played more and tried to make lvl 21 with diminishing xp. Anyway, Im happy for other players who will start playing thanks to this new feature.
oh come on, look at the bright side : you can build another char faster than before ;) btw it was annoying enough to leveling with the new crafting system
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Thanks for turning off that shit exp. system
Now, i can kill NOT only MEAN centaur and NASTY floater, but all of them
NO Grinding! Easy exp!
this is really cool, if you look at his avatar ;D ;D ;D
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In fact its not hard to lvl up, its almost the same as before but I agree its boring. Achieving 21 lvl was kinda rewarding with that system. ;)
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I hope nothing more this time as Lags end totally and server never get down,but that is not possible i think.
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Return our world back, and test your mistakes on another server. We want to play!
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Return our world back, and test your mistakes on another server. We want to play!
Yeah.. I want to play too :P
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Whats estimated time to make server online ?
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Nobody can say it, stop asking... it will be up when devs find and fix the problem.
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Whats estimated time to make server online ?
I guess about one week to one month :P Like with wipe :)
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Lexx has wrote in another topic (which closed):
"So, I'll guess everything is said then."
And I dunno what you meant, in that topic which you closed was said nothing what we wanted to know.
Still waiting for answer: when the server will back online?
Seems that it gets crashed after last update - can't you just bring it back as it was before this changelog?
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As Lexx said, they're waiting for a new server version to solve the issues. If they had more infos they'd post it here, so no need to ask like that.
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Server version you mean server as machine or server as engine and other programmic thingy?
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Thank you devs!!!
Disabling diminishing exp for killing is great for all PvP fighters! Nice work, playing FOnline will be much funnier!!!
Thank you!
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
what does that mean? cause my english is not perfect...
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Read the thread more careful, it's been asked before.
Before the update, the xp you've got were lowered when you killed the same critter over and over. Now you get normal xp from every critter, it doesn't get lesser.
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Heh, it looks like everyone just charged the server to level up their alts as quick as they can (as long the developers won't change their mind), bringing the server down.
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Wouldn't it be just easier to provide a test server with the newest update? Of course, you'd need another server and the migration of database, but all these updates seem just to cause more trouble than the previous ones.
If bringing a new server up would mean some kind of a small donation, I am sure most of the players would join in.
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Heh, it looks like everyone just charged the server to level up their alts as quick as they can (as long the developers won't change their mind), bringing the server down.
That's just this weak&focking (probably)russian server machine gone down when about 200 players logged in in the same moment
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That's just this weak&focking (probably)russian server machine gone down when about 200 players logged in in the same moment
I'm not russian, but if it troubles you so badly that the server is (maybe? i dont know, i dont care..) in russia, then maybe you can get your own and play alone somewhere.. be grateful that there is a server at all.
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And how about you go and play in your own basement with yourself? If you don't like Russians, leave this project. You know, people shouldn't be judged by their nationality, only their actions. I mean some person-specific actions.
PS I'm Russian and I'm a real n1ce guy ;D
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Hey guys,
can somebody please tell me why the server is offline?
I changed the port in game server to 4000, but i cant seem to get into the game or update or whatever
Thankful for any comment :)
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Hey guys,
can somebody please tell me why the server is offline?
I changed the port in game server to 4000, but i cant seem to get into the game or update or whatever
Thankful for any comment :)
Because if they turn in online, it'll crash anyway in X minutes, till they solve a problem.
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If I was a dev, I wouldn't even visit this fucking forum.
Are you people morons? Server is unstable because there is an issue in game's engine and they are looking for it. They shut it down for you to stop moaning about rollbacks every 5 mins and to solve the issue. Server is hosted in France and afaik, it has nothing to do with current lag/crash problems.
Some of you people should seriously GET A LIFE
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If I was a dev, I wouldn't even visit this fucking forum.
Are you people morons? Server is unstable because there is an issue in game's engine and they are looking for it. They shut it down for you to stop moaning about rollbacks every 5 mins and to solve the issue. Server is hosted in France and afaik, it has nothing to do with current lag/crash problems.
Some of you people should seriously GET A LIFE
Yep. It should be written in big red capitalized letters over there at the front of the forum.
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Anyone complaining about the server could support 2238 with moneys, so the devs could afford a more reliable provider.
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If I was a dev, I wouldn't even visit this fucking forum.
Are you people morons? Server is unstable because there is an issue in game's engine and they are looking for it. They shut it down for you to stop moaning about rollbacks every 5 mins and to solve the issue. Server is hosted in France and afaik, it has nothing to do with current lag/crash problems.
Some of you people should seriously GET A LIFE
Or GM...
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the devs could afford a more reliable provider.
The server problems are not due to the provider.
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So I dont see any such important problem to close the server. Can't you just bring it back from before today's update? Then wouldn't be such changes but also wouldn't be rollbacks.
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The server problems are not due to the provider.
I don't think most people understand that when someone says "there's a problem with the server" or "the server is down" that you guys are usually talking about the server application and not the physical box from the provider. There seems to be much confusion with this. :-[
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Even if they did put the server back the way it was before they would still have to solve this problem sooner or later and I say better now than later.
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Anyway, I can't understand why they can't put server online with state before update and try to fix the data while it's working.
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So I dont see any such important problem to close the server. Can't you just bring it back from before today's update? Then wouldn't be such changes but also wouldn't be rollbacks.
shshshshshs..... stop moaning. its called progress and command managment!
the fact that u dont see the problem does not mean that there is no problem.
just go have a joint, play ball i dunno. ask ur mom if she needs help with the backyard.
heh
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Stop crying! Server isn't running, because devs are trying remove lags. So be patient! When server is laging, you are crying. When server is off, because devs are trying remove lags, you are crying. So is there any moment when you aren't crying? I like last changelog so I'll wait. Just go outside, it's spring people. On few hours turn your computers off, go outside and let devs do their work!
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we can just see how many people are "Adict'ed" of Fonline :D
Anyway if server is offline you can do something useful - Clean a house / learn something / Read books! Yeah there are books!
See ya ;D
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An unintentional side effect to this would be to ask people to donate pretending that it'd be for a better server. You'd just wait for new application and get $200 dollars in a week if the server is offline from all the addicts.
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The server problems are not due to the provider.
What is then, if i may ask? Didn't say someone that the rollbacks were due to server RAM overflow or something?
Anyway, take your time.
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Is it My updater or I just can't connect to the update server? i changed the port.
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So I dont see any such important problem to close the server.
The important problem was, that the server crashed every 30 minutes, which destroys many user accounts. If that's not an important problem, then I don't know.
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server is off because it needs to be off,we cannot help this,we must be patient. right devs take your time and fix the problem,dont rush just try to do it right no matter how long it will take. I hope it will be on in monday because I am working all weekend:)so no hurry
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The important problem was, that the server crashed every 30 minutes, which destroys many user accounts. If that's not an important problem, then I don't know.
Answer yourself when this crashes came? When you make last update. Wasn't just nicer to put it back before update and analyse problems without turning server offline?
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This is a long time effect and nothing we could have seen, when we start the server for the first time.
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They can't fuck*ng do this online, since people will whine on rollbacks and there's a high possibility of character corruptions, bugs and lost items. So basically, they're better off working offline.
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Not whining, just reporting a rollback every 3 minutes now.
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I sense another full wipe coming :o ...
Just kidding ;D
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I wonder... with all of those packets flowing from all over the world having to be syncronized.
Server Contention (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=server+contention&btnG=Google+Search)
Mother Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do.
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Lexx,
Don't bother commenting here...It just gets people to ask more questions.
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notice sever came back up then came back there down again
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Diminishing killing xp disabled.
WOW, 1 reason for me to come back to this game
thanks devs
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Any news on when the server's coming up...anything at all?
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Diminishing killing xp disabled
I am ready for the next full wipe ;D
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Hey I've been wondering.. when he says switch to server 4000 does he mean server 4040? or literally 4000.... because neither works for me. :/
This question is hilarious. Especially in the fact that it goes on to answer its question.
10/10 man. Hahahaha.
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For the time wasping means how long?
I don't want a date, but just a rough estimate if it'll be hours, days, or weeks?
Here you go!
Soon: http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Soon (http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Soon)
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i am just waiting. i will attend a big exam in 2 months,so ill wait till then..
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so, how big server downage now?
Goddammit, I have the Error screen, and the bastard refuses to go away even after 5 reinstalls...
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thats because you cannot download some files from server, which is DOWN atm :)
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anyone else feeling really optimistic about what such a long downtime might bring? I have full confidence in the Devs and GMs :)
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I've played in FO only 2 days and felt really addicted to this game.... and now I'm freaky breaking... :'(
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i only muck about on it when i have some spare time at work, and sometimes at home, and sometimes if i feel like using the bus, and , and, and, so on and so forth.
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i want new wipe! :D
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i want new wipe! :D
Me too :D
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anyone else feeling really optimistic about what such a long downtime might bring? I have full confidence in the Devs and GMs :)
Yes! Exactly! I'm also being REALLY optimistic, and thinking the devs might see all these people say what a bad idea it is to remove diminishing experience.
They should definitely ammend it, but near 1000 points for killing a bunch of mantis, where you had to EARN that with centaurs etc in the most recent version.
It also promoted crafting and trade. The game took a wonderful step in the right direction post-wipe and after April fools time, this would be detrimental methinks.
Sorry for the rant! Good initial comment zpider!
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If the lastest update doesnt work. please back to last version
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It's not the last update. It's a general problem. Thought people understood it already...
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Rather a long downtime now than continued rollbacks.
...stop saying wipe so much, guys. I get worried. Been working hard to get good gear lately.
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if wipe removes lags then do it >:(
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if wipe removes lags then do it >:(
I agree.
But damn, server still down, was hoping to play today :-\
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Someone said that will take weeks and devs doesn't negate it so I think your dreams about playing today has gone.
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Someone said that will take weeks and devs doesn't negate it so I think your dreams about playing today has gone.
Heh. Hopefully they read it real quick and thought it was week "end" :)
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if wipe removes lags then do it >:(
Nope. As he said, it's a server (engine?) issue
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Make an official post with the topic about the approximate time the server starts. If you know the time of inclusion, it is much reduce the empty statements and questions: "When will include?". And if the server is turned on before - this is fine and this is good luck))
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What if they make a topic and write WE HAVE NO IDEA?
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What if they make a topic and write WE HAVE NO IDEA?
But...I wouldn't understand....
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Even if the dev's have "no idea" they must have some idea....surely...as in are we talking weeks, months to fix it? also have they crossed swords with this problem before? if so a little more information would be nice, to save poor addicts the agony of checking every ten minutes or so on the forums for updates....please! even if it is a rough guess i wouldn't care. JUST ANYTHING! (starts pulling hair out) though i do appreciate it's an unforeseen problem and big updates and fixes are good so i don't mind waiting, but someone must know something? (i knew i should have taken 'Fonline resistant' as a perk, instead of 'reliant')
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I want to play too, but you can't stay asking for time every minute.
And I think they have "no idea" because if it's really a bad and complicated server issue, they can't extimate a time.
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i think fixing server takes one, ten or thousand, days, months or yers
be patient ;D
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I want to play too, but you can't stay asking for time every minute.
And I think they have "no idea" because if it's really a bad and complicated server issue, they can't extimate a time.
If the idea was a failure, you can always overcome difficulties or to abandon the idea.
I suggest getting a little bit of certainty from the GM, instead of speculation and idle chatter of other players
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Remember that's not a P4Pgame, they are using their free time and a loooooot of patience ;D
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i am patient but as oldsly said a little bit of reassurance wouldn't go amiss.
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I think you meant P2P not P4P, but anyway that doesn't mean they should leave us without any more exactly than "soon" info.
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P2P: Peer-to-Peer / P4P: Pay-for-Play.... ???
Yes, they should give us info IF they have info.
And what I mean is that free game's devs are less binded than P4P (or P2P) devs...
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Pay to(2) play
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From Wikipedia
"Pay to Play, sometimes pay for play, is a phrase used for a variety of situations in which money [...]"
Both are correct :)
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Anyway, lets stop offtopicing, we want normal info (not "soon" or "when we done it").... the hell
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Anyway, lets stop offtopicing, we want normal info (not "soon" or "when we done it").... the hell
Dude, are you retard? Devs simply don't know when the new version of server application will be available, because it's not depend on them. And it is info from this topic here, but obviously you can't read or don't understand what you are reading.
Geez.
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I wait FULL WIP!)
The second day..
Addict.
-1 intelligence
-1 charisma
-1 perception
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Geez.
:o
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Guys,
There's nothing you can say that will speed the process up. It's gonna come up when it's ready for the thousandth time.
I ask you - please show them that we are a respectful and patient fanbase and start posting in other areas of the forum that will be more beneficial to the game's developmental state, such as the Suggestions board.
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Guys,
There's nothing you can say that will speed the process up. It's gonna come up when it's ready for the thousandth time.
yeah but while waiting we could spend some time here whining together. It's less boring than playing HK no ;D
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This (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_leak) is the kind of problem that causes the crashes (and account corruption, rollback). The insane lag is most probably another issue, however, finding memory leaks is a hell, and with the relatively primitive debugging methods available, it may take a long time to solve both this issues.
A wipe will solve nothing, as the issue still remains, and the crashes will come again after a few days, when sufficient amount of memory is allocated for the crash to occur (2 GB, which is the process space limit of 32-bit processes).
This is not a new issue, but it has worsened because of the amount of players playing now, compared to before the wipe. The additional features added also means that there's a larger chance that additional calls to functions which leak memory exist.
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Most of us probably dont understand truly meaning of this, and we just wanna know how much it will took (around). We understand this is hard and time-consuming work but try to understand us, we are addicted.
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True :P
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sounds awfuly serious :-[ thanks for the info.
Though I doubt it'll end the question tidal wave..
Best of luck fixing it :)
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Thanks for the info, Ghosthack!
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Wow, because engine is single-core & 32 bits orientate (?) they have quite large trouble, hardwere solution is impossible, optimization was only way :P
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Wow, because engine is single-core & 32 bits orientate (?) they have quite large trouble, hardwere solution is impossible, optimization was only way :P
It's not "single-core", it's multithreaded. It utilizes all four cores, so performance wise, it's better than before. This is not an issue about hardware.
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but something new must came up with the last update - ealier it was 1:30-2::10 server up time with save every 15 min .... but after update the save was every 1h and server were crashing every 3X min.... eitherway GL with fidning the leak it can take months ;/
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as i have been saying for some time.... automatic garbage collection is crap.
but i don't know on what language server side app was written. :(
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yeah, i would also want to wish good luck for devs :> creating good game is not easy, and if all people who are flooding in here want to play as soon as possible then its really a good game :>
keep up the good work.
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as i have been saying for some time.... automatic garbage collection is crap.
but i don't know on what language server side app was written. :(
Memory leak-> C++ mwuhaha :P
Even my teach said that pointers are evil. Hes right tbh :P
I just stick to java...
Anyways brace yourselfes people, server wont come up for a long time(i dont know, but i can well imagine) maybe even another wipe will be needed?
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Memory leak isn't only in C++.
@Ghosthack
Read PMs!
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Memory leak isn't only in C++.
@Ghosthack
Read PMs!
Ok.
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I'm a programmer, so I know what a damn work is looking for memory lack ;f Maybe even worse than segmentation fault :P
And only thing We can do is wish You good luck, be patiend and appriciate Your hard word ;)
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SERVER IS ON!!!!
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you are right but the memory leak bug has been fixed or not ???
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It was only a test, as Ghosthack said on #2238 on IRC. And it seems the issue still remains.
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just a question, memory leak bug causes server apps crash or just do rollback?
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Godspeed to the devs working to fix the server problem. I hav faith. :)
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Sweet only a small rollbak! ;D ;D
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is the server available again ? Its not turning off for a while now. Hope it isnt a test ???
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The server port is back to 2238 btw. :)
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what happen with the bos guards?
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just a question, memory leak bug causes server apps crash or just do rollback?
Memory leak causes server to crash. Crash causes the "rollback".
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Well it looks that server i working but i can conect to it. Any idea why??
Port: 2238, made upadate (there was no thing to update), i check other ports (4000 and 4040).
HELP :)
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"Wow server online, I might get productive"
Start making heaps of ammunition
Go and level 3 times
Rollback
Death
Err... I might come back later, when I don't feel like punching and breaking my screen.
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I am not sure, have I good understood that still are rollbacks?
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Well, server is up for two hours now (From 7:31 GMT+2 and it's 9:32), so I guess rollbacks are not really a problem.
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- Diminishing killing xp disabled.
Hehe, whiners Sius and Co. wins, gj. Not that I am disappointed, it's nice opportunity to test a lot of builds and so on, but the fact is remarkable :)
Well, server is up for two hours now (From 7:31 GMT+2 and it's 9:32), so I guess rollbacks are not really a problem.
Good job, Devs. Hope that rollbacks and lags gone forever :)
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As far as I've heard, server was online for five hours straight. So we are getting closer.