Funny thing about all these screens I've seen in this thread.
There are more characters offline than there are fighting. Do you fools actually consider yourselves to be winning when you have the need to have secondary characters ready to login and fight once you have died?
ZOMG epic pvp I fast logged 4 times and pwned this guy!!!!
PS. This is topic for PvP screenshots. Please stop posting nonsense and post screens/movies instead.
Go troll elsewhere, you couldn't be more useless here talking about things you don't know.
Funny thing about all these screens I've seen in this thread.
There are more characters offline than there are fighting. Do you fools actually consider yourselves to be winning when you have the need to have secondary characters ready to login and fight once you have died?
ZOMG epic pvp I fast logged 4 times and pwned this guy!!!!
Sure, right. not cheating technically, only because it is allowed. For what reasons it is allowed I'm not sure, but I can tell you that it is damn bullshit. Hey lets take out this one feature from game which kept the playing field somewhat level, and then we just allow whoever wants to have unfair advantage ability to use it.
Regardless of whatever bullshit people use to justify use of FR and Multibox, it doesn't matter. In the end they are still just a loser, with no values or self respect.
trolling? bitch please.
I'm trying to convey the truth of a matter, which is : there is no honor in cheating.
AFAIK the timer was turned off because it was bugged (was keeping random people from playing until next server restart, which could happen like a few days or even a week later). I agree that relogging sucks but the only alternative right now is bugged feature stopping random players which can be avoided by cheaters anyway.
trolling? bitch please.Gorlak please change rulez! no legal fast relog now :)!
I'm trying to convey the truth of a matter, which is : there is no honor in cheating.
So wait, nothing is done, because some of you can't technically figure out how to fix it, for these what ... eight, nine months?
For example your faction is very well known for cheating with multilogs and it is safer to cheat relog timer than multilogYup, but because of this i can say you on fly at least few ways how to fix it, was many topics where players give you good ideas. You just don't care.
youre the one who just abusing shitty feature(the sledgehammer, meele or whatever)
Jacky stop crying please. You dont have enought waves and you only cry "oh we win first fight but you make fr and go second wave and kill us"
Jacky stop crying please. You dont have enought waves and you only cry "oh we win first fight but you make fr and go second wave and kill us"Victory is only with first wave, with next waves it is just cowardice. You didnt know it?
Yup, but because of this i can say you on fly at least few ways how to fix it, was many topics where players give you good ideas. You just don't care.
Actually there hasn't been a single good suggestion how to fix limitless relogs. The most typical suggestion that people say is to return the relog timer on death, but it will be bypassed with proxy. If the proxy has bad latency, the winner will be who spawns most mercs.
Even if it is bypassed by proxy it well only be limited few who can figure it out.
T-888 So maby 2-3fr and u Have 10min cd.
Omg AhBob died while using his probably AC heavy handed/melee/whatever trollchar by some big gunner who relloged after got killed while on sneaker! It's such a tragedy since so much skill is needed to play like a melee or HtH, so lets make at least 5min. relog cooldown so ''naabfactions'' will not relog as fast as SOT does cause them noobs cannot into proxy as much as SOT for example (and some other factions which maybe got some proxies, but also got some black sheeps unable to proxy, so as a black sheep i say those FR aint that evil)
Hey Jacky, don't you know that since ages its in use that 3rd party awaits you while looting yourselves and dead enemies?
Lol bob wasn't even playing fonline when ac was useful and he's pretty anti unarmed, pull more shit out of your ass please. hth =/= troll
The only people defending fast relog is from the team who abuses it the most to win.
To Gr1m, I'd rather say everyone uses it the same, the difference is in the way & effectivity than in amount of alts he has. You know what's worse? People who cry about it even when they got tones of them. Ah, and acting like you do not support it and do not use it, wont make you any cool or ''pr0''
Fr killed tc for smaller and weaker factions. In last sesion we had cs,rouges,vsb,tttla,c88,bhh,hawks,bbs... Now small factions wont be able to tc because even if they Have more people they are less skilled and they wont be able to fight against bbs,tnb waves. Fr doesnt support noobs...pvp apes allways had advantave over noobs but now it is insain. U Have to avoid fights near grids when u attack because enemy can just spawn wave after wave.
if i need to be honest i thing totaly oppostite. stuff is way to easy to get, especially when you are playing on big group. after one week of prepareing stuff you can have enough equipment for monthsActually I expected somebody from SoT to post such thing. The richest gang on the server, thousands of everything, always the best stuff possible. Man, you probably never had to farm or craft and I'm pretty sure this post was meant to provoke others.
I farm, trade and steal every fu****g day and I don't have more stuff than one, two or three months ago. Wonder why? Maybe because I fight more often, because I die more often than you maszrum. Sometimes I lose more than I farmed and at this moment I just pass an action because I'm afraid of losing more stuff.
Actually I expected somebody from SoT to post such thing. The richest gang on the server, thousands of everything, always the best stuff possible. Man, you probably never had to farm or craft and I'm pretty sure this post was meant to provoke others.
I farm, trade and steal every fu****g day and I don't have more stuff than one, two or three months ago. Wonder why? Maybe because I fight more often, because I die more often than you maszrum. Sometimes I lose more than I farmed and at this moment I just pass an action because I'm afraid of losing more stuff.
This community is so small, I'm trying to think like a newcomer, somebody who wants to have some fun in PvP, but he can't. He needs to level at least 5 characters (combat+support) and farm, farm, farm, craft, steal, farm... until he has everything ready. Believe or not, this takes weeks or months which is absurd.
what i ment is if some team really want to be part of tc wars need to change something in their old thinking, think as whole group
what i ment is if some team really want to be part of tc wars need to change something in their old thinking, thing as wole group. obtaining stuff its not that hard if you know how to do it.We were trying to think as a whole group, it never worked in our case. At the end there is always at least one person who destroys everything. We would end up 5 people that trust each other sharing one base but what for? We need everyone to be prepared, to have more waves, stuff. In our conditions it's nearly impossible.
Once you get passed the "I" craft, farm phase and evolve into "We" craft, farm stuff, the difficulty of the game adjusts of how it was meant to be. It wasn't ever made for lone players, the game means for players to collaborate to achieve something. Players need to work together, the whole point of an MMO. There is no but or what about this subject, it's whether you understand it or not.Maybe you were just lucky and didn't accept a traitor. We weren't so lucky. And btw I think SoT had this "communism system" long time before you joined. It's very easy to join established system but come to our gang and try the same system - I'm telling you, it would be fail. Everything in this game is highly based on trust.
We did.
And the four horsemen of apocalypse road down on rainbow with their friends a unicorn and a dragon Dim and Wit. They gave SoT the builds and the resources and FR(AS IN FAST RELOG) to kill off everyone who tried to question the all mighty glorious SoT.With all respect to you Prof, did you already take your pills today?
You know I'm not crying, I'm not bitching or something. It's obvious that everybody will do everything to be the best, that's ok. Hell I don't even like winning at all cost, zero challenge means zero fun (reminds me good old times under the most powerful TTTLA alliance before we split).
TC isn't fair, never was. I understand this. What I don't understand is that in this game the rich get richer and the poor get poorer constantly. Is this some variation of Minecraft? Who crafts more, wins? Who grinds more is better pvp player? So far it seems so.
We were trying to think as a whole group, it never worked in our case. At the end there is always at least one person who destroys everything. We would end up 5 people that trust each other sharing one base but what for? We need everyone to be prepared, to have more waves, stuff. In our conditions it's nearly impossible.
And btw I think SoT had this "communism system" long time before you joined. It's very easy to join established system but come to our gang and try the same system - I'm telling you, it would be fail. Everything in this game is highly based on trust.
sometimes you have good idea but wors with exection that plan, some of your guys are totaly undisciplined. play better - loot more.
agree but i wont point with my finger who are they...today i heard from one of them "it is his decision if he will listen to you or not"...so hawks have 4-5total noobs who dont listen anyone and they run away if they see enemy...this is reason why we are loosing. hawks have many good players but small ammount of "runners" are ruining they plan.
It is very important, even if those are only 5 guys. I'd call it, actually we call it the core of team, it's the milestone of success, you can interpret that many ways, they need to be well prepared.I don't understand this line, you mean that we should go and fight with only 5 guys?
What?You don't get it. Do you remember times of TTTLA/VSB/C88/Hawks/Guardians alliance? Nobody could match us, everybody left the server, even SoT. There were no enemies, only some BHH with 1/3 of our numbers, so we had to split and fight each other (TTTLA/VSB/C88/Guardians vs. Hawks). If I had to choose between domination (victory) and pvp I will always go for pvp.
Winning at all cost is an challenge, at least should be.
I don't understand this line, you mean that we should go and fight with only 5 guys?
You don't get it. Do you remember times of TTTLA/VSB/C88/Hawks/Guardians alliance? Nobody could match us, everybody left the server, even SoT. There were no enemies, only some BHH with 1/3 of our numbers, so we had to split and fight each other (TTTLA/VSB/C88/Guardians vs. Hawks). If I had to choose between domination (victory) and pvp I will always go for pvp.
For example I will rather kill 4 enemies and then die than kill none and win a fight. Still, frag is frag :)
This is a matter of taste, though. Many people are like you, win at any cost, so yea...
No, suit the players you have the best you can, it'll improve the odds.
You just had unreasonably many players formed in one faction, no big surprise, that is really not fun, no point to play, no challenge, but i wouldn't call that victory at all cost. :)
HAHAHA, from a SOT member this kind of comment make no sens :P
Take your best 5 or 6 guys and fight 5 or 6 guys from Hawks in a fight without any merc / bomb / militia / third party / building camping / or any other SOT abuse... and I bet on a Hawks victory. I will not make the same bet in a 12 vs 12 fight....
HAHAHA, from a SOT member this kind of comment make no sens :P
Take your best 5 or 6 guys and fight 5 or 6 guys from Hawks in a fight without any merc / bomb / militia / third party / building camping / or any other SOT abuse... and I bet on a Hawks victory. I will not make the same bet in a 12 vs 12 fight....
I would actually like to see a 6 vs. 6 SoT/Hawks fight without any sort of abuse or trick, just 6 pure PVP builds.
For some reason my bet goes to Hawks.
I don't understand this line, you mean that we should go and fight with only 5 guys?
You don't get it. Do you remember times of TTTLA/VSB/C88/Hawks/Guardians alliance? Nobody could match us, everybody left the server, even SoT. There were no enemies, only some BHH with 1/3 of our numbers, so we had to split and fight each other (TTTLA/VSB/C88/Guardians vs. Hawks). If I had to choose between domination (victory) and pvp I will always go for pvp.
For example I will rather kill 4 enemies and then die than kill none and win a fight. Still, frag is frag :)
This is a matter of taste, though. Many people are like you, win at any cost, so yea...
what is all this madness!? I want to see some pics, not people raging aroundFast relog is everywhere . Start the game and make screenshots when you want pics :D
I will not bet on a 12 vs 12 because Hawks (not the Hawks alliance but the real Hawks) are not 12 that it.
Btw I can bet on 5 TTTLA vs 5 SOT (even if to find such number of Lawyer I have to take 2 who play 1 per month) to show you.
So we do that next week end mister T-888?
EDIT: Btw single video show nothing, but if you like video you can go there: http://orphans.forum-actif.net/t1300-tttla-s-projection-center-videos
I fix the link
damn i miss times when only with maniac we were kicking your whole crew (cajuns) in secound season
or times when lonly with skycast and kartowka with druged builds we were killing 10+ of you and vsb (dr.queen/sot addcited times) third season. only crazy was able to harm us ;)
you are guys blaming some stupid cheats after so many years. love this shit!
TTTLA vs SoT in a no c4 no mercs no fast relog I put my money on SoT.
Sorry TTTLA but you can only win in alliances and out numbering the other team if such features were removed
Actually last time TTTLA used mercs was some fight a few days ago or a week ago at redding with with character name mutfire.
damn i miss times when only with maniac we were kicking your whole crew (cajuns) in secound season
or times when lonly with skycast and kartowka with druged builds we were killing 10+ of you and vsb (dr.queen/sot addcited times) third season. only crazy was able to harm us ;)
still belive our CORE crew is best in game, and when our team si wining you are guys blaming some stupid cheats after so many years. love this shit! dont mention about developing new ideas in pvp, and watch other team coping us.
cant wait new season, without FR, MERCENARIES and want to see other gangs playing in first months :))
btw lemark wantreally see how we "cheating" come to our teamspeak oneday
But tttla doesn't play anymore as a gang and Mutfire is bbs character.
So you accept my challenge?
...You can stop begging for this to happen, seriously, what a joke you are. Lemark trolling, hard stuff.
So you accept my challenge?
So it makes it okay to complain about mercs when they are used on you but if your allies use them its ok and state that you are such an honorable PvP player?
Never said that, just wanted to correct some false claims.
of course, want to really see that to belive.
...Once again, nobody in our team actually likes to play muties leader or bomberman char. Of course we won't blame our allies to use them, because it has been proved that they could confer such advantages in battle, that every team have already used these. It's just the common sense !
After that, it could be good to see more battle without such tools, which spoils most of the fun. Old battle like the old time, you know ?
Btw mister T-888 this kind of comment is a good exemple why people don't take you seriously...
Just stop crying, FR, bomber, mercs are existing from the begining of the game, and we have the chance that they remove militia !Fast Relog is fine, if you have a lot of stuff and that means, that you have enough time in getting. But not for all is it possible, so for them is game just annoying on incoming waves. If you want fun game, then such, where you can easily get, reach basic equipment (metal armor, weapons, drugs) for TC/PVP. If you wanna better stuff then you have to do this nonsence as farming, stealing and next hard wasting of time. The reason why people use mercenaries is just, because they dont use enough waves as in enemy team. What was first? I guess Fast Relog.
For me FR are good, before it was something like waiting 20min on WM for a 5 min fight, now players are playing, TC are fun and longer !
Until crying make more alts !
lets do something like 5 coa vs 5 sot and we will seeWhat do you mean?
its this shit again, me so good me no fr need. me never swarm, me never cheat. all gangs that do tc, swarm,proxy,c4 bombers. no team is better then the rest.alltough some teams got more fetish for mercs/slaves then others while next team fr more. i see.many want fr gone,sure then allmost all will just proxy. and grim bbs/coa alliance aint 30 players. most often hawks are more, just sad you need so many slaves to stand a chance at winning.
i guess its rage from losing on a daily basis that has forced your team to use npcs to overwhelm other teams.
Then lets set this up. A battle of 1 wave no mercs/c4 even numbers. Maybe I get sick of shooting character1 character2 character3 character4 character5 every fight until entire team is dead.
Looks like a good opportunity for a drama, so let me ask, you nor your team do not use fast relogs, is it what you want to say, yeah? Or what's the point of whole cry? Cause dude, the same way as you must kill more waves of enemies, ''ennumies!!1'' must fight your waves