You can no longer use grenades with SD.So? you could still kill people though, a sneaker at ares rocket silo got me with 4 plasma grenades. Then he ran around and looted me, lol
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5755 that is just a sneaker I came up with, should have high AC when running around
@fettel also too low pe.
i would make 10 pe + sharpshooter. otherwise other sneakers will eat you. since sneak is nerfed the best way is to see other sneakers from max distance
i personally would go with this
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5759
eventually take nuka and jet
Oh god that HP is low.
Ghost perk has no effect over 300 sneak.They fixed it already? Last time I checked it (before these updates), I had sneak over 300%, because 10 PE saw him normally when not near wall, and less range when near wall, while there shouldn't be any difference in theory, even when wipe thread says it caps on 300 it wasn't truth. Going to check it again.
are you kidding me? its sneaker not a bg tank
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5762
now its a bg tank.
11 ap though with nuka and jet :(
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5762
now its a bg tank.
11 ap though with nuka and jet :(
Ghost perk has no effect over 300 sneak.Thats true.
wait there is a sneak pentalty if you hold a BG? i thought it's only for armor.
i personally would go with this
http://www.nitue.net/#fcp/direct!id=5759
eventually take nuka and jet
Just be honest and use a real PVP build.
AC heavy handed and sneaker trolls are the new cancer of PVP.
AC builds require skill to use properly.
i call bullshit on this. NCR idling requires WAY more skill.lol i agree. what kind of skill is needed to make a ac troll and run around. non at all!
lol i agree. what kind of skill is needed to make a ac troll and run around. non at all!
I kill people with my ac troll. You have to manage ap regen since you are always running. All it takes to counter high ac is wait until he stops and shoot. So I have to always be moving, lure people away from groups because i can only kill 1v1 and make sure i can get out of line of sight for 5 seconds between assaults. I killed 4 people in a row with leather jacket and spiked knuckles in bh yesterday, first time hth has ever been seriously viable for pvp.yes but thats not skill thats just basic troll stuff. its really not hard to manage ap,run and not stop and lure stupid people away. dont take offensively am just saying i personaly dont see trolling as a skill. everyone can troll and everyone can manage ap and run.
"real pvp builds" require numbers and shooting first.
::) bg builds are the least complicated thing possible, you shoot the guy killing him in 1-2 shots before he does enough damage to kill you. It's like saying a guy sitting in a corner in mw3 with an lmg is pro pvp player and the guy sneaking around people killing with knives is a noob. HTH is a massive disadvantage, guns are the easy choice for people with allies who just want to show up and pose.roach i understand you are a solo player and like ac trolls and all but look at it from pvps way. we farm and craft just to shoot at a bluesuit with nothing but 220 ac , then are weapons blow up or something like that and are hard work is for nothing because so some bluesuit with fuck all. i know you say hth is a disadvantage but its really not anymore. hth is currently the most op thing in this game. ac trolls are doing fucking matrix to avoid bullets and make weapons blow up. dont you think that is fucked up?
to avoid bulletsWhich is fine.
and make weapons blow up.Which ain't fine at all.
seems jinxed is broken and not high AC. to have high AC you need to use many perks, meaning you have no room for others. that is balance.
Jinxed is fine, its equally harmful to both player and attacker and takes a trait slot which is more important than perks since you can only have 2.
Of course you just make other player weapons go boom and don't risk anything yourself, in matter of fact nothing at all, not a single piece of equipment upon failure because of jinxed.Jinxed effects should be random, independent of hit misses. It's the only way to kill troll image/character of AC.
Ok jinxed causes me to lose a turn and stand there for about 5 seconds straight, instant death sentence. If you shoot while a high ac char is running thats your fault.
I'm also super vulnerable to sneakers with 1 pe.
If you think jinxed is op take 10 luck and minimize the consequences, but seriously a high ac jinxed char wants you to attack him because he has no real dmg dealing capacity.
There are no options you fail to realize, he has free scouting, virtually untouchable character and is more effective than what a sneaker was supposed to do.Its the best argument to confirm that "feature" is wrong in my opinion.
become a man and make a real pvp alt.
And the truth comes out, t-888 has no idea what he's talking about. Crit fail table is similar to vanilla fallout crit table, you have possible outcomes determined by luck and weapon equipped. 10 luck unarmed the worst thing that can happen is drop weapon/miss a turn, 1 luck you can break random limbs. for guns its 1 luck gun explodes 10 luck drop gun/lose ammo. You can find the tables on the old NMA forums.
If I invest 5/8 perks to boost ac it damn well better be powerful otherwise the build is pointless.
Just because combat annoys you doesn't make it trolling, guys camping grid in towns with miniguns is trolling too but to you its just "pvp".
As for scouting, unless the alt has only the function of running and looking he is useless for anything else and I know this may come as a surprise but scouting is a pretty integral part of war. Who even gives a shit about scouting when you can fast relog and dump whole squads in a second?
If you shoot at an ac char running you have fucked up, try using your brain and waiting for him to stop.
Without AC that char has a 100% chance of dying in one shot, hth chars take just as much time to lvl gathering gear is irrelevant. Learn to adapt your tactics its not that hard.
your a troll and such you are a child and would not get it. one day you will learn things called expressions.
Oh, and btw, how such a trivial thing like a game can determine about someone's manhood?
I don't get it -.-
your a troll and such you are a child and would not get it. one day you will learn things called expressions.Chum, you are flamin' Roachor only cus he's got different opinion than yours. Who's child here?
Chum, you are flamin' Roachor only cus he's got different opinion than yours. Who's child here?
he's not flaming, he's trying to talk some sense into him, that's all.Then he's just a pie, cus it's obvious that convincing anyone in this forum is impossible.
Then he's just stupid, cus it obvious that convincing anyone in this forum is impossible.
Then he's just stupid, cus it obvious that convincing anyone in this forum is impossible.yes am stupid to think anyone that backs up ac trolls will change their minds. trolls, trolls never change.
yes am stupid to think anyone that backs up ac trolls will change their minds. trolls, trolls never change.I'm glad that you spotted your mistake ;)
I like piewhat kind of pie?
I'm glad that you spotted your mistake ;)your the one that spotted it you can take the credit.
your the one that spotted it you can take the credit.It's a big honour for my humble person.
your the one that spotted it you can take the credit.
I like pie
But i take credit for these words, and i always have blueberry pie in my mind.I'm not surprised why. Blueberry pies are best in their kind.
I'm not surprised why. Blueberry pies are best in their kind.i must disagree sir, i must say sugar pie is the best.
what kind of pie?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EWWL3niBWY
That doesn't explain why snipers get their weapons destroyed, my sneaker has destroyed quite a few lazer pistols with 10 luck and you know what i don't see any difference in frequency between a character that has 5 luck or 10, you can keep yapping how you know it all from some old NMA forums witch you haven't tested if it works in 2238 as it's written on random forums, you just assume it's like that based on old information. The fact that 10 luck characters get their weapons destroyed makes your provided information obsolete.
The truth comes out that your just a loner that doesn't have anything else to do just to make other game play experience miserable, so you are defending a dumb feature so you can keep on having your pathetic little spree of fun.
The build is pointless anyway, just an annoyance, troll characters. Being annoying is what you can do with it.
Now you are going to tell me, what is combat? Listen, i advise you to not embarrass yourself even further, because running around like a moron isn't combat hoping something will happen and you abuse the fact that you can't get hit and that doesn't involve killing someone, rather taking some loot and running away like a hero, basically trolling.
Hello stranger, new in town?
This is some loner who is telling me how scouting is important, and then telling me that who gives a shit about scouting.
He doesn't stop, he runs forever until he can fetch some loot from an existing fight and provide information almost without any risk of being killed.
Gear is irrelevant how? Noob, your telling me that hth characters take as much time as other builds to level up and that should make them powerful without gear? Friggin logic win. There is no tactics, there is just some moron running around.
I usually avoid using the term noob, but seriously you are just a noob that lacks common sense, literally nobody agrees with you but you still keep yapping about skill, loner.
Note to self: don't feed the troll anymore.
1. Atom confirmed the tables and sent me the jinxed tables, they haven't been changed. Your lack of knowledge isn't an argument. Btw energy pistols explode because energy has the worst crit table. Most tables have weapon destroyed as worst tier to land on, energy has weapon destroyed and weapon explodes hurting player.
2. TC is not fonline, the majority of players have nothing to do with it.
3. I've been playing this game for three years, I've made dozens of builds every wipe and have in-depth understanding of the game mechanics. You are a pvp ape that only knows standing still with a minigun waiting for people to come in range.
4. Most players are loners, some people (pussies) need friends to protect them when the fighting starts and save their gear. 1v1 combat takes skill, swarming just takes numbers. I've been in almost every major faction at some point or another, I chose to play solo because the people who still play this game are mostly assholes and I'm more efficient without other people's drama. I'd rather be Rambo then a generic henchman.
5. Everyone is annoyed when they get killed by someone else. You think people aren't annoyed when some dbag with metal and a minigun bursts them? If getting killed by hth is such a problem for you maybe stop crying into your purse in the forums and find a less hard game. A troll isn't defined as every player you can't one shot. Btw your response would look a lot less childish if you used less insults and actually came up with an argument other than big gun always wins.
I smell Lexx, Surf, or JovankaB around here...
does it matter?