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[Phallus Erectus]

I understand the wait for skills, but the wait to gather and craft is simply annoying. I'd really like to know why this is implemented. A thing I hate with MMOs is the amount of time you must waste. This game isn't so bad with this except with the mentioned waiting times. Other MMOs make you waste your time needlessly because you're probably paying them per month.

[John Ryder]

I see no point in them either. First you have to gather materials and because of cooldown it takes longer than it should because you have to wait to be able to pickup junk from the ground. When you are finally done with gathering and endless clicks to turn ore and minerals into something useful, after creating for example 300 ammo you have to wait again an hour. Like all the time wasted on gathering materials wasn't enough. If you have materials - you should be able to turn them into a product, gathering takes long enough. And seriously cooldowns don't stop anyone from getting super-rich or having shitloads of armors. It will happen no matter how long cooldowns will be.

[avv]

I don't get it. When under crafting&gathering cooldown I do something else. Like hunt encounters, go caving, go sell stuff in new reno or gordon's, attempt some vs encounter lifting. There's plenty to do, unless you play as crafting alt.

[John Ryder]

Gathering cooldown is 20 minutes, that is the time to go from NCR to Hub and back for average character. And anyway, when I gather materials to craft I obviously want to focus on crafting for next hour, not on hunting. I gather mats and want to have the job done, not interrupt it with doing other shit.

[avv]

Gathering cooldown is 20 minutes, that is the time to go from NCR to Hub and back for average character. And anyway, when I gather materials to craft I obviously want to focus on crafting for next hour, not on hunting. I gather mats and want to have the job done, not interrupt it with doing other shit.

Then it's a matter of taste. I personally find pure crafting revolting because it is so repetitive and unsurprising.

We could draw a conclusion that it's bad feature that gathering is a standalone activity. It would be much better if gathering and pve/pvp was combined so that you go fight somewhere and gather what you need from the area, then return home to restock and craft.

But still it smells like someone is annoyed because his crafting alt can't do anything but craft and that's why cooldowns seem overwhelmingly boring.

[TheGreenHand]

I suppose it needs to be implemented for some things more than others, but you have to make it the same way for everything.  I mean, what if people could go into an unguarded mine and grab 30 HQ ore?  Then drop at the tent and repeat?  That'd be pretty wild.  I don't know if I'd like that.

[Surf]

It's there to emulate the time it takes to create item XY. The system is fine, only the cooldown length can be a bit shortened for certain items in my humble opinion. If you just craft craft craft and stand in your base and wait the for the cooldown to go *poof* then it is your problem if you don't fill the time with something other.

[Blackeyed]

since i only see posts by those who don t approve of cooldowns, i m posting to say i think they make perfect sense, since things do take time to b gathered and produced. it s a way to prevent that style of playing which is based on mindless hoarding of resources, products and ultimately, money.

[TheGreenHand]

since i only see posts by those who don t approve of cooldowns, i m posting to say i think they make perfect sense, since things do take time to b gathered and produced. it s a way to prevent that style of playing which is based on mindless hoarding of resources, products and ultimately, money.

In case my post was unclear (as I  reread it, I see that it may be), I also agree that cooldowns make sense.  A team of two could churn out CAs like they were going out of style.  Cooldowns make the game better.

[Ayuta]

just lets see how many people play this game, every day less and less, everything takes too much time
The most important thing its not a part time job. I want to have some fun when i play this game and all i have isl colldown here cooldown there dig this ore, use a knife 100000 times on a table just to get 1000000 meat, people i dont say that high tier stuff supposed to be easy to get, what i mean is let people have fun when they play this game, unless u want to have 50 players on the server who dont have anything better to do
also dropping number of players says that something is wrong and someone supposed to rethink his job

[Wichura]

just lets see how many people play this game, every day less and less, everything takes too much time

Do yourself a favor and leave. All I see in your posts is complaining, whining and so on. What's the point? It's not criticism, it's bullshitism - criticism comes with solutions and/or conclusions.

also dropping number of players says that something is wrong and someone supposed to rethink his job

Dropping number of players can be caused by many things - holidays are off, many people have their work to do and earn real caps, some dudes achieved all they wanted (amount of caps, bases, cars, goodies, minigun carpets, whatever), also many people simply quit because of mindless yetis playing this like yet-another shooter, without "Impressive" mark after combo kill however.
And of course there are people who got bored all these "cooldowns" and left too. But this is only one of many causes.

[Ayuta]

and who says that ? a guy who has been entering caravan encounters 30 times in a row just to use science on a few armors, u are the last person who could give any advices and yes its "criticism" i said that game, is not fun and thas why people dont play it anymore

[Wichura]

I'm impressed you still remember that, it was two wipes ago. Did I disassemble you something precious and that made you cry? :>

Anyway "fun" has different meaning to different people. If we are speaking about waiting, which is unfortunately a big part of game, then yes, I can agree it's not fun or even funny. Watching YouTube crap while repairing stuff for example is far from having "fun" in game, but I can see a progress - wipe ago you could dig 5 pieces of minerals/ore every 6 minutes, before that every 12, and this time wasn't stackable. How it looks now, everybody knows.
Let's be patient, shall we? Complaining and whining doesn't help a lot.

[Ayuta]

I'm impressed you still remember that, it was two wipes ago. Did I disassemble you something precious and that made you cry? :>

Anyway "fun" has different meaning to different people. If we are speaking about waiting, which is unfortunately a big part of game, then yes, I can agree it's not fun or even funny. Watching YouTube crap while repairing stuff for example is far from having "fun" in game, but I can see a progress - wipe ago you could dig 5 pieces of minerals/ore every 6 minutes, before that every 12, and this time wasn't stackable. How it looks now, everybody knows.
Let's be patient, shall we? Complaining and whining doesn't help a lot.

lol it help, thx to so called complaining people, i would say people who see mistakes and would like to have 'em fixed, u have these new crafting cooldowns, dude u dont help all u do is high tech trolling, at the same time u are really good at it

[Wichura]

Did you find any bug recently and post it somewhere? Even a map hole or whatever. I mean you are beta tester, like we all are, right?

"High tech trolling", I really like it :>