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Author Topic: Sneak vs Sniper  (Read 13371 times)

Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #30 on: June 17, 2010, 07:12:59 pm »

With 10 PE, you will see 300% sneak char 45 hexes far from you if he is coming from front, 30 hexes if he is coming front-side, 15 hexes from back-side and 3 hexes from back. So, what overpower are you talking about?

lol those are old stats on the wiki, my 300 sneak char is a ghost past 3 hex
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #31 on: June 17, 2010, 08:10:19 pm »

i really dont mind sneaking, and i dont mind grenades. But when put togheter there is really no defense against them.
I fought countless pks using sneak to get in range, then owning me.
Dont get me wrong, i dont mind getting owned either, i died and lost fortunes to pking - such is the hazard, and i embrace it.

But it's no fun getting killed by grenades. You spend all your combat time on your back, cannot run or shoot back, unless in combat armor.
I have 8 PE on my sniper and i NEVER, repet NEVER spotted a grenadier at any range. I even ran around in circles to scan all the area when i knew there was such a dude around, to no avail.

So i do not dispute what you are saying, that sneak is fine and shouldn't be nerfed. But there seems to be a faulty mechanic at work here if i cannot spot the dude that i SHOULD spot. Bug/exploit? Dunno, but it seems im not the only one.
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2010, 08:18:21 pm »

300% sneak from the front is 225%. 225%/6 = 37.5 taken away from view. Pe 10 is normally 50 hex viewing range, so Pe 10 seeing a 300% Sneak char from the front @ 12.5 hexes
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2010, 08:24:03 pm »

300% sneak from the front is 225%. 225%/6 = 37.5 taken away from view. Pe 10 is normally 50 hex viewing range, so Pe 10 seeing a 300% Sneak char from the front @ 12.5 hexes

Like the range of grenade is 15, it mean you see him too late, even from front with 10PE ;p
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #34 on: June 17, 2010, 08:39:18 pm »

I see nothing wrong with being able to get into Gren range with 300% sneak and wearing no armour. (I still don't like 2 AP knockdowns, but its nothing to do with sneak)
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2010, 08:51:05 pm »

I am starting to think that there is something wrong with me, cause a few guys here, don't seem to understand SIMPLE words. Almost perfect build, 8 EN, 10 PE, 10LK, 2xToughness, Lifegiver, Better Critical and 3XMore Critical, I have fought and won most of the pvp i have encounter no matter what builds, this is not a weak build so stop with the bullshit. In almost 100 pvp with those guys i never won!!! The time i got to shoot them after i spoot them is less than they need to kill me! That can't be with 10 PE!

I know there are a few guys here that try to protect their overpowered builds, but things don't make sense... Also, i've seen a lot of BGs that were killed by these guys, is almost the same thing. They need to shoot them 2-3 times to kill them, and they don't have enough time. Today a guy with sneak and grenades killed three of us. He was just throwing grenades like crazy, a friend burst him three times with a LSW and nothing. This is OVERPOWERED, there is no balance in those builds. The scary thing is we could all do this builds and that would spoil the game.

And I don't care if someone is a faction leader or a noob, if he tells me those guys are not so hard to kill, either is crazy or he has no ideea what is he talking about!

LE: i am not saying either that sneak should be changed, i am saying that PE should be changed. if someone puts 10 PE that should really affect the chances of spotting a sneaked character. it's simple logic. and, of course, the plasma grenade do extremly high damage, where is the logic that it costs so few AP? I don''t get it.

« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 08:58:14 pm by zuhardu »
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2010, 08:55:59 pm »

It's just that... 2AP for throwing a grenade... Heh.
Throwing 5 grenades in a row ? Even more heh.
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2010, 08:58:15 pm »

Hm, Plasmas dont even have knockback, pfft.
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2010, 09:02:12 pm »

Grenade should be one of the weapons requiring the max AP to throw, and dealing high dmg.
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2010, 09:07:23 pm »

Yes, plasma don't do knockback and you know why? Cause they don't need to. Read this: 1,2,3,4 - you just died! What's so hard to understand?
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2010, 09:22:32 pm »

I agree with Izual!
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2010, 09:23:06 pm »

I agree with Izual.
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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2010, 09:24:01 pm »

I agree with Yri Izual!
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2010, 09:24:51 pm »

I agree with Izual.
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Re: Sneak vs Sniper
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2010, 09:26:29 pm »

I agree with Izual.
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