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PvP constitution proposal vote
avv:
--- Quote from: Johnny Nuclear on May 08, 2010, 10:58:45 am ---is this RL or fallout ?, i belive that in 2077 were advanceed light , hard set and tough alloys and high technologies which allowed to make portable machine guns and miniguns, we are still in fallout.
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But because in fallouts miniguns were later game weapons they are obviously more powerful than most small guns, rendering many potential small gun useless in fonline. Besides, we already voted for gun balance, there's no reason to argue for it again. Where were you when we were discussing whether or not guns should be balanced?
Johnny Nuclear:
energy weapons and sniper rifles were later in game too,
i was here :) but i thought this is only next lordus's try how to nerf bigguners, which could be closed soon , well i thought wrong.
Josefista:
--- Quote from: Johnny Nuclear on May 08, 2010, 10:58:45 am ---is this RL or fallout ?, i belive that in 2077 were advanceed light , hard set and tough alloys and high technologies which allowed to make portable machine guns and miniguns, we are still in fallout.
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yes and Minigun is still 5 x bigger than shotgun. In buildings will always rule small guns such as smgs/pistols/shotguns. Machine guns were always been just covering weapons. Seems I should take your "Rockwell gold card" out of you ;)
This is very good topic btw, hope it will be implemented as fast as possible and we get balanced fights full of dmfferent chars. Only with your graf we have so much possibilities there. Shotguns, smgs, assault riffles and others will be useable! GJ
EDIT: Lordus is not natural sniper, hes objective inhere
Johnny Nuclear:
i just hope this will be sg=eg=bg and not sg=eg>bg. well..... I recognize that resistance is futile. [/resistance]
*just took his avenger and left*
Sius:
--- Quote from: Johnny Nuclear on May 08, 2010, 12:19:55 pm ---i just hope this will be sg=eg=bg and not sg=eg>bg. well..... I recognize that resistance is futile. [/resistance]
*just took his avenger and left*
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Balance is what we seek. No one is trying to boost his favorite weapon class. And if there should be any pattern for guns then it should be SG>(BG=EG). But not in matter of dmg or things like that but in general accessibility of weapons. I mean literary everyone should be able to fight with decent dmg output and SGs should become something common among players. Now its sg/bg/eg or no gun. I think no gunners should turn into small gunners with basic weapon knowledge. Sure I don't want to turn crafter into serial instakill sniper but everyone should be able to defend himself effectively no matter what build he rolls. Now when you take 20 average build guys and crafters from NCR and close them in small room with 4 guys from north then there are small chances that crafters will kill at least 2 powerbuilders. Most of the players in NCR never used gun on something more lethal than molerat and that should change. Thats the problem that causes creaters alts, powerbuilders, powercrafters and all that shit what should never exist in this game... You either choose to PvE or PvP and develop your character that way but you should be always capable of decent combat even if you roll hippie kind of character.
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