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Future pvp theme
iicca:
--- Quote from: Sius on April 18, 2010, 08:49:50 PM ---At that point main character should be even half year work for regular players and everyone will think twice if he chooses low charisma. But not allowing player who chooses that way to play with others is insanity and defies whole MMO purpose.
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I think this is one of the best things in fallout. the way you make your character affects the way you play. Making the game more easy and unfalloutish isn't he right way to go. If you are ugly you are better at something but you lack social skills. Making the fonline more gamey makes it lose its immersion. Roleplaying before anything else.
--- Quote from: Sius on April 18, 2010, 08:49:50 PM ---I mean don't look at the game at its current stage.
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How do you think game could be improved if you dont look at it at its current stage?
Frosti:
Well lots of people ( 100~150 I think) want to keep FOnline as it is - oldschool PvP mmorpg where you kill players in 1-2 shots and loot all thier items.
And there are other people who want something like Fallout 2 but as an mmorpg. Devs are going in way of keeping FOnline as an oldschool PvP mmorpg so there is nothing to try to change here for second group of people. Gotta learn Angel Script and make 3rd Fallout Online version maybe?
iicca:
--- Quote from: Frosti on April 18, 2010, 09:10:05 PM ---Well lots of people ( 100~150 I think) want to keep FOnline as it is - oldschool PvP mmorpg where you kill players in 1-2 shots and loot all thier items.
And there are other people who want something like Fallout 2 but as an mmorpg.
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Amen
Badger:
--- Quote from: Frosti on April 18, 2010, 09:10:05 PM ---And there are other people who want something like Fallout 2 but as an mmorpg.
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Yeah, this is what I've always wanted. I just want to put on a leather jacket, pick up a shotgun and go on quests with a few buddies.
avv:
Hey guys our pvp system should be flexible enough so that it doesn't matter if you didn't put 1 or 3 extra points in certain stat. Stats would only determine your most likely fighting style and profesion, not how powerful you are. Your effectivity should depend mostly of your skills to use the tools given to you.
If cha absolutely has to be included in pvp, then why not have a leader type of build. We already got perks like presence which improve your teammate's rolls around you (except i doubt if it works properly). There could be more perks like that, but their effect on your teammates would depend on their charisma as well. So if you're a cha1 dude led by cha10 dude with all leading related perks, you get only small bonus because your char is incapable of teamwork. However cha5 dude would get much bigger benefit from his leader's perks.
Or for example certain cha and Pe combination would unlock a good perk which would be very important for teamwork. It could be "spotter" which means that your teammates could see when an enemy appears within your FoV. It would be invaluable in team vs team.
--- Quote from: iicca on April 18, 2010, 08:31:39 PM ---Crafters could have benefit in pvp from special weapons usable by only crafters.
Armorcrafter. Power armor. seriously. only usable by armor crafter. He is pretty much deadmeat with armorcrafting 3, but with power armor he could actually be viable tank in pvp. Why wouldnt anyone else be able to use power armor? Becouse armorcrafters get special training for it. They study the secrets of Power armor and are the only ones smart enuff to use it.
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This has some point in it, but.
What about the dudes who choose profesions like smallguns 2 and armorer 2? Or guys who just don't take any profesion but don't make a powerbuild either?
Pvp effectivity needs less direct relation to character build and more connection to player's invidual skill so that a player who isn't pvp powerbuild can still do fine if he knows how to play.
--- Quote from: Badger on April 18, 2010, 10:01:12 PM ---Yeah, this is what I've always wanted. I just want to put on a leather jacket, pick up a shotgun and go on quests with a few buddies.
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You mean shoot children in the eyes with turbo plasmarifle while wearing advanced powerarmor and being under various drug addictions?
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