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Author Topic: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless  (Read 29684 times)

Bulldog

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(report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« on: April 12, 2010, 07:04:12 pm »

So that's the topic basicly, they are useless even after the burst fix, reasons for that are that they have the lowest range in game having quite a low damage output, 30-60 damage from pankor VS a 40% DR 6 DT armored unit, maybe since it has such a small range it should be more versityle? Shells are useless, maybe some -DR or a dmg multiplyer could solve the problem?

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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2010, 07:06:24 pm »

I agree that they are pretty weak at the moment and could be  better, especially the "high tier" ones (Pancor Jackhammer, Combat Jackhammer)..

Would be nice to see some more variety...

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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2010, 07:15:13 pm »

combat jackhammer? you don't mean CAWS by any chance? ::)
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2010, 07:47:23 pm »

Shotguns don't need to be useful for PvP. They're quite good for PvE on low levels. You get a nice +to_hit and they are in every shop.
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 07:53:01 pm »

We're not speaking about simple shotguns people use to kill scorps and gekos, we're speaking about high tier gear
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 08:05:28 pm »

Woops, no, I've ment the Pancor Jackhammer (is this even ingame?) and the Combat Shotgun. ;)
Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 08:06:27 pm »

Sorry for assuming by "shotgun" you meant "combat shotgun, CAWS, Pancor" and not the weapon that is named "shotgun".
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 08:13:34 pm »

Sorry for assuming by "shotgun" you meant "combat shotgun, CAWS, Pancor" and not the weapon that is named "shotgun".

I was referring to gordulan, because he pointed out that I misspelled something in my other post.
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EDIT: Alright, misunderstood again, I'm retarded.  ;D
Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2010, 09:30:23 pm »

Yes higher tear ones need little more to them. Maybe chance to knock down. I don't know something because they kind weak for that tier. Also the saw-off shot guns need to be change. I think they should hardly ever miss even if you got no skill with small guns. The shot gun range was less down to 7 and in description says it saw off to have wide spread hit.
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2010, 10:45:24 pm »

Wait, wait, wait! As I remember before wipe, on nma forum people was arguing betwen: that weapons are weak and some others about leak of realism. I see this that way, you like PvP so you are using rifles on long distance and shotguns on almost-HtH distance.
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2010, 10:45:51 pm »

Shotguns should have knockback ability. That's all. =(
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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2010, 10:49:42 pm »

Shotguns should have knockback ability. That's all. =(

Agreed.
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2010, 11:17:07 pm »

yep, this is very old ..and good idea
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Re: (report) shotguns in pvp-useless
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2010, 11:30:39 pm »

Yeah I can already see everyone wearing shotgun just to make others moonwalk and then burst their asses to ashes with main weap. Some weapons should have special effects but its hard to introduce anything into FOnline because its not regular mmo. You add knockback effect and you can count on exploits like 5 guys will stuck NPCs with shotguns and others will snipe them from safety etc...

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2010, 11:32:18 pm »

Well, knockback is just that you're on the floor but recovering really quickly after it. It's a great feature. Working with a lot of AP and only with "Burst" (The shotgun burst), then it would be good.
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