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[Solar]

Maths > Ranting over subjective opinions. Always has, always will.

I will be playing as soon as my computer decides it wants to be nice, though I won't be playing it purely to PvP on town maps. If I PvP it will probably be to kill people on hq maps

Diminishing xp was brought in to stop people levelling purely on easy things to kill (floaters, centaurs). The only thing wrong with it is not enough catagories yet and weird base xp for critters.

[Winston Wolf]

I guess we have to wait until we are able to gain most of the EXP by making quests. Making the raiders quest was one of the best moments so far, because you realy had the feeling that you are playing Fallout. Combined with the crafting system I expect a very good game in the future. Till now I have to agree with the others: FOnline is pretty boring at the moment. But I'm patient, I bet it's getting more exciting from week to week.

[virus341]

The only thing wrong with it is not enough catagories yet and weird base xp for critters.

Adding more catagories would be awesome. For now, if you were not smart enough and killed those small scorpions and little rats at first levels, you wil suffer from diminishing hard after 5-6 lvl. Rats and mutated molerates are in the same group as Ive noticed, its pain.

[Solar]

Yup, but, as I understand it, its a technical issue with making that work at the moment. So we must wait

[Heckler Spray]

I have a suggestion for PvP gangs to obtain some stuff : instead of hoard the amount of loot you get from the fights, sell it to the traders, barter it with players...
I don't really see the point in piling tons of CAs, miniguns, LSW... that you 'll never use.
Same with the amount of caps you get from town control and you compile in your base.
I know it's not the ultimate solution of your "problem".
And if you don't want to wait in your base/mine, you should go for a hunting party with your friends in the desert with shitty weapons, it's better than nothing.

[Kilgore]

I have a suggestion for PvP gangs to obtain some stuff : instead of hoard the amount of loot you get from the fights, sell it to the traders, barter it with players...
I don't really see the point in piling tons of CAs, miniguns, LSW... that you 'll never use.
Same with the amount of caps you get from town control and you compile in your base.
I know it's not the ultimate solution of your "problem".
And if you don't want to wait in your base/mine, you should go for a hunting party with your friends in the desert with shitty weapons, it's better than nothing.

I don't know how to obtain any items by selling loot (which is mostly composed of things you are using) to traders - also, sell for what? Caps? They rarely have any. Also, piling tons of CAs and miniguns and LSWs is some kind of myth made by non-PvPers, as this equipment is used in the fights and to be viable, every team needs to maintain its supplies.
Also, I don't see any point in forcing players to go hunt scorps from boredom. Yeah, I know that everyone is free to ragequit, but is that what devs want? Players quitting their game? So weird

[Solar]

So, if we have

-Dropping crafting timeouts
-Creating more PvP areas, at which most players will venture at one point or the other
-Easier traders (to spend TC at, was where I was actually hinting towards)

As bonuses to PP players ... weighed up against fixing FA xp abusing being fixed.


Don't see why there is whine, can anyone actually explain it with some kind of supporting evidence?

[Sius]

Don't see why there is whine, can anyone actually explain it with some kind of supporting evidence?

Play the game as PvP build and try to make your living... you will get your evidence that game has BECAME boring every single hour you will spend leveling up.

[RavenousRat]

Play the game as PvP build and try to make your living... you will get your evidence that game has BECAME boring every single hour you will spend leveling up.

Don't hurry with leveling, but waiting with getting items.. no... I'm so sorry, I lied about getting sniper rifle in 15 minutes by 10 people, because I just now got 1 sniper rifle alone for like 10-15 minutes (most of time lagging, so without lags on 2-3 minutes faster... and... I'm not SG3 prof, and don't even need it)... 10-15 minutes... alone, if you're in a faction of 10 people (any level, even 1, only 1 guy of 10 must have some skills) you'll make sniper rifle/2 minutes. Again, don't know about BG/EW, but I don't think it'll have huge difference, I mean, not 1 gun/hour, it'll be max 1 gun/5 min, if it's very very very cool gun. This game getting boring, 'cause of easy-to-get items... I'm not even afraid to lose all equipment, because I'll make it fast again ;p
But... it's only for non-faction players, but... what if every faction player will work like 10 non-faction players at the same time, so.. you should find other way how to get your gear. ;p

[LeMark]

So, if we have

-Dropping crafting timeouts
-Creating more PvP areas, at which most players will venture at one point or the other
-Easier traders (to spend TC at, was where I was actually hinting towards)

As bonuses to PP players ... weighed up against fixing FA xp abusing being fixed.


Don't see why there is whine, can anyone actually explain it with some kind of supporting evidence?

We want a way to level up a full pvp without charisma/crafting lvl. I understand you need more time to add some new mobs, but for now we kill everything X 15 and we don’t get 20% of the exp needed for  lvl 21. Maybe you can remove the depressive xp until you add new mobs?

[LeMark]

Don't hurry with leveling, but waiting with getting items.. no... I'm so sorry, I lied about getting sniper rifle in 15 minutes by 10 people, because I just now got 1 sniper rifle alone for like 10-15 minutes (most of time lagging, so without lags on 2-3 minutes faster... and... I'm not SG3 prof, and don't even need it)... 10-15 minutes... alone, if you're in a faction of 10 people (any level, even 1, only 1 guy of 10 must have some skills) you'll make sniper rifle/2 minutes. Again, don't know about BG/EW, but I don't think it'll have huge difference, I mean, not 1 gun/hour, it'll be max 1 gun/5 min, if it's very very very cool gun. This game getting boring, 'cause of easy-to-get items... I'm not even afraid to lose all equipment, because I'll make it fast again ;p
But... it's only for non-faction players, but... what if every faction player will work like 10 non-faction players at the same time, so.. you should find other way how to get your gear. ;p

Dude can you stop to try to explain us how to play, we know all your tweak, but this is not the way we like to play so play like you want and stop pissing me off by trying to show us YOUR way!

[vedaras]

We want a way to level up a full pvp without charisma/crafting lvl. I understand you need more time to add some new mobs, but for now we kill everything X 15 and we don’t get 20% of the exp needed for  lvl 21. Maybe you can remove the depressive xp until you add new mobs?

i havent killed all critters x12 and i have 18 lvl already, if you are so poor in getting exp for killing try mentats and doing quests, its very cheap now anyway.

[Attero]

I dont know wtf is this about devs this supposed to be positive thread i think you should delete all whine posts ...

some seem to think that crafting was made harder ... woot ? ah your nice bot script doenst work anymore ? so sad .....

by fucks sake i dont have real f idea what those people want ... one thing that every single one wants something else .. another thing is that even single players sometimes seem to not knwo what they want?

ARe you agaisnt fool loot ? FOnine cant have progresive gear like normaly MMOs have so there is need to be way for you to lose stuff +its funnier to PvP when you actually gain/lose something in it.

Crafting takes too long  ... there is need for balance in it - the faster you can make it the lower value it has. It wouldnt be realy good if everone could run around in their best stuff not rly worring if they lose it.

Leveling up slow ? wel for beta i might be slow but in fact is not that slow, the more problem here i would say is that you need to eat loooads of ammo to get the final levels ..... but personaly i think its fine .... if you will start enjoying the game rather then "i must get ot 21 i must get ot 21 i must get to 21" it turns out to be much better. (try some eastern mmo to see what slow leveling is)

I dont know what to add .....
you dont like it dont play it ...
you think stuff can be changed ? ok go and make some nice suggestions  and put them in suggestions foum (and note here even if your changes will be liked and devs will like them they probably wont make it in before next wipe) .
BUT FUCKING STOP THE WHINE

[Sephiroth-sama]

Okay, I halt reading on the sixth page, still I NEED to say something here.

I don't really know how to express my feeling... I guess I'll have to think my words.
Yes, the devs are putting their work on it. We can't expect to have a perfect game in a few months, and for the OP, I think you already knew what where the devs expectation of a fallout release: a enjoyable game. That's what we all want. It's a GAME, it's supposed to be fun. There are some issues to be balanced, and to be improved, but that's what the devs are doing. When the game is good enough they will release it, no ETA, simple as that.
And keep in mind that Fallout is NOT A GAME OF EVERY TASTE, you CAN'T expect it to be "like this or like that", the game is as it is. If you like it, you play, if you don't, don't you expect the game to fit your needs, the game must fit you as it is. They will not change the whole concept of wasteland, because they don't need/want this kind of public. There are people who are wanting a complete different game, and that's not gonna happen.

But what I'm really feeling and talking about, is... I think it's frustration. But I don't really know.
Every time I read RavenousRat's posts I get a little bit unmotivated. Since this forum didn't even exist, but were a subforum on NMA. He don't play for enjoyment. He is hardcore, I mean, he really don't have a life.
I'm not criticizing him, there are people who do this in every game, and FOnline is no exception, but hell, he already discovered a fucking unbalancing bug. How can someone expect that I will keep playing if people are getting unfair advantage? He is always abusing from bugs, since I first put my eyes on any post of him he says he abuse from a bug.

Yes, bugs need fix, but fuck, why are they always so unbalancing?

I won't play FOnline since I discover "RavenousRat teachings of how to play abusing of bugs and without crafting at all".

[RavenousRat]

Leveling up slow ? wel for beta i might be slow but in fact is not that slow, the more problem here i would say is that you need to eat loooads of ammo to get the final levels ..... but personaly i think its fine .... if you will start enjoying the game rather then "i must get ot 21 i must get ot 21 i must get to 21" it turns out to be much better.

Exactly. Getting 21st level must be something really really hard. Because if you got max. of something, that means you ended this game, so everyone start to create alts, so they'll have alot 21st lvled alts. If you want to get 21st level, you must focus on your the only character and (when it'll be in non-beta stage) get your 21st level not in month, or even faster, you must get it in like a year or something. Because you must always have something to achieve, getting 21st level = you don't have anything to achieve.




Edit:

Okay, I halt reading on the sixth page, still I NEED to say something here.

I don't really know how to express my feeling... I guess I'll have to think my words.
Yes, the devs are putting their work on it. We can't expect to have a perfect game in a few months, and for the OP, I think you already knew what where the devs expectation of a fallout release: a enjoyable game. That's what we all want. It's a GAME, it's supposed to be fun. There are some issues to be balanced, and to be improved, but that's what the devs are doing. When the game is good enough they will release it, no ETA, simple as that.
And keep in mind that Fallout is NOT A GAME OF EVERY TASTE, you CAN'T expect it to be "like this or like that", the game is as it is. If you like it, you play, if you don't, don't you expect the game to fit your needs, the game must fit you as it is. They will not change the whole concept of wasteland, because they don't need/want this kind of public. There are people who are wanting a complete different game, and that's not gonna happen.

But what I'm really feeling and talking about, is... I think it's frustration. But I don't really know.
Every time I read RavenousRat's posts I get a little bit unmotivated. Since this forum didn't even exist, but were a subforum on NMA. He don't play for enjoyment. He is hardcore, I mean, he really don't have a life.
I'm not criticizing him, there are people who do this in every game, and FOnline is no exception, but hell, he already discovered a fucking unbalancing bug. How can someone expect that I will keep playing if people are getting unfair advantage? He is always abusing from bugs, since I first put my eyes on any post of him he says he abuse from a bug.

Yes, bugs need fix, but fuck, why are they always so unbalancing?

I won't play FOnline since I discover "RavenousRat teachings of how to play abusing of bugs and without crafting at all".

Oo? I'm hardcorer? Wtf? I just said that you don't need to be a crafter and wait 3485734985 hours to get your gear, that's all. But... I'm crafter, because I don't want to start new character, I created him instantly after wipe, and didn't create any other character. Also I'm not hardcorer, because my character isn't PvPer or focusing on something. I playing this game only, because of Fallout 1/2, nothing more. If I didn't know what is it, I've never wanted to play FOnline.
Then abuse...abuse...abuse, btw, this is not a bug, just... hmmm... you ALL can do that, simply don't see that, and devs made it normal to do, simply they missed something, or, may be it's even normal? Anyway, even if I'm an abuser, I don't use it bad aims, I simply buying 10 brahmins hides sometimes for 1k and giving to bluesuiter, or giving items to other people, so I helping people who has NOTHING. Yes, I have CA+sniper rifle for almost "nothing", but I don't want to do that, that's why I explained everything by PMing dev and asked to solve this problem. Don't worry, I don't use it everytime/always, most of time I staying in NCR in combat armor and sniper rifle and buying brahmins hides/giving items to people. Also each time when someone asks me "how you making this", I answering "you shouldn't know about this ;p" So it's np, I'm not abuser or hardcorer, I just want to play this game as it is.