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[Vanessa]

Wow, wtf? Just spotted this one - Flamer, Metal parts, Junk, wood ?ALLOYS?
WTF? Flamer is the worst big gun and now you make it totaly unusable for my Doc/FA and big guns char. I am freaking doomed! how the hell am I meant now to kill those bandits? Will I have to make a new char again?

EDIT: Doctor always has been unfair looking to the low EXP gain ofr crafting. Like would you look at that. An armorer gets 2k EXP for some shitty armor but a doctor for making like 10 stimpaks give you less then 1k EXP. 7 minutes for broc flower? WTF? Doctor is WAY too underpowered unless he is in a faction, with someone who gives him all the stuff needed.

Gee it's too bad you have to join Vault City just to make your tier 3 drugs, am I right?

Yes, I am the only doctor in my gang and they are all laughing at how shitty Doctors get treated...

Also, yeah alloys for flamers is a bit steep, they're only usable in PvE and most people don't even use them for that.

[bikkebakke]

How come I cant log in right now :/ It says It's the wrong username/password but they for damned sure aint wrong.

[Quentin Lang]

WTF? Flamer is the worst big gun and now you make it totaly unusable for my Doc/FA and big guns char. I am freaking doomed! how the hell am I meant now to kill those bandits? Will I have to make a new char again?

All i can say is that, sorry, you're a noob. I find flamer the best PVE weapon due to its low costs and easy ammo. So far, ive shot like 3 or 5 rockets, no minigun bursts, 5 or 7 m60 shots and around 500 flamer shots. Maybe even over 600, no idea, lost the count days ago.

[tiko13]

I guess today/tomorrow the Grease Gun too will be only for lvl2 SG, requiring 2-3 HQA...  making SG 1st stage utterly useless...

Energy stage 1 is useless too.

[Uzaykeki]

now its harder then ever for sg crafters. hq ores and hq minerals are not obtainable cuz some pk shit killin us at mining areas
look my character isnt combat based Im a goddamn crafter and how can I obtain hq minerals and hq ores?
I need some combat skills to get it cuz its full with pks.but Im a crafter god damn! I cant go mining with a warrior?!

[Quentin Lang]

Oh man, trust me, big gun class got pounded in groin with supersledge too, but its not that bad. Could be worse.

[RavenousRat]

now its harder then ever for sg crafters. hq ores and hq minerals are not obtainable cuz some pk shit killin us at mining areas
look my character isnt combat based Im a goddamn crafter and how can I obtain hq minerals and hq ores?
I need some combat skills to get it cuz its full with pks.but Im a crafter god damn! I cant go mining with a warrior?!

Lol, you just need some luck. ;p
Today was really fun day. One lolman tryed to kill me at mine... omg, I laughted on all mine, so everyone can hear me. His pistol exploded in his hands lol. I was laughting and can't hit rocks with my cursor, 'cause of this.

[Quentin Lang]

His pistol exploded in his hands lol.

lol, it knocks me up too when that happens. Yesterday one of my flamers exploded, did 20 damage to me and 10 damage to a mole rat right next to me. Would be better if that killed it.

[Attero]

for the gun to explode he was porbably 1 lck ... awsome pk ><

[Solar]

Not everything will get fixed in one update. 5 min countdown for healing powder is a bug and will be fixed.

Alloys for Flamers - well, Alloys expense is diminished from before wipe, so having an Alloy in a recipe now is not as big a deal as before. Having said that, I can't remember if I lowered the requirements for them ... vaguely remember making GP and MP 40% Science and Alloys 60% - is this on the server at the moment?

As for small guns requiring high quality parts, it should always have been like this. If you want to craft the good stuff you're going to have to get out and get your hands dirty. For the safe option, theres always level 0 and 1 items.

As for 10mm SMG and Grease gun switching round, Grease is worse than a 10mm SMG, so I switched it - which then allowed the .45 cal ammo type to be the cheap option SMG.

[bikkebakke]

How come I cant log in right now :/ It says It's the wrong username/password but they for damned sure aint wrong.

BUMP! I STILL CANT FRIKKING LOG IN... and i havnt seen anyone else with this problem. Have I been banned or something, if so for what?!

@below, okidoki

ye i kinda found out about my problem -.-!!! this fucking problem

[Solar]

BUMP! I STILL CANT FRIKKING LOG IN... and i havnt seen anyone else with this problem. Have I been banned or something, if so for what?!

Ask a GM (on IRC is best).

[Quentin Lang]

for the gun to explode he was porbably 1 lck ... awsome pk ><

Na, me gots 6 luck, still exploded. Once tho, but still.

[maszrum]

there is still a problem with docotro skill, when you have crippled arm or something and weakness -
doctor removing only weakonly

[JohnyT]

Hey, admins, could you update wiki?
Then players could tell the difference between your intended changes and reality