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Whould you guys like to wipe and fix the game or keep it?

yeah!!!
- 55 (48.7%)
mabe
- 6 (5.3%)
dunno
- 5 (4.4%)
no
- 15 (13.3%)
wtf is wrong with you
- 32 (28.3%)

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Senocular

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2013, 04:18:33 pm »

change TC reward system, because noone needs 10000 ropes and 10000 flamer fuel.
TC chest contents should depend on traders' activity in the particular city. No more ghost towns.
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Alvarez

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2013, 04:34:42 pm »

Game needs more repeatable quests and quests in general.
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Tomowolf

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2013, 04:36:08 pm »

TC chest contents should depend on traders' activity in the particular city. No more ghost towns.
Well, since traders want to buy only hi-tier items, which players are only willing to sell for caps, not trading for another item, this is crippled thinking, and it won't change anything, quests in cities and activities in cities are the mission for DEVs, not nerfing another thing, because all we will see in Northern Towns will be Apes starting TC and idling for reward.
If it depend on traders activity, there would be no reward = no players going to take cities with no rewards, and TC will get nerf aswell.
Game needs more repeatable quests and quests in general.
And more quests.
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2013, 04:41:28 pm »

The faction who is controlling the city should take care of the city, not killing everything that moves. More players doing stuff in the city more reward to the faction controlling the city. I would like that.
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Tomowolf

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2013, 04:44:28 pm »

The faction who is controlling the city should take care of the city, not killing everything that moves. More players doing stuff in the city more reward to the faction controlling the city. I would like that.
Why they can't kill everyone in the city?
They're gangs, and it's post apo world, its up to gang what policy they gotta do, robbing people or helping them, but the first is easier, and more helpful for them.
The full PVP made that not viable in this game.
First more activities in town, then nerf TC, not the other way, or we gotta have 50 players waiting for another update for 2 years, and they'll die waiting.
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2013, 05:13:12 pm »

Why they can't kill everyone in the city?
They're gangs, and it's post apo world, its up to gang what policy they gotta do, robbing people or helping them, but the first is easier, and more helpful for them.
The full PVP made that not viable in this game.
First more activities in town, then nerf TC, not the other way, or we gotta have 50 players waiting for another update for 2 years, and they'll die waiting.
Ive said nothing about making unable pvp in cities... I just say that a wealthier city (thats more activity) should give more wealth to the players who control the city. And in my opinion, killing players doesnt raise the activity in city, but thats just an opinion.
I also remember last season when the samartians took redding and didnt kill the bluesuits, that city was cool, it was like a 2nd ncr. Id like to see more tc factions doing something like that.
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2013, 05:20:10 pm »

Ive said nothing about making unable pvp in cities... I just say that a wealthier city (thats more activity) should give more wealth to the players who control the city. And in my opinion, killing players doesnt raise the activity in city, but thats just an opinion.
I also remember last season when the samartians took redding and didnt kill the bluesuits, that city was cool, it was like a 2nd ncr. Id like to see more tc factions doing something like that.
Then the whole TC system needs to be reworked aaand activites needs to be added, because standing in Redding or BH is same as standing in NCR, but those first gives you free reward.
The idea about players doing something in cities may kill the main PVP system there - TC, and only PK in New Reno would last.
As I said before, it isn't post-apo sims simulator, but a game, and you can do freely what you want in the game, raid the city, take rewards, fight with other gang for rewards, not for some noobs who will clean shit in city.
There are max 1 - 2 traders in city, so the rewards would be high as none...
And players have no opportunity to trade anything with those traders expect giving them 1000 healing powders for their drugs, so it's pretty simple why it wouldn't work in the first place.
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2013, 05:25:07 pm »

Ive said nothing about making unable pvp in cities... I just say that a wealthier city (thats more activity) should give more wealth to the players who control the city. And in my opinion, killing players doesnt raise the activity in city, but thats just an opinion.
I also remember last season when the samartians took redding and didnt kill the bluesuits, that city was cool, it was like a 2nd ncr. Id like to see more tc factions doing something like that.
Yeah, I remember those ideas in Redding and Broken Hills. They lasted for a few weeks, because some other ape packs whined about "zey are getting itanz with no fight zats unfari!!111" and then regular pew pew came again.
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2013, 05:25:59 pm »

As I said before, it isn't post-apo sims simulator, but a game, and you can do freely what you want in the game, raid the city, take rewards, fight with other gang for rewards, not for some noobs who will clean shit in city.

Just a matter of proper incentives.
If rewards will spawn only if someone will clean shit, shit will get cleaned.

I don't expect pr0 apes wanting to do it, so they probably would let any noob clean it for xp and the bit of caps.

The same could be for anything else - mining, trading, doing quests and so on.

Of course enemy gang could try to prevent cleaning shit.

Shit might be the answer, the whole game could revolve around it.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 05:31:38 pm by JovankaB »
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Tomowolf

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2013, 05:33:08 pm »

Just a matter of proper incentives.
If rewards will spawn only if someone will clean shit, shit will get cleaned.

I don't expect pr0 apes wanting to do it, so they probably would let any noob clean it for xp and the bit of caps.
Make more NPCs trading various MISC stuff (like town inhabitans of Redding would have some ore/gold/materials etc),
And this is easy I guess, not some pr0 hardcode stuff.
Expect everything from the ape, if they got tons of stuff NOT from the TC, they would just kill for teh lulz that noob.

I've got nothing more to say about this, because imho it's not suitable idea for this game and this community.
Just a matter of proper incentives.
If rewards will spawn only if someone will clean shit, shit will get cleaned.
Of course enemy gang could try to prevent cleaning shit.
Shit might be the answer, the whole game could revolve around it.
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« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 05:35:57 pm by Tomowolf »
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2013, 06:10:38 pm »

Ever get the feeling the project got hijacked by someone with fecalphelia?
Hmmm and all this talk of "wipe".
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 06:33:03 pm by Roachor »
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2013, 06:23:55 pm »

Yes and back before wipe !
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maszrum

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2013, 06:43:46 pm »

i dont think that wipe would change something in this point, not now its way to late for that. after years of supporting 2238 we have enought. only some significant changes can bring old players back. what i mean by signifacnt changes ? i realize its not commercial projcet and 2238 developers dont need to explain anything to the community, but for fuck sake.. if you asking for donations at last try to interact with community what you created. tell us something about work in progress, plans. explain problems.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2013, 06:59:31 pm by maszrum »
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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2013, 07:07:55 pm »

Interaction between players and developers it's the only way to make this server rise again.

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Re: Wipe the game or not?
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2013, 07:09:50 pm »

only some significant changes can bring old players back.
Why would we want old players back?
Most of them were assholes and whiners that exploited the shit out of everything.
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