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T-888:
Gear requirement to be somewhat effective is just as normal as to eat food and breath air, it will not ruin the build, just make it a higher risk reward aspect playing one, if you want to run around completely naked i don't understand how you can expect to be a threat or be unbeatable in fact in any way, you will be better with a mega power fist or the ordinary version of it any time. Only difference you won't be able to come back to NR 10 times in a row and harass players with it anymore without any drawback or consequence.

Useless trolls, bring nothing to game play, i rather see someone with gear and risking something instead of naked characters who risk nothing and posse threat by harassment and other retarded means like these AC trolls running around and looting in TC just for fun, those are just moron-like features. Some kids who have nothing better to do than annoy players should suck up this heavy handed change and for good.

falloutdude:
I would not mind having to use mega power fist to get 100 knock down chance. heavy handed is op and making heavy handers use mpf would balance it a little bit. again only people who see this as a flaw are..... trolls!

jacky.:
It was same when u could kill anyone with sd greese gun

AdolphbinStalin:

--- Quote from: avv on October 01, 2012, 09:59:15 pm ---As a troll yes, which was the plan. Get gear and your build works normally.

Not without gear.

Auto knockdown isn't an option, it's a buff.

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A good martial artist doesn't need gear to knock you down in HH combat; even if you're armed with a gun, should you let him get within hand-to-hand range. Auto knockdown is the only option/buff for pvp to make such build viable,  and even then you have to get in close range and you're doing small damage- not easy to do vs bursters/big gunners who can kill in 2-3 bursts. HH is also very useful for pve. I think proxy use and multi logging should be fixed first as it is more game breaking than knockdown which one can avoid by moving/not standing still and thus not allowing a HH build to get in close range.

Crazy:

--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 02, 2012, 02:11:48 am ---A good martial artist doesn't need gear to knock you down in HH combat; even if you're armed with a gun, should you let him get within hand-to-hand range.

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Realism doesn't have anything to do with the game, it's not a simulation. Or else, surviving an avenger (or even an AK) burst would be impossible, not mentioning avoiding it matrix style with AC. GP>realism


--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 02, 2012, 02:11:48 am ---Auto knockdown is the only option/buff for pvp to make such build viable,  and even then you have to get in close range and you're doing small damage- not easy to do vs bursters/big gunners who can kill in 2-3 bursts.
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No build should be viable without stuff. Ever. And getting a MPF will still be easier than getting a CA, a CA helmet, and an avenger/laser gatling (and the ammo). Thinking that you could loot all that stuff from people you killed while using none is absolute non sense, a retarded mechanic that encourage trolling and eventually ruin the fun and the main interest of the game (the risk of loosing valuable stuff, in exchange to the the possibility of getting it is a core mechanic of fonline, what makes all it's flavor. When at best you loose only ammo to loot nothing, and at worst loose all your stuff to an unarmed troll, there is a big problem).


--- Quote from: AdolphbinStalin on October 02, 2012, 02:11:48 am ---which one can avoid by moving/not standing still and thus not allowing a HH build to get in close range.

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Yeah, because playing benny hill because of a bluesuit retard is a fantastic game experience...

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