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[Wichura]

top tier items 4th lvl like pa/gauss rifle/bozar/vindicator/pulse rifle should be in game but as prices for events or for "doing something special for comunity"

I'm a supreme kind of troll in this community. Can I have a top tier pony?

Anything else you would like to share except random whine about random shit, sir?

[Jytz]

i dont like idea "we have stuff but we wont let you to have it"
there should be all in game and top tier items 4th lvl like pa/gauss rifle/bozar/vindicator/pulse rifle should be in game but as prices for events or for "doing something special for comunity"
ca,ca mk2,ba, ea should be avalible for everyone and i dont like solar idea that npc fractions are stronger that overage player. well if pvp player is mercenarry he should be better equiped than random ncr soldier including armor and weapon.
and i would like to implement new encounter near vaults and sierra - robot patrols (and you could farm from them mp, hq mp, alloys, hq alloys, ele parts, hq ele parts). forcing people to spend weeks on farming isnt good idea when troll builds are op.

There is the life after mk2, or google "tlamk2" and translate it to your language. You can craft and obtain everything in that game like power armors, bozars etc. But its a Russian server you well not find much help unless you meet a guy who speaks english, but the game is 75% translated in english. I actually like the way it is and the items we can obtain, I think the guass pistols should be removed entirely because its idoitic to not have OP weapons but lets keep this pistol in the game and it shoots 50 hexes, but that is another rant for another thread.

tlamk2 is actually a normal game, you farm craft and trade to shops with no problems, no bb fags, or no need to make a theif, bomber etc. It has its difficulties but its actually an enjoyable game if you can give up running.

[T-888]

Well the issue was this was a good alternative to crafting to obtain some gear. I'm sorry but not everybody enjoys blue print hunting and crafting.

What?

SS/5mm AP ammunition don't even need blueprint, they come with the profession level. The issue was that there was hardly any risk/limitation for stealing, if you died you didn't loose anything and you could keep stealing forever in unreasonable amounts for how valuable the items was for players. I think there are enough players who don't understand one thing, i will explain it in simple language and example. There are easy to get items that don't have much worth for player to use, then there are higher tier items that are accordingly harder to obtain for how valuable those items are for the player and what use the player has for them. Now move your brain just a little bit and think about SS/5mm ammo before the update, like very hard. Last time i'm explaining this. It's still a good alternative, only more balanced now.

How can players dislike a feature for the wrong reasons? I mean how is that is even possible?

[Jytz]

What?

SS/5mm AP ammunition don't even need blueprint, they come with the profession level. The issue was that there was hardly any risk/limitation for stealing, if you died you didn't loose anything and you could keep stealing forever in unreasonable amounts for how valuable the items was for players. I think there are enough players who don't understand one thing, i will explain it in simple language and example. There are easy to get items that don't have much worth for player to use, then there are higher tier items that are accordingly harder to obtain for how valuable those items are for the player and what use the player has for them. Now move your brain just a little bit and think about SS/5mm ammo before the update. Last time i'm explaining this. It's still a good alternative, only more balanced now.

How can players dislike a feature for the wrong reasons? I mean how is that is even possible?

We all know how fun and a complete productive use of time crafting super stims is now. So what who cares if you could have steal forever its a video game not a real life simulator that this community is strangly looking for.  If they didn't want us to steal super stims off bos then why does bos have super stims? I suggest moving to a warzone if everybody wants a realistic feel as to what a post apoclyptic wasteland is like. You do realize that people play video games for fun yes? And not take it all anal serious as you do.

[racoon]

btw, 9 pages of crying when they increased steal difficulty. pathetic. peoples making thieves with 130% steal on lvl 4 and later crying that they cant steal ammo. like i said before i have 222% steal and luck 1. stole 5k ammo today again without fail. stealing is not nerfed. i am lvling big gunner and stealing ammo for him.

[ToxiCAVE]

tlamk2...

i know but i am talking about 2238. prev sesion we could get most of 3rd lvl stuff and some 4th lvl but in this troll sesion u have max 2nd lvl of crafting and 3rd lvl boosted weapons. but best idea is blueshit troll build. ca is crap and if devs dont want to give us better armors why the hell they invented new 3rd lvl armor from enclave and lotable ncr ca. they should gives us ca mk2 bp to impreve ca vs gatling.

same proble with weapons. it would be good to give us low ammount of 4th lvl gear.

[T-888]

We all know how fun and a complete productive use of time crafting super stims is now. So what who cares if you could have steal forever its a video game not a real life simulator that this community is strangly looking for.  If they didn't want us to steal super stims off bos then why does bos have super stims? I suggest moving to a warzone if everybody wants a realistic feel as to what a post apoclyptic wasteland is like. You do realize that people play video games for fun yes? And not take it all anal serious as you do.

It's still possible to buy them, to steal them and the amount should be enough for personal use. I take things seriously? I'm the rarity of players that have the sense to judge a feature properly, not whine on each change providing useless arguments as how the game is some waiting simulator, that doesn't prove anything it only indicates that the game might be too hard for you. Put in charge players like you in the development of this game, and it would turn shit in moments another hello kitty online, you'd cause more problems than you realize and you can cause problems providing incorrect feedback.

I assure you, i will make sure nobody listens to you.

Asking players for feedback depends on who you ask.

[Kilgore]

I'm the rarity of players that have the sense to judge a feature properly, [...]
I assure you, i will make sure nobody listens to you.

Sounds pretty serious 

[T-888]

I already predicted your presence, whenever i use I in a sentence and make statement about myself, Trollgore is here to save the day.

I say common sense, there is nothing serious about that. Right, Trollgore?

[Kilgore]

Don't get upset, triptroll. I came here only to tell that you're a joke, kid.

Wow, reply in 30 seconds, do you stay here all day, waiting for some forum pvp and hitting F5-preview button?

[T-888]

I came here only to tell that you're a joke.

Sounds serious, have some personal issues with me?

Isn't PM for that? Can just tell me that i'm a joke privately. Coolgore.

Wow, reply in 30 seconds, do you stay here all day, waiting for some forum pvp and hitting F5-preview button?

Nope, i just don't need half a day to make a reply and talking to you is getting old and predictable.

[Nice_Boat]

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Kids shouldn't get mad like that, kid. It's bad for their sense to judge a feature properly, kid. You better listen to what more competent players like Kilgore have to say, kid.

Trolling aside, 2238 seems to be on a downward slope after the SD nade nerf and TC fix again. Compared to what we've got ammo should be easier to get during the endgame, not harder. Same with stimpacks and other consumables.

[Kilgore]

SD nerf and TC fix were rather improvements, but it seems that improving other trollbuilds (220ac), limiting crafting while people often used all their blueprints on few chars, limiting bos/enclave stealing has made less people play the game.

Well, stealing from bos/enclave was indeed an exploit, I was able to get 300-400 super stims per hour from bos iirc. Too bad that there was nothing done about it for too long and some people made vast supplies of ss/5mm/mfc, the others just changed their playstyle "because SS are almost unlimited".

[T-888]

2238 seems to be on a downward slope after the SD nade nerf and TC fix again. Compared to what we've got ammo should be easier to get during the endgame, not harder. Same with stimpacks and other consumables.

The fix was done during wipe, not at the start of it, because it was unnoticed by developers and players weren't concerned about it, they never care to report things that makes playing easy, casual. Thought that is not a reason to not fix the bug, damage will be repaired once another wipe comes, or long enough time passes by. There are still more pressing matters needed to be attended. Some stealing exploit witch in comparison to the legit Troll Box from the Toilet Control is small a thing.

Kids shouldn't get mad like that, kid. It's bad for their sense to judge a feature properly, kid. You better listen to what more competent players like Kilgore have to say, kid.

Calling me a joke is real competent, and calling me a kid is even better than that. I'd rather post some picture of an axe hacked into a mans head, that would mirror the punishment for how stupid your logic and sense behind is what you just said and how. Old_Boat.

[ToxiCAVE]

T888 kid go outside...it is summer...or 2238 is all your life? Trollgore was right here. You are just overreacted kid.