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[Sarakin]

Seems like Nice_Boat got answer for every PvP situation, Id like to know what invincible chars does he play with.
SD sneaker is overpowered not because of dmg, but because of caps:effect ratio. You invest few hundred caps and kill almost every char in the game. If not on the first try, repeat. SD plasma sneakers arent that big threat in swarm pvp, but in small scale pvp, they pose a serious threat that cant be prevented.

@Zogra - move to FODE already

[blahblah]

Uhmmm.... The graphics and sound are pretty much fair use because the people who made it are no longer getting money for this game. The development tool to create server is free to use for anybody, that is what the creator of this tool says. So yeah, they have the same right to create a server as do you.

I play solo. I never trust players. Why? Because I know very well that there is 0 punishment here. I got killed and lost my items today too. With no chance to shoot back before I died. I was angry, but I know that this happens. You lost everything because you forgot this server has pretty much no rules. This is why people are fuckers who just want to make you angry.

Can you name the gang you joined? This is the second time I hear that they kill a faction member after he brings his stuff into the base.

[Kelin]

SD sneaker is overpowered not because of dmg, but because of caps:effect ratio. You invest few hundred caps and kill almost every char in the game. If not on the first try, repeat. SD plasma sneakers arent that big threat in swarm pvp, but in small scale pvp, they pose a serious threat that cant be prevented.

Another player who's been looking for Counter Strike but accidentally found FOnline. Another player who thinks "loook at mah avanger i spended 5 minuts in BoS encounter, its sooo expensive and now I well p0wn ya allll madafakerz!!!1". Seriously, this game is not about investment, it is mostly about luck. In every FOnline season with a bit of luck you were able to kill almost everyone with very cheap stuff. Sneakers aren't perfect, but serious threat? I am only sad, that there are no bg sneakers in this season.

[Killy]

Kelin please tell me where can I find cheap and easy to get cas ? since its all about op cheap dmg vs expensive armor:resistance

[Ymeogamaouas]

graphics map sounds and the development tool u guys used to create ur own server and exploit the game.

You have NO right to do that.

In past i said my opinion in forums that proffesion and restriction are very harsh you OVER do it.....

But no you do whatever u feel its right cause u belong to gang and u got tons of guns and u wanna dominate everything with ur friends....

But what about solo players or loners?

We dont have the right to play?

or we have to be ur target dummie?

FUCK YOU IDIOTS AND SUCK MY BIG HORNY DICK

if u wanna do something ask our opinion and make something friendly for us also not you and ur friends only

scums

Zogra ate POUTSA and now he whines... makes sense... crying about the game after he got pwned.... if he had done it to others he would say QQ noob etc...

but now POUTSA!

[Kelin]

Kelin please tell me where can I find cheap and easy to get cas ? since its all about op cheap dmg vs expensive armor:resistance

So that means with CA you are supposed to be immortal?

[Lordus]

Funny and sad together is, that Devs are incompetent in balancing. All current problems were foreseen, but devs though that magicly players will change their behaviour and stop using best possible builds.

 Shame on you 

[Sarakin]

@Kelin - I invest time into getting proper stuff for pvp and expect to have fun equal to time invested. On the other hand, you, some cheap sneaker is able to beat me at least 50% of time and I ask why should I bother getting better stuff, when we can all play sneakers that only need plasma nades/laser(plasma)pistol/whatever.

[Kelin]

Really? It's that simple? If so why don't you play only with sneakers? And other teams like BBS, Amboy... they don't run with sneakers because sneakers cannot compete with classic pvp chars, comprende?

[T-888]

I would like to see motion sensors more available.

start using gatling , you'll love sneaks or jhp ammunition you have the tools to deal with them , there are more quite very simple ways how to deal with them i don't mean positioning or anything like that , just eat SS on first of their grenades - extremely effective.

I should have not told anything it's funny to see you all rip each other to peaces , silent death mechanism is quite ridiculous in general i would disable it only because of that , not that it's very strong.

[Sarakin]

Really? It's that simple? If so why don't you play only with sneakers? And other teams like BBS, Amboy... they don't run with sneakers because sneakers cannot compete with classic pvp chars, comprende?

Just for you to know, my first char after wipe was a sneak nader, because from CBT, i knew they gonna rule. Everyone plays with characters hes having fun with. I get it, youre feeling butthurt now, first, your smg sneaker was nerfed and now naders seem to be next.
Were not talking about 5 normal pvp chars vs 5 naders. But anytime, plasma nader can attempt to instakill some player and risks just some nades.

[Trokanis]

Really this is just a prime example of what freedom truly brings to a game.  Anarchy.  A few lowlifes have their lulz stroked by using uber builds, while everyone else gets to pay for it.  I love the fallout universe it was very well written and executed back in the day, and this perversion of it still has some qualities I like.  However the fact that all the pvp lulz seeking troll people have hid behind the phrase "The Wasteland is Harsh."  for so long as an excuse to get away with essentially making the game very near unplayable for any of the casual type of player, they're soo scared things might become Harsh for them so they call others 'crying'. 

I know the Devs worked hard on this game, and they did it in their free time for no money.  They are trying to piece together parts of so many different styles things are bound to go wrong, but truthfully the only thing they actually DID wrong was rely on the people to play to make reasonable decisions.  If you give a kid a lighter with no rules, and nothing in his way, you know what's gonna happen!?  You're gonna be buying a new carpet, or maybe even a whole house.  The game itself as many good points, however there are some basic things that will FOREVER hold it back, and one of those is the freedom the children who play have. 

So please remember though this session has turned out to be mostly a wash, it is far more the other people who plays fault, than the Devs.  They're trying to make as many people happy as they can while keeping to the spirit of what they are trying to make, and sadly the majority of players is the lulz seeking power build trolls that we all know and (love) hate.

[Kelin]

Just for you to know, my first char after wipe was a sneak nader, because from CBT, i knew they gonna rule. Everyone plays with characters hes having fun with. I get it, youre feeling butthurt now, first, your smg sneaker was nerfed and now naders seem to be next.
Were not talking about 5 normal pvp chars vs 5 naders. But anytime, plasma nader can attempt to instakill some player and risks just some nades.

FYI: it's not butthurt, my sneaker got nerfed so I use him as a looter. No problem. I already mentioned that plasma grenades are bit overpowered, but I hear people whining and crying about the whole sneak class. These people would love to see sneakers only as non-combat scouting characters. That's something I can't abide. I still say that Silent Death is a good feature, which enriches the game experience. SD bursts were removed, but still some people are bitchin' about it. I don't really understand. You can't force sneakers to use expensive equipment. Why? Sneakers die like 5 or maybe 10 times more often than regular pvp chars.

For example I hate gatling laser. Someone could say that I should go and get some. I don't want to be travelling around themepark for hours. Alone I can't even kill the enclave. Do you see me setting up a new topic with "Nerf gatling lasers" title? No. Even though I've seen a gatling laser guy killing lots of pvp chars alone (1 vs. 10 for example). That's something I would call overpowered. Of course I don't like to be killed by a nade dealing 200+ dmg, but once they nerf grenades, they will nerf pistols and everything. We will move back in time, everyone will make a 3xbrd sg burster dealing hardly 100 dmg. I don't want this.

PS: I don't use grenade sneaker, pistols are better against other sneakers

[T-888]

There's one thing i don't like in SD design the area witch counts as back is too wide.

[Trokanis]

Also don't forget the fact that this post is about MORE than just the messed up SD sneaker.  It's also not a matter of having SD sneaker/nader builds removed, so much as having them looked at.  Heaven forbid something might attempt to be balanced.