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[avv]

So just make SD work at 10 hex range and closer? Why nerf it into oblivion?

The biggest problem is that it autocrits. Besides, crits and sneak fit together badly. Crits are based on gambling and sneaking is about planning. You can't plan to win at gamble, that's why a sd sneaker who gets bad crits usually dies right away. But because he can get those good crits with any gear, it's encouraging to roll with as little gear as possible to reduce the losses from unsuccesful attack.

Personally I beleave best option would be either damage boost or guaranteed bypass. It doesn't add any random instances in the play, but a simple predictable bonus. This encourages taking good gear because good gear benefits more from pure damage bonuses than crap gear.

[Nice_Boat]

No it doesn't you just have to be in line of him from one of the sides , i tested all that in CBT

Right, because all walls are straight.

Personally I beleave best option would be either damage boost or guaranteed bypass. It doesn't add any random instances in the play, but a simple predictable bonus. This encourages taking good gear because good gear benefits more from pure damage bonuses than crap gear.

Well, as long as it's a 1shot kill in case it connects "right" I see nothing wrong with that. Heck, just make SD do +50% crit chance instead of autocrit and call it a day.

[T-888]

Oh my ... you are just impossible , it doesn't matter what kind of wall if your in a straight line of him on one of the sides it counts as back. How stubborn can you get.

[Nice_Boat]

Oh my ... you are just impossible , it doesn't matter what kind of wall if your in a straight line of him on one of the sides it counts as back. How stubborn can you get.

O rly? Well, SD-hit this. Actually, SD-hit a dude that keeps changing direction at random, because with 150-ish ping and 60 fps he's got 8-12 blind frames on you and you can't tell what direction he's facing at the moment of the throw. And that's assuming attacks have 1 frame to become active, if the hit occurs after a few startup frames you can add that too.

[T-888]

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Nevermind. Talking about completely ridiculous stuff again , irrelevant.

[Nice_Boat]

Framedata and lag being ridiculous and irrelevant to competitive gameplay? That's a new one. You never cease to amaze (amuse?) me tripleight, keep it up.

Anyway, since this issue was brought up and starting a new thread would be a bit too much, a quick one to Solar - do weapons deal damage the moment an attack is registered by the game in a completely lag-free environment, or do the animations matter in this respect? Does it vary from weapon to weapon, or is it all consistent?

[Crab_people]

you are such a cry babies...sneakers with plasma grenades are op and everyon knows that. it was matter if time when devs will turn it off. but putting away sd from throwing shint isnt good way, just remove it from plasma granades, well i want to see what will happen when i will be able to use 223 pistol and stop crying, lasers are good, 223pistols could be problem but i need to check it first, plasma grenages are op

[falloutdude]

remove sd i say. its crazy a sneaker with 50 hp can do 250 damage on a guy in ca.... really sneakers should be only good for 1 thing thats scouting the enemy other then that they should be nothing. really who thought this up? lets make a bluesuit sneaker a fucken tank that can kill guys in ca's with 1 simple attack.

[mosme]

Even if they take SD away, you still can make a sneaker with 85% crit chance.

[avv]

Even if they take SD away, you still can make a sneaker with 85% crit chance.

It was possible in last session too but such builds didn't manage.

[Crab_people]

so what? sneaker is for scout and killing loners, but not pvp tanks

[Zogra]

Im the only one that thinks that the game has been getting worse with every update?
I think that all new things in this season has been fucked... im talking about tc, farming, crafting, combat, skills and all the things i dont want even think of.
I remember that the game was good in previus season besides a few bugs (bank sistem,inv teleport) and the one before it i remember it was great too, even when i played only the last 2 months of it.
I cant understand what the devs want to make this game of... i think it was a great game time ago and it isnt now...thats my opinnion and i would like to know what you guys the fonline community thinks.
I hope my post wont be censored because of the tittle or the things im saying, i think that what im saying is what a part of the comunnity thinks and i just want the best for this great game.

Sincerely Kalo

No you are not the only one. Yes the game is tottaly a piece of crap new updates add new harsh unessecary restrictions that forced me to move to military base just to have access to adv workbench and i got scammed by a local gang and took ALL of my stuff.

Ofc i reported this exploit to devs and GM's but no1 gave a fuck except me for plying 2 months day and night this peice of shit so the 18 yo kids steal all my stuff i worked hard to get.


Fuck you devs for exploiting interplays fallout engines fuck you and go die for exploiting this fine game and this fine fonline engine YOU fucked up

GTFO i hope solar flare burns ur fucking server you fucking scums go develop packman idiots u screwed fonline engine on 2238 server

good thing u are not the only fonline server around

Try FODE guys its still in pre beta release but at least there if u get scummed u get ur stuff back for free.
And FODE got so many new features and a lot better features that 2238 crap server.

[blahblah]

The only thing that belongs to Black Isle Studio (not existing any more) is graphics and sounds. This engine is made by someone else.
I'm sad to see you so angry, but that is how it ends if you don't know the rules. The rules for this server are "everything is allowed" and that is why it is always worth being careful and never trust anybody.

[chocolate_chip_cookies]

Sneaking is useful even without SD, I don't understand why devs had to increase its power by adding SD when there are many skills that are useless and need a boost.

[Zogra]

The only thing that belongs to Black Isle Studio (not existing any more) is graphics and sounds. This engine is made by someone else.
I'm sad to see you so angry, but that is how it ends if you don't know the rules. The rules for this server are "everything is allowed" and that is why it is always worth being careful and never trust anybody.

This is a game not the actual wasteland. In wasteland they dont have forums to talk things over.

Everything should be allowed in logicial limits of a game!

Those scums invited me to their base then once i moved all my stuff they started killing me...

Do you understand?

The only thing that belongs to Black Isle Studio (not existing any more) is graphics and sounds. This engine is made by someone else.
I'm sad to see you so angry, but that is how it ends if you don't know the rules. The rules for this server are "everything is allowed" and that is why it is always worth being careful and never trust anybody.

graphics map sounds and the development tool u guys used to create ur own server and exploit the game.

You have NO right to do that.

In past i said my opinion in forums that proffesion and restriction are very harsh you OVER do it.....

But no you do whatever u feel its right cause u belong to gang and u got tons of guns and u wanna dominate everything with ur friends....

But what about solo players or loners?

We dont have the right to play?

or we have to be ur target dummie?

if u wanna do something ask our opinion and make something friendly for us also not you and ur friends only