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[Rage master]

Tc is junk

[Michaelh139]

almost all active gangs don't have more than 12 players at the time.[/li][/list]

That's what Fast Relog is for trolololol.

[Deckard]

I agree on the TC system, it needs work but i feel the grenades should have less damage with silent death, its insane with the 200+ damage crit.

[Matej]

How about just getting rid of Sneak altogether? Being completely invisible to someone standing a few meters in front of me is dumb anyway. Sneak/disappear skills are always the plague of MMO PvP. It can work well in single player mode, but utilizing it in a multilayer environment is just silly.

[mosme]

How about just getting rid of Sneak altogether? Being completely invisible to someone standing a few meters in front of me is dumb anyway. Sneak/disappear skills are always the plague of MMO PvP. It can work well in single player mode, but utilizing it in a multilayer environment is just silly.

someone dont like rogues

[Rage master]

it is scout, not harry potter. you can see him from 10-15hex in open because ghost didnt work. but u need +10pe

[Matej]

someone dont like rogues

Ironically, in every game I always play the rogue/burglar/thief character.
Yet I will also readily acknowledge that being invisible in plain sight is pretty dumb. There are better ways to figure out being stealthy in my opinion, but that is topic for a brand new game that has not been made yet.

I think FOnline without Sneak could be quite fun. People (such as me) would be forced to stop trying to figure out the most annoying 'troll' build, and we would all go back to gun builds and have fun shooting at each other.

[Trokanis]

As far as what Solar was saying about the crafting system, right now it sadly requires either serious money making alts, or at least scavving lockpicking alts to be able to advance those systems.  And that's not including the fact that now, camping the good benches has become a sport for the bored people, so even if you manage to get your hands on the bps and materials for making higher end gear, Good Luck keeping it.  At least before a small gang could get together and make almost anything except MFC's if they had the patience and skill to get the material.  Now you have to have a group of pvp haulers just to get to craft stuff.  Alts, alts, alts, alts.  Didn't there used to be a discussion about how the devs wanted to make alting LESS of an issue?  Oh and love the post with the, "See brahmin, fast relog burster alt, kill brahmin, fast relog carry alt, get stuff."  Not really what I would call a step forward this session.

[Swarm]

I like the crafting system, it is nice for once everybody not having brotherhood armor. And I for one like the idea of advanced work benches being in unsafe locations, it makes the game more interesting. I don't know but if you ask me being able to craft everything in a safe location such as a base seems kind of sissy now...

Believe me I raged when I got pk at a advanced work bench, but I think its just stupid how last wipe the worse that can happen is getting pk at a mine while waiting another 20 minutes to gather, and then by time you got passed the log out timer the pkers are gone, now you can fast log to your uber ape and kill the pker that got your materials

[avv]

How about just getting rid of Sneak altogether? Being completely invisible to someone standing a few meters in front of me is dumb anyway. Sneak/disappear skills are always the plague of MMO PvP. It can work well in single player mode, but utilizing it in a multilayer environment is just silly.

Sneak used to be balanced but silent death fractured the balance. The balance was that in previous session a bg couln't see a sneak but sneak couldn't harm bg that much. Sniper was able to see sneak but sneak could fight sniper. Best sneakers used lsw in previous session, it was and still is a quality weapon so you had to play smart.

Now we got sneaks that are able to fight everyone with low tier gear because of silent death turns low-medium power weapons into instakill devices.

[Kelin]

Best sneakers used lsw in previous session, it was and still is a quality weapon so you had to play smart.

You won't see many lsw sneakers in this session due to huge sneak penalty and (which is even worse) because it's unfarmable.

[avv]

You won't see many lsw sneakers in this session due to huge sneak penalty and (which is even worse) because it's unfarmable.

But even if lsw didnt have sneak penalty, silent death would still excell because it just has such qualities that turn cheap gear into proper killing devices.

[Vandal]

But even if lsw didnt have sneak penalty, silent death would still excell because it just has such qualities that turn cheap gear into proper killing devices.

I fully agree.

[Swarm]

Well smg sneakers were ridiculous glad they are gone.

There has to be some room for fun builds, I mean ape builds are fun but I think there needs to be room for creativity, and sneaker builds make for creativity. I tried making an lsw sneaker last wipe and hated it, it was too annoying getting killed by snipers, so I just ended up just using the build for as a blue suit scout. I can see where sneakers being used for pk would make people rage.

[Crab_people]

then are little to op, reduce sd crit modificator and everything will be fine. Now only plasma grenade sneaker are op but it is way better then greese gun shit death