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[OskaRus]

players tend to farm and hoard ("just wait
until I get stronger, I will pay you back!!!", "HAHA I have a stack of 100 dynamites! Soon I will have 200
and THEN I will show them", "I don't feel safe without at least 100 BAs, how could I fight tomorrow? :S").
Maybe they should change their approach, but I doubt it's possible.

I dont doubt that. Players will not hoard stuff as sonn as some pvp market starts to work. But i doubt taht any working market will ever be implemented. :-(

[Shonsu]

I would like to see monthly updates on what's happening with the CBT.  Like someone had said.. thinks like "Well, we're currently working on helmets" or "After wipe you won't need stats to learn professions anymore".  Then again we have devs (well at least one) that think there shouldn't be a wiki with quest information.  Heaven forbid we don't talk to every npc in town looking for something.

[Mr Shi]

true but read devs blog and post...they said wipe is soon,sooner,allmost soon,sooner than before,sooooooooooooooooooner,there is no wipe!

[Kilgore]

I dont doubt that. Players will not hoard stuff as sonn as some pvp market starts to work. But i doubt taht any working market will ever be implemented. :-(

WTF is pvp market? You mean that players pay with bullets and leave with stuff? I've got a feeling that such kind of market has started working long ago.

[TKs-KaBoom]

Most wipe bull*** comes from players, it's not the fault of the staff that players spread rumors.
Maybe once or twice in 2 years a dev made a mistake and gave some vague date like "if everything goes
well it should be in a month, but maybe not". Can you blame them if people ask this shit every day?

Personally I think we make a mistake everytime we say "soon" (although I don't know if GMs still do this,
I believe now it's mainly players who keep repeating this, it really is a self-perpetuating machine from hell).
It may seem funny and normal people know it's just a trollish answer to annoying question, but some people
actually think it means "this week" and start spreading never-ending rumors about wipe and new players
believe them.

For me wipe date doesn't matter, but new (and not only new) players tend to farm and hoard ("just wait
until I get stronger, I will pay you back!!!", "HAHA I have a stack of 100 dynamites! Soon I will have 200
and THEN I will show them", "I don't feel safe without at least 100 BAs, how could I fight tomorrow? :S").
Maybe they should change their approach, but I doubt it's possible.

Maybe this word "soon" should be banned, it's not even funny anymore and it only makes people
upset over time. PLEASE, just answer: "don't know / there is no wipe date" or answer nothing and
don't use word "soon". I'm asking players, gms and devs.

So we're talking about soon, right?
The wipe is soon?

[Solar]

Not to mention people claiming to be us announcing other wipe dates on the server - to clear that up, its never us telling you when the wipe is when its someone shouting it in game:P

[Haraldx]

Devs say:
Soon
Players say:
Soon^(tm)

The developers are doing a fine job, it's hard for us, the players, to appreciate it.

Another newbie missing the point, that this is open beta, server wipes are obligatory for further testing.

[Shangalar]

Devs say:
Soon
Players say:
Soon^(tm)

The developers are doing a fine job, it's hard for us, the players, to appreciate it.Another newbie missing the point, that this is open beta, server wipes are obligatory for further testing.

If you decide to ban the word soon, ban also beta testing. It's a long time since we don't give a fuck about this too easy pretext...

Eternauta, you're right when you say that many players are still checking the forum for further updates. Nevertheless, the loss of several old friends who got bored of devs silence, the lack of communication which is really not difficult to maintain, the feeling of being snobbed everytime we got abused by some drunk gm or dev, or received some "soon wipe, please donate and goodbye" - I saw shitloads of new players donating for this game and leave within a week after magic cancealed -, all these little things together decrease the tremedous credits devs had at the beginning. I must say I'm quite surprised no serious matter happened to the game already. When you see game mechanics and compare all these things to other games... this community must be very mature after all.

[Nice_Boat]

(...) Maybe this word "soon" should be banned, it's not even funny anymore (..)

... seriously, banning a word that's a joke because the situation associated with it is a joke? Get real.

[JovankaB]

... seriously, banning a word that's a joke because the situation associated with it is a joke? Get real.

You have five years of linguistics, you should know better when some suggestion is serious and when it's not.

[Kilgore]

I agree here. Everybody knows that jovanka posts only obvious jokes 

[Uzaykeki]

still no wipe? lol
we already left the game, now we are playing starwars online, have fun you guys
we might come back when some random dev do some random wipe n shit

[Lexx]

Thank you for the information.

[Eternauta]

Eternauta, you're right when you say that many players are still checking the forum for further updates. Nevertheless, the loss of several old friends who got bored of devs silence, the lack of communication which is really not difficult to maintain, the feeling of being snobbed everytime we got abused by some drunk gm or dev, or received some "soon wipe, please donate and goodbye" - I saw shitloads of new players donating for this game and leave within a week after magic cancealed -, all these little things together decrease the tremedous credits devs had at the beginning. I must say I'm quite surprised no serious matter happened to the game already. When you see game mechanics and compare all these things to other games... this community must be very mature after all.

I guess I can understad, still you're saying many are still checking the forums. I will not be surprised if former "2238 is shit" quitters came back massively after wipe.

[Lordus]

 I just dont understand one thing. Why you (devs) dont post any info about fresh update work you did. It could be only few lines of text, "i made three lines of scripts today", or "i create new AI but it was bad so i need to work on it from scratch", or "i am moving to new house, i dont care about players until any of them will not help me." After wipe, you can write: "no more work for 5 months, we need to work on our families." Simply. We know that you have duties in real world, you can ignore whining of kids. But it would be more fair for core fans of this project.

 Maybe, you can write something more about yourself, where you work, what do (did) you study.. I guarantee you, that it will help to change the vision of players on developers. From monsters to critters.


 Wipe (not current):

 If work on next update wipe will be longer, you can still "wipe server for better gameplay" => wipe it without any (major) updates. But if you have quite more time, you could only change some variables to change gameplay of next session.

 I.e.: no more HQ materials, ammo is more expensive, eliminate some drugs, critters have 10 more lifes (or only half) .. so it would not be same.

 Reason? Maybe you dont realize, but post wipe time is best part of every session. Nobody has anything, you need to level up your crafters and other chars, players trade among themselfs in NCR bazaar, you are happy if you kill scorpion etc..

 But we have to wait on this short part of session (week, max two for those who take vacations for fonline ) for year and half! Not whining, not crying, only statement.