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A few small suggestions.
Henderson:
--- Quote from: Lexx on September 20, 2011, 09:05:28 AM ---Steamworks can't be integrated. It's as simple as that.
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Why exactly is that? It's not like its some miraculous thing. . . . . .
Lexx:
The technic isn't the problem, it's the law. And I don't mean the rocket launcher.
First, because of VALVe. Second, because Fallout is not ours. We can't release it on whatever buy/sell plattform. Bethesda lawyers for sure might have something against it-- also VALVe. Beside, you have to own Fallout 2 in order to play FOnline (legally), so this would need to be connected. We can't provide all files for download. /Edit: Also you can't simply download Steamworks. You have to contact VALVe, show them the game, talk about all the legal stuff, etc. pp. It's part of a partner system, after all.
We tried to get 2238 on Desura, but currently this is not possible, because of technical issues (out of our hands).
Andr3aZ:
I remember dozens of mods for the HL/HL2 engines downloadable on Steam / Steam-Works-able. Maybe its because of the fact that HL/HL2 engine is owned by VALVe, but maybe try it that way as Steam-supported mod? Only playable when Fallout2 is bought (F2 is avaible on Steam). Would encourage the purchase of F2 through Steam and maybe pleases VALVe and Bethesa. Of course the .dat files wont be downloaded when installing Fonline2238 via Steam, but a dialog pops up that lets you choose the location of your Fallout2 folder in your Steam-directory for the usage of the original .dat files or even automatically find the path to F2 in the Steam-directory (the installation paths are always the same, you can't alter them).
Henderson:
--- Quote from: Lexx on September 20, 2011, 10:08:44 AM ---The technic isn't the problem, it's the law. And I don't mean the rocket launcher.
First, because of VALVe. Second, because Fallout is not ours. We can't release it on whatever buy/sell plattform. Bethesda lawyers for sure might have something against it-- also VALVe. Beside, you have to own Fallout 2 in order to play FOnline (legally), so this would need to be connected. We can't provide all files for download. /Edit: Also you can't simply download Steamworks. You have to contact VALVe, show them the game, talk about all the legal stuff, etc. pp. It's part of a partner system, after all.
We tried to get 2238 on Desura, but currently this is not possible, because of technical issues (out of our hands).
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"because of valve" is not a reason at all. That really just doesn't cut it. Please be more detailed.
2. You wouldn't be trying to buy or sell anything. I don't see where Bethesda comes into this, They do not own the rights to fallout 1 or 2. Only the rights for making future games in the fallout universe.
Of course you have to own fallout 2. In an earlier post I even mentioned that for this idea to work, the downloader would have to own fallout 2, Potentially making Interplay like the game even more. As far as valve goes, Of course you have to contact valve and work it out with them, They aren't going to allow random people to put up games as they please.
--- Quote from: Andr3aZ on September 20, 2011, 11:23:38 AM ---I remember dozens of mods for the HL/HL2 engines downloadable on Steam / Steam-Works-able. Maybe its because of the fact that HL/HL2 engine is owned by VALVe, but maybe try it that way as Steam-supported mod? Only playable when Fallout2 is bought (F2 is avaible on Steam). Would encourage the purchase of F2 through Steam and maybe pleases VALVe and Bethesa. Of course the .dat files wont be downloaded when installing Fonline2238 via Steam, but a dialog pops up that lets you choose the location of your Fallout2 folder in your Steam-directory for the usage of the original .dat files or even automatically find the path to F2 in the Steam-directory (the installation paths are always the same, you can't alter them).
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Maybe i didn't make myself as clear as i could have when i first brought up the idea, You have put my idea into perspective, A steam supported mod was what i was getting at. Thanks :)
Once again, Bethesda has nothing to do with this.
The problem with the .critter and .dat could be fixed pretty easily, Especially if you have to own fallout2 through steam. A small script could automatically locate the files for you.
Haraldx:
--- Quote from: Henderson on September 19, 2011, 11:53:20 PM ---I don't think that is correct. There are plenty of free games that are available on steam, Games that have no microtransactions taking place. I.E. not making any money.
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Give me an example. As far as I can see, all the games there have *optional* microtransactions (Alien Swarm is an exception due to it not being updated or anything).
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