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[HertogJan]

Well i'm everything but developer but farming XP with repairing would be a exploit, since you can just get a pile of weared weapons and repair them, getting XP in no time...if you have enough stuff to repair.

You mean like farming xp with science is now?
No one is going to level an alt that way as it's way too slow.
Repair cooldown doesn't make much sense and is annoying as hell. If it's kept, it should be cumulative like gathering and crafting cooldowns. The 1 repair, wait 1 minute, another repair, another minute of waiting, ... leads to nothing except people wasting time. It's a game, that means playing not waiting.

[Rascal]

and ofcooz as I wrote before "smart" people can "walk over" that cooldown by opening 2/3 windows with repairing chars and repair big amount of stuff in a notime without feeling that stupid cooldown.
Cooldownds (minning/crafting/repairng doesnt matter) are encouraging alting.

I can answer you the same way:


Its MMO game my proposistion gona lead to more INTERACTION BETWEEN PLAYERS, u even dont play the game so u probalby dont know that wasteland are empty like hell. One of the reason is that players are sitting in their bases/tents gathering and crafting instead of cooperating to farm some stuff - qwllll really.

[Senocular]

Yeah, we all know that Fallout is an emulation of Counterstrike in 2d Isoperspective, not a game offering multiple solutions to any situtation, right.

First of all, FOnline is a game and just like any game it should be FUN. Mining and crafting feels like a job, only the richest can let themselves do some PvP as everyone else is afraid of losing his stuff. You craft something -> you lose it -> you can't craft it back quickly - not fun. Besides, forcing everyone to craft and doing basically EVERYTHING to stop people from farming (limiting numbers of encounters per player, making farmed weapons deterorated etc.) doesn't really sound like a "game offering multiple solutions to any situation".

PS. Now I know how Surf got his 150% speech!

[Surf]

"Fun" is being experienced in an objective manner. For one crafting is pure boredom, for the other one is enjoyable. So it would be nice to cease these general assumptions before you bother to post them.

[Rascal]

haha its like saying that "icecreams are tasty" isnt the thruth couse there are some people who dont like them....

[Reginmund]

Since there is a lot of "silly people this is shooting game" why not brainstorm a repeatable quest which may reward you with minerals/ores/fruit/fiber/you get the point now. So instead of you clicking button which doesn't involve shooting to get what you want, you click button to shoot and get what you want. You want player interaction, make it hard to do solo so you need to buddy up with one or two people (or more!).

[Surf]

Since there is a lot of "silly people this is shooting game" why not brainstorm a repeatable quest which may reward you with minerals/ores/fruit/fiber/you get the point now. So instead of you clicking button which doesn't involve shooting to get what you want, you click button to shoot and get what you want. You want player interaction, make it hard to do solo so you need to buddy up with one or two people (or more!).

Bitching about something is a lot easier and generally more preferred by a big chunk of our dear community than to actually do something.

[Rascal]

Since there is a lot of "silly people this is shooting game" why not brainstorm a repeatable quest which may reward you with minerals/ores/fruit/fiber/you get the point now. So instead of you clicking button which doesn't involve shooting to get what you want, you click button to shoot and get what you want. You want player interaction, make it hard to do solo so you need to buddy up with one or two people (or more!).

why quest ? U can just put inside those carvans (sf/ncr/reno etc.) some stuff like minerals/fibers and other crafting shit and its sloved.  Now carvans are funny couse they carry no stuff xD On reqiuem this system is working. Little balance and its good to go.

[Reginmund]

considering that it is "soon" till wipe i figure there is plenty of time where you could think up some ideas, plus if you go with the quests route of solving the problem you effectively add more content.

oh wait! what was i thinking, we dont need to shoot npcs for stuff in quests when we can shoot npcs for stuff just walking outside anyway and that stuff outside is already there...

[Czubasa]

"Fun" is being experienced in an objective manner. For one crafting is pure boredom, for the other one is enjoyable.

Waiting is never fun. And this is the biggest problem of 2238. Did someone really need repair cooldown? Really? Or very long crafting and gathering hq resources cooldown? Why i can't make 2 of P90 in one cooldown? Or why i can't make more than 300 pieces 223 ammo? That's why this way to get stuff isn't funny. It's just no effective. Maybe good in start. I make brotherhood armors only because i can't buy (or it's hard to find them in stores) but every time it's pissed me off. Yes - i do fast relogs and dug with 2 chars. But i am not feel guilty. This system forced me to make fast relogs.

[Surf]

Yes - i do fast relogs and dug with 2 chars. But i am not feel guilty. This system forced me to make fast relogs.

Bullshit.

If you do nothing but digging digging digging digging all the time no wonder it gets boring for you. Everything done all the time is getting repitive and boring. Are you forced to do everything at once all the time, rinse and repeat, then do the next batch of repitive tasks? No. You can just do something different with your character until the previous cooldown is set to 0 again. But oh no! People want instant gratification, autofellatio all the time! Why do play fair like everyone else, why be creative and don't have a character for each little task, why not go with your friends to mine or to some public unguarded mine to maybe even fight for the ressources, when people can just cheat like schoolchildren having to pass a test and then even have the nerves to openly admit in the forum. Way to go!
Oh the pity cheaters, they are "forced" to cheat. 

[Perteks]

Bullshit.

If you do nothing but digging digging digging digging all the time no wonder it gets boring for you. Everything done all the time is getting repitive and boring. Are you forced to do everything at once all the time, rinse and repeat, then do the next batch of repitive tasks? No. You can just do something different with your character until the previous cooldown is set to 0 again. But oh no! People want instant gratification, autofellatio all the time! Why do play fair like everyone else, why be creative and don't have a character for each little task, why not go with your friends to mine or to some public unguarded mine to maybe even fight for the ressources, when people can just cheat like schoolchildren having to pass a test and then even have the nerves to openly admit in the forum. Way to go!
Oh the pity cheaters, they are "forced" to cheat. 

Damn yea sure you can do something other to bad you cant go to any other town because it will take shitload time, cant go to unprotected towns because u will lose your minerals or time geting from respawn.

[Surf]

Dropping the previously mined ores/minerals at your tent while you do something different is not an option then?

[avv]

If you do nothing but digging digging digging digging all the time no wonder it gets boring for you. Everything done all the time is getting repitive and boring. Are you forced to do everything at once all the time, rinse and repeat, then do the next batch of repitive tasks? No. You can just do something different with your character until the previous cooldown is set to 0 again.

It's not fun to stop whatever you were doing and going mining every 20 mins. It's funnier to concentrate on one thing at a time and do it as effectively as possible.

But oh no! People want instant gratification, autofellatio all the time! Why do play fair like everyone else, why be creative and don't have a character for each little task, why not go with your friends to mine or to some public unguarded mine to maybe even fight for the ressources, when people can just cheat like schoolchildren having to pass a test and then even have the nerves to openly admit in the forum. Way to go!
Oh the pity cheaters, they are "forced" to cheat. 

People want to have fun. To have fun, they need items because items have comprehensive qualities. The more items they have, the more fun they can have because items are lost while having fun and they need to be replenished. Getting items, especially BAs and buffout isn't fun so people try to avoid this boredom the best they can, even by cheating. Plus they have friends that need services and help aswell, so some puny game rules are nothing compared to the urge to achieve shared victory with a team.

Seriously, don't hit the messenger. People here are telling how everyday things are ingame, handing out protips helps nothing. If problems related to cooldowns aren't acknowledged, players sure as hell won't stop cheating just because they are told not to. Banning won't help, nothing else will except changing the system cheat-proof. If nothing is done, players will just shrug and continue like always.

[Perteks]

Surf you just tell me about 1 of 3 option what i write what about rest ?

Damn yea sure you can do something other to bad you cant go to any other town because it will take shitload time, cant go to unprotected towns because u will lose your minerals or time geting from respawn.