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What character would you play ?

A mutant ! Slow, tough and powerful, that's me !
A ghoul ! Some crazy, slow and highly-intelligent sniper.
A human. A polyvalent char, yes sir !
I would try all of them, I have no favorite race.
I would prefer everyone to play humans characters.

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Author Topic: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?  (Read 20791 times)

Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2009, 11:58:56 pm »

Harold is smart, maybe little ugly, but charisma is not only appearance  ;D
whatever, maybe main skills will be same, but other races can have it different perks.


« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 12:03:22 am by AmneziaHaze »
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2009, 05:21:26 pm »

I think there is some confusion about charisma, because people (I mean NPCs) consider you as a ghoul (or as an ugly freak - you choose) when you talk to them with CHA 1.

I agree that you can be an abomination, but a charismatic abomination.

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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2009, 05:27:18 pm »

Well making Ghouls and Super Mutants is really good idea but making Ghouls really slow will make them unable to play, nobody will want to play as slow ghoul and will be pissed off. Super Mutants shouldn't have 1 intelligence, most Super Mutants are stupid but not all and giving them 1 Intelligence will make them unplayable too because 7 skill points for level is not that much :/ I think they should have minuses to SPECIAL like -2 or -4 to stats and +2, +4 to others but not like -9 or +9 because everyone is Special :D
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2009, 05:30:31 pm »

If you'll be a slow ghoul and try to go to NCR for workbench and then to exit grid you can probobly go sleep and then play again when your character is on the world map ....
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2009, 05:31:35 pm »

A walking ghoul is as fast as a normal walking player.
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2009, 05:34:09 pm »

its not this green abomination slow like hell ? slower than walking people ?
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2009, 05:40:11 pm »

A bit, yes. But I personally don't think that it matters much. And in emergency cases, we can speed it up a bit.

Anway.. ghouls and mutants will not be ingame in sooner future.
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2009, 03:40:22 am »

I don't see the problems with ghouls/mutants being charismatic - Harold and Lou certainly are. You just balance it out by having certain places with 'anti-mutant prejudices', like VC. Probably Reno.

I've always wondered why 'civilian' models aren't used as potential player models. Obviously the heavily armoured ones are best avoided to prevent confusion. But leather and below are fine. So long as you tell people that if they're Katja, for example, they can only use spears and smgs  and they can equip no armour beyond leather jackets (and then script it so they can't), what's the problem? Just talk to a guy in the little respawn house. It seems like a very easy way of making the world seem a lot more fresh and interesting.
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #23 on: December 27, 2009, 10:49:13 pm »

Don't forget deathclaws! The goris skin would be perfect for hth chars. It has all the animations and has one of the coolest looking animations where he throws down his robes. I think all the followers from F2 should be usuable depending on what skills you have tagged.
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2009, 09:25:23 am »

i think not only ghouls, mutants. you have in game many skins: doctors, warriors, farmers, junkies, prosititutes, kids, merchants, gnomes.. 60-70% of them has full fighting/shooting animations.
Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2009, 05:59:03 pm »

i think not only ghouls, mutants. you have in game many skins: doctors, warriors, farmers, junkies, prosititutes, kids, merchants, gnomes.. 60-70% of them has full fighting/shooting animations.

actually they don't, most have like 2 weapon animations and lack many of the less obvious animations.
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2009, 08:19:34 pm »

actually they don't, most have like 2 weapon animations and lack many of the less obvious animations.

you talking about "junkies, prosititutes and kids" - ok, right. now say something about ghouls in PA

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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2009, 09:52:44 pm »

Oh well, Ghouls can be pretty smart but I'd rather take down on their perception. You can say that a good portion of ghouls will be one eyed. The other half just might suffer all kinds of conditions, from having their eyes so exposed into the sun. I'm sure that their eyelids have either rotten away or the little muscle that controls it might be non-functional. I wouldn't be quick to make ghouls sharpshooters. They could have plenty of Endurance, instead. Hit Points is the amount of damage you can take, and ghouls can't take too much, but HP is split into Strength and Endurance. I agree to ghouls having low ST and high EN. They might not be very strong but they sure resist poison, radiation and pain.

Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2009, 02:56:30 am »

Oh well, Ghouls can be pretty smart but I'd rather take down on their perception. You can say that a good portion of ghouls will be one eyed. The other half just might suffer all kinds of conditions, from having their eyes so exposed into the sun. I'm sure that their eyelids have either rotten away or the little muscle that controls it might be non-functional. I wouldn't be quick to make ghouls sharpshooters. They could have plenty of Endurance, instead. Hit Points is the amount of damage you can take, and ghouls can't take too much, but HP is split into Strength and Endurance. I agree to ghouls having low ST and high EN. They might not be very strong but they sure resist poison, radiation and pain.



This goes totally against cannon since ghouls have always had superhuman perception and very low endurance.
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Re: Wanna play as a mutant or a ghoul?
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2009, 02:36:59 pm »

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now say something about ghouls in PA

One question - if Ghoul could wear PA, does PA able him to run (and gives other weapon animations)? You know, new, improved "body", new possibilities...
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