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Scavenging instead of crafting.

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vilaz:

--- Quote from: Eternauta on February 08, 2011, 11:10:49 PM ---...
-Scavenging: everyone can do this freely, and nobody will get mad at you if you do it. However, you will only get deteriorated and low tier gear. Scavenging could get an overhaul - getting metal from cars, for example, gunshop random encounters, etc...

-Crafting: low tier gear can be crafted freely, and will get you 0% det items. However, in order to craft some specific kind of tier 3 (and maybe even tier 2) items, you need to join a specific NPC faction which will give you blueprints once you get a certain reputation with them/complete some quest/something similar. Or you can buy the blueprint from a Player who belongs to that faction (and he will lower his reputation with them).

-Trading: you can freely trade low tier gear with most NPC merchants. But to get better gear, you need to trade with other Player driven factions, or with NPC merchants from NPC factions, and this requires a certain reputation with that NPC faction. If you belong to a NPC faction and trade the special items you get from them (crafted with their blueprints), you will lose reputation with your boss, no matter if you give those items to other players or to NPCs from another faction. The same happens if you sell their blueprints.

-Farming: you can do it almost freely. If you attack NPCs who belong to the same NPC faction as you, your reputation will be lowered. The same happens if you attack other Players who belong to that faction. Attacking NPCs who are "neutral" or belong to another faction might have no effect on your reputation, or maybe depending to the relationship they have with the faction you belong to...

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Sounds really tasty and makes lots of sense!

Probably I'm going to far but it would be interesting to have changing NPC faction politics. Something easy like every 96-192 Ingame hours reputation between NPC factions slightly change so everybody can notice it. At some point one faction can be in war with some other and after some time it can be back at cease fire or peace or anything. Players could act as their faction is telling him to.

Solar:

--- Quote ----Scavenging: everyone can do this freely, and nobody will get mad at you if you do it. However, you will only get deteriorated and low tier gear. Scavenging could get an overhaul - getting metal from cars, for example, gunshop random encounters, etc...
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Actually, so long as its infrequent enough, there should be no problem allowing more scavenging of the basic parts to craft.



--- Quote ----Crafting: low tier gear can be crafted freely, and will get you 0% det items. However, in order to craft some specific kind of tier 3 (and maybe even tier 2) items, you need to join a specific NPC faction which will give you blueprints once you get a certain reputation with them/complete some quest/something similar. Or you can buy the blueprint from a Player who belongs to that faction (and he will lower his reputation with them).
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Low tier will be free, the higher tiers will be limited by having to earn access to facilities and by getting blueprints via quests (Inside and outside of NPC factions - crafting won't be tied so closely to specific factions again)


--- Quote ----Trading: you can freely trade low tier gear with most NPC merchants. But to get better gear, you need to trade with other Player driven factions, or with NPC merchants from NPC factions, and this requires a certain reputation with that NPC faction. If you belong to a NPC faction and trade the special items you get from them (crafted with their blueprints), you will lose reputation with your boss, no matter if you give those items to other players or to NPCs from another faction. The same happens if you sell their blueprints.
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Trading will become a lot more controlled. You won't be able to trade crap directly for great items and low tech traders will have less access to caps, so its harder to sell crap for caps and then use those to buy great items.

Rep will also play more of a role in determining price - so if you want decent deals you will have to build relations with them


--- Quote ----Farming: you can do it almost freely. If you attack NPCs who belong to the same NPC faction as you, your reputation will be lowered. The same happens if you attack other Players who belong to that faction. Attacking NPCs who are "neutral" or belong to another faction might have no effect on your reputation, or maybe depending to the relationship they have with the faction you belong to.
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Farming needs to be harder and less profitable. Limiting the flow of crap -> good items is a start, but expect it to be harder to singlehandedly slaughter entire small countries worth of population :P


Opening up several ways to earn your crust is the aim anyway.

avv:

--- Quote from: Kilgore on February 08, 2011, 08:53:33 PM ---Wrong, if hunting rifle was the best gun you could get in the game, then yes, "your small gang" could "pwn anything" you wanted with it. It doesn't matter if it's vindicator, avenger, flamer or 10mm pistol, as long as it's the best (more or less) gun available. Of course it will look better when raiders use some stuff like hunting or assault rifle, but overall feeling of those that get raped by it doesn't change, does it?

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However hunting rifle isn't instapwn compared to for example plasma rifle. When you don't get instakilled by first shot, there's more room for tactics.

vilaz:

--- Quote from: Solar on February 09, 2011, 01:20:44 PM ---Trading will become a lot more controlled. You won't be able to trade crap directly for great items and low tech traders will have less access to caps, so its harder to sell crap for caps and then use those to buy great items.

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Less caps? Again? :(

Actual overflow of caps is because of bank interest. Everyone can multiply their cash in bank to the infinity but there still should be some place to get those caps from in beginning.

Solar:
On the traders willing to buy useless stuff, sure. Farming knives off farmers in encounters, turning them into loads of caps and then buying Plasma Rifles shouldn't be a reliable means of getting high end gear.

For the guys who deal in good stuff already - so harder encounters, crafting, etc - the amount of caps can be relatively similar to now.

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