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Title: About lags
Post by: Hololasima on April 10, 2010, 10:56:52 pm
Can someone explain why is this game so laggy after wipe ?
I think that nobody from Devs dont play PvP so they cant know that its imposible.
As sniper you cant fighting in "Hit and Run" style, you cant leveling character beacuse everything can kill you.

So what "season" we have right now and if it will continue.

And yes, for you this will be like :   "They again want some info about game, fuck"

Thanks for anwers
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Izual on April 10, 2010, 11:00:18 pm
Ok, I'll tell them to turn OFF the lag interruptor. Jeeze.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Lexx on April 10, 2010, 11:07:51 pm
Ok, I'll tell them to turn OFF the lag interruptor. Jeeze.

But then the world will asplode!
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Hololasima on April 10, 2010, 11:08:16 pm
Oh my GOD ! I tell something about magic button on stop lags ?

I want only info ! And if it will be continue for long time or they can repair it quickly !

Sometimes you called me about something what sounds like trolling.
Now you are troll here.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Lexx on April 10, 2010, 11:10:28 pm
If we would know what the issue is, we would fix it. As long as we don't know what it is, we can only test and try various things, which needs time (to test).
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Attero on April 10, 2010, 11:13:52 pm
You didnt call lagbusters?

and now srsly - how far you think you are ? checked 20% of stuf 50% 70% ? >< or maybe we dont wanna know...
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Hololasima on April 10, 2010, 11:15:42 pm
Well. You could not said this in your first post ? You had to be funny hm ?
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Lexx on April 10, 2010, 11:17:29 pm
You had to be funny hm ?

Yeah.

Quote
and now srsly - how far you think you are ? checked 20% of stuf 50% 70% ? >< or maybe we dont wanna know...

I don't know is all i can say.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Sius on April 10, 2010, 11:19:10 pm
Well. You could not said this in your first post ? You had to be funny hm ?

Well now you are trolling ;). Just take it as it its and stay calm. Remember they are the ones with banning rights on this forum.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Hololasima on April 10, 2010, 11:23:17 pm
Well now you are trolling ;). Just take it as it its and stay calm. Remember they are the ones with banning rights on this forum.

Its anoying when we must play in this lags and when i want some explain, so only thing what GM can is doing fun from me.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Wipe on April 10, 2010, 11:27:36 pm
Its anoying when we must play in this lags and when i want some explain, so only thing what GM can is doing fun from me.

*hugs Hololasima*

Bad GMs, bad! Very bad!
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Wichura on April 11, 2010, 12:19:20 am
I think that nobody from Devs dont play PvP so they cant know that its imposible.
So lags are only in PvP? Good to know, I'm not playing that way.

But hey, why lags concerns my char as well? And any other people I know? Strange.
Title: Lags?! Rollbacks?!
Post by: RestarT on April 11, 2010, 06:00:58 pm
What the f*ck is going on?
This game is so laggy! Game is down every half hour and rollbacks are really fucked... I was on wood with my friend, I had brahmin. Server fallen and there was rollback. After rollback I logged into game and I was in base, but my brahmin and all wood inside brahmin were gone, with my friend somwhere in world map! So I haven't got wood and brahmin. This is only one incident, before lunch I had another-I was killing floaters and centaurs with plasma pistol on RT. I got hit to hand, weapon on ground so I quickly took it and runned away from encounter. I had pistol in inventary, server fallen and after rollback I was on map without pistol.
Is this normal? Stupid lags, stupid crafting, stupid exping. This game is totally f*cked! I lost only brahmin, wood and plasma pistol, but this is hour of work!
So do something with this lags! Game is unplayable!

PS: I want my brahmin, cca 100 wood and plasma pistol back  ;D ;D


Merged
Title: Re: Lags?! Rollbacks?!
Post by: Deathmann on April 11, 2010, 06:07:11 pm
....

Some GM written here that is some bad in program on server and when it comes to filling RAM server restarts itself...
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: RavenousRat on April 11, 2010, 06:07:39 pm
Yeah I think server saving player position and player's inventory at different time, because for me it's normal to login at mine standing near rocks in BA and sniper rifle... lol? Sometimes rollbacks are nice, because I can bomb people at NCR twice! And the funniest things is when you login at respawn point with your gear! You watch at these naked bluesuiters with your weapon and armor!
About lags, devs said that they working on it and testing.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: RestarT on April 11, 2010, 06:07:55 pm
So lags are only in PvP? Good to know, I'm not playing that way.

But hey, why lags concerns my char as well? And any other people I know? Strange.
Lags aren't only in PvP, I don't mind lags in PvP now, I don't like lags when I'm trying pick up plant, but I must repeat click 5-6 times, same thing with mining and junk...
Title: Game Lag
Post by: puremalice on April 11, 2010, 06:10:36 pm
Hello everybody. I am opening this topic because of unplayable game lag. Before about 2 weeks everything was fine. I am from Bulgaria and I am playing FOnline from two cities in my country. Both my places have fiber optics and I have very fast connection to Internet - from my home - about 50Mbps downlink / 35Mbps uplink(where I am playing weekends from) and from my workplace which I am at at the most time - symmetric 100Mbps connection to internet. My question is - are there any changes in the server or there are just too many clients playing at each time, because as I said, before 2 weeks everything was playing very smooth - i had no more than 150msec lag. Now I have over 2 seconds lag - I mean, if I am in NCR and I am at the bazar, click down to the workbench in the garage, the lag could reach up to 10 seconds - in cities is not problem but in encounters in the wastes...
Is there any fix for the client or it serverside problem like ... not enough bandwidth?

Edit by Izual : Topics merged...
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Neuromancer on April 11, 2010, 07:27:06 pm
Hello everybody. I am opening this topic because of unplayable game lag. Before about 2 weeks everything was fine. I am from Bulgaria and I am playing FOnline from two cities in my country. Both my places have fiber optics and I have very fast connection to Internet - from my home - about 50Mbps downlink / 35Mbps uplink(where I am playing weekends from) and from my workplace which I am at at the most time - symmetric 100Mbps connection to internet. My question is - are there any changes in the server or there are just too many clients playing at each time, because as I said, before 2 weeks everything was playing very smooth - i had no more than 150msec lag. Now I have over 2 seconds lag - I mean, if I am in NCR and I am at the bazar, click down to the workbench in the garage, the lag could reach up to 10 seconds - in cities is not problem but in encounters in the wastes...
Is there any fix for the client or it serverside problem like ... not enough bandwidth?

Edit by Izual : Topics merged...


Hey - how much do you pay for your internet connection monthly? ( considering moving to Bulgaria )

As for the topic:
I did many incredible things thanks to this - check it out:
I menaged to be faster than light
Overtaken my line of sight
Teleported on world map

So maybe this isn't such bad at all ...

And seriously don't worry everybody hates lags ( gm's too I hope ) 
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Hololasima on April 11, 2010, 09:23:29 pm
Little joke about lags. Just one word for better understand "Impossible"

(http://img7.imgup.eu/vsbbbs.jpg)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Kilgore on April 11, 2010, 09:27:15 pm
Lol

btw check this out (part about VSB), see date

http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=699679#699679 (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=699679#699679)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Neuromancer on April 11, 2010, 09:45:42 pm
ROTFL
+1
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: West on April 12, 2010, 09:25:20 pm
devs cant do anything to stop this awesome disconects and rollbacks?
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: gordulan on April 13, 2010, 12:15:06 pm
they no has button, i haz stolez it from zhem.  8)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Wichura on April 13, 2010, 01:06:41 pm
Secret lag-making machine!
(http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/usb-doomsday-hub-3.jpg)
1 - lags being prepared
2 - lags being noticed by people with low-speed connection
3 - lags being noticed by people with high-speed connection
Big Red Button - down, rock&rollback, it is the moment when GM's are stealing our precious BB Guns from tents!
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: puremalice on April 14, 2010, 06:40:51 pm

Hey - how much do you pay for your internet connection monthly? ( considering moving to Bulgaria )

As for the topic:
I did many incredible things thanks to this - check it out:
I menaged to be faster than light
Overtaken my line of sight
Teleported on world map

So maybe this isn't such bad at all ...

And seriously don't worry everybody hates lags ( gm's too I hope ) 
Internet access here became very cheap with the years, in 2004 for my home connection I was paying about $20 for 8KBps (64kbps)
For the 100mbps connection pays the company I work for, but it is relatively cheap - $70. For my home connection now - $20 :)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: jodwig on April 15, 2010, 04:12:06 pm
Secret lag-making machine!
(http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/usb-doomsday-hub-3.jpg)
1 - lags being prepared
2 - lags being noticed by people with low-speed connection
3 - lags being noticed by people with high-speed connection
Big Red Button - down, rock&rollback, it is the moment when GM's are stealing our precious BB Guns from tents!

They have new model now, they can crash and rollback the sever instantly with out preparing lags before :)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Drakonis on April 17, 2010, 04:05:47 pm
turn off the lag generator please.. Game kicks me out literally every 5 minutes. What is the cause of these lags? Bad/cheap server or something else :\?
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Surf on April 17, 2010, 04:11:18 pm
There is a memory leak at the server files IIRC, they're working on it. ;)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Ghosthack on April 17, 2010, 04:13:23 pm
turn off the lag generator please.. Game kicks me out literally every 5 minutes. What is the cause of these lags? Bad/cheap server or something else :\?

We're doing server updates and fixes to try make it more stable. There was already some success. But it's too early to say if it's totally solved.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Drakonis on April 17, 2010, 04:13:53 pm
There is a memory leak at the server files IIRC, they're working on it. ;)

oooo surf. gratz on becoming a global mod. And thank you for the answer. I hope they fix it soon.


I'm trying the quests at the moment. Ah it's been a long time since I played. I must say I like the changes so far(encounters, gathering, Starting location). Also I'm enjoying the quests :]
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: puremalice on April 18, 2010, 02:46:59 am
awesome. here is 03:42 AM (GMT+2) and according to one of users' banner it said 135 people online - I don't know whether lag is from users or the server itself, but lag TOPS 2sec which is very playable. Before the lags was ~second but it looks like that you fixed the major lag cause.

P.S.  someone kicked the server - "server has to be restartet. we are back soon." cmooon dudes , I've just started playing lol

edit:
it seems to start lagging when I send the character to a distant point at the map. for ex. I am at my tent and send it from the left to the right exit grid and the lag constantly rises. if i change the destination the lag appears to degrade
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: FischiPiSti on April 18, 2010, 03:16:29 am
No it doesnt, its just placebo. The client keeps sending the data where you character went from where. For example if you run from one end of the map to the other, and step on the exit grid, then run back the way you came, you will end up on the world map, and the actions you made on the way back are lost. :/
Or when the melee raider chick with spear is chasing you around the map, and you go in circles, she wont come after you - where the client shows your character, but rather chase your "ghost". You could even run past her and she wont notice. However if she does hit your "ghost", server sends data to the client of the attack, and you will "rubberband" back to where the attack took place. This is why its so hard to run away from critters in RT, you just keep moonwalking back :S
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: puremalice on April 18, 2010, 03:28:55 am
No it doesnt, its just placebo. The client keeps sending the data where you character went from where. For example if you run from one end of the map to the other, and step on the exit grid, then run back the way you came, you will end up on the world map, and the actions you made on the way back are lost. :/
Yeah, I know that. I meant something else.
I'll try to explain it simpler - I am not stepping on the exit grid:
case 1: I aside the left exit grid ( tent area ) and double click next to the right exit grid
- I see that the lag is rising constantly until the character arrives at the destination.

case 2: I aside the left exit grid ( tent area ) and double click next to the right exit grid and in the middle of the path the character traveled, I change the destination point to another place, no matter where. Just before I change the destination, I see that ping is 2300msec, after I change the destination, on the next ping update, it drops to about 1500msec and drops every time I change the destination.
Is that really a placebo ?
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Gorlak on April 18, 2010, 09:08:10 am
I dont even know how you guys are getting these pings...take a look at this, few hours now, at 0

(http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/7693/e8dd4176922834.gif) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e8dd4176922834)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: virus341 on April 18, 2010, 09:14:16 am
I dont even know how you guys are getting these pings...take a look at this, few hours now, at 0

(http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/7693/e8dd4176922834.gif) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/e8dd4176922834)
It cant be 0, you know, even if you are in the room with the host.
Average ping is 140-1500 for me, 140 almost all times but with jumps to few secs, thats alright. Befor fix it was about 5-7k all the time.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: RavenousRat on April 18, 2010, 01:15:42 pm
I dont even know how you guys are getting these pings...take a look at this, few hours now, at 0
I have 0 ping with server when it's the end soon and I'll be disconnected. I think you lost connection with server. But you can "Exit" yourself and instantly login and it'll be ok.

Or when the melee raider chick with spear is chasing you around the map, and you go in circles, she wont come after you - where the client shows your character, but rather chase your "ghost". You could even run past her and she wont notice. However if she does hit your "ghost", server sends data to the client of the attack, and you will "rubberband" back to where the attack took place. This is why its so hard to run away from critters in RT, you just keep moonwalking back :S
Fighting in RT with such lags - suicide. I once shot at mantis' eyes and then tryed to run away, in like 12-15 seconds I was telelported to that place where I was shooting at him, and then I killed that one poor mantis, but other 6 started to bite me and total they did it for ~100 damage (that means, they was biting me all that time I was "running away").


As you can see you have almost no lag when:
1) Your character moving on 4-5 hexes and then stops for few seconds.
2) Your character don't move at all.

You have terrible delay and it rises when:
1) Your character running at very long distance, outrunning your real position, because really you running slower, because of lags your character moves at each hexes with little delay, as you can see at all other characters, but your.

That's all... you won't lag in any other condition.
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: puremalice on April 20, 2010, 10:59:26 pm
I am playing with <100msec lag with 450 players, so I assume that the problem is fixed and we are happy players again ? :)
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2010, 01:18:14 pm
I am playing with <100msec lag with 450 players, so I assume that the problem is fixed and we are happy players again ? :)

Happy players? What are these?  :D
Title: Re: About lags
Post by: virus341 on April 21, 2010, 01:34:14 pm
Happy players? What are these?  :D

Hey, don't be so pessimistic! :) There are some player who always moan about anything, but a lot of us are just fine and enjoy the game, especially due to decreasing lags