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Ok so lets have a nice fun game of what is the point. So basically what we do is write what is the point of a game feature which we do not like.
Let me start:
What is the point of walking with the m60?
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What is the point of this thread ?
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what is the point of this point?
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What is the point of walking with the m60?
simple answer. its a cheap bg and it powerful so in turn you have to walk.
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I find m60 walking a very good strategic feature. Either you choose the flexibility of lsw, brd perks for avenger or good firepower but slow movement of m60. It's balanced and good mechanics. It's just lsw and m60 aren't farmable anymore.
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It's just lsw and m60 aren't farmable anymore.
yes poor apes need to craft. >:(
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Or loot from enemy corpse :)
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Or loot from enemy corpse :)
But since no enemy apes have it, you are forced to craft. :(
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What is the point of walking with the m60?
To divide RT and TB modes even more.
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m60 is pretty good for being the only craftable bg available without plans, ive been doing more dmg in hinkley with it and 3xbrd than the avenger
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What is the point of legitimizing fastrelog?
What is the point of making TC more like toilet camping?
What is the point of having to make a dedicated lockpicking/traps expert to excavate lucrative junk from lockers?
What is the point to making Rangers 300+hp even though they drop fns you could get from raiders?
What is the point to having separate helmets, are you planing to mix and match fashion accessory's?
What is the point of replacing local gathering cooldowns with global resources respawn timer?
What is the point of removing ncr army encounters?
What is the point of making trade non existent?
What is the point of downgrading most encounters with 10mm smgs to greasers?
What is the point of decreasing the frequency of Unity vs Rogues encounters? Was the delete button just to0 obvious?
(the goal is to ruin the fun and make this a slog of shit right?)
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It's all an elaborate episode of punk'd
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What is the point of cut off almost all armors from game? (look at your metal armor retards!)
What is the point of working at something then stop it when is more bad that was before? (im about that session)
What is the point of nerf craft? (im about lower amount of craftable items)
What is the point of cut off mega power fist from game?
What is the point of tabacco?
What is the point of tabacco ferm?
What is the point of 80h, ncr army and brotherhood initiate?
What is the point of inability to craft drugs (yeah, spend over9000 hours in search of blueprints and find out that is not craftable)
What is the point of forcing everyone to do 5-6 alts for comfortable game?
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A new low...... Falst logging in hinkley, some people take this way to seriously.....
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What is the point of legitimizing fastrelog?
If it isn't "legit" people will just scout with proxies and we all know that. Might as well leave it free for everyone.
What is the point to making Rangers 300+hp even though they drop fns you could get from raiders?
Because 300 or 100, people will find a way to farm them (cough criple and crit burst cough)
What is the point to having separate helmets, are you planing to mix and match fashion accessory's?
Different stats?
What is the point of decreasing the frequency of Unity vs Rogues encounters?
What was the point of KEEPING it again? Oh yeah, easy effortless farming.
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What was the point of KEEPING it again? Oh yeah, easy effortless farming.
And that is a bad thing because? Its not about easy effortless farming its about waiting 10-20 minutes looking at red dots going across the screen until you find one encounter. Unity is not "easy and effortless" you need a decent character to farm them. I do not understand this community's thinking that having alot of stuff is a bad thing? In a game where you die alot and lose gear it seems kind of logical to have a stock pile of stuff?
Its not like unity has anything that is OP mini guns and rocket launchers? We have to wait 10-20 minutes trying to find ancounter? Its actually easier and faster to obtain avengers than it is mini guns. Also farming avengers you find an encounter every minute as opposed to 10 minutes.
Also speaking of unity what is the point of removing AP rockets from them?
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If it isn't "legit" people will just scout with proxies and we all know that. Might as well leave it free for everyone.
Because 300 or 100, people will find a way to farm them (cough criple and crit burst cough)
Different stats?
What was the point of KEEPING it again? Oh yeah, easy effortless farming.
Oh god, where to start, I thought my nap would be complete without some total tool defending obviously bad game design elements....
Well here goes, time to take the children to school...
Fastrelog, well it was a problem that some people abused in the past, so our solution was to incorporate the abuse as a routine feature this session? Uh ok, problem solved? This is akin to acknowledging that some people rape but since you can't 100% stop that, just hand out tubes of Vaseline.
Rangers, OMG becky so your telling me some people will cripple and crit burst them? Yeah, I can see how this is a tremendous problem exploited every day except if you want fns and 14mms uh, why not farm raiders?
Different stats on wearing helmets? I don't think this is a worthy argument deserving a rebuttal.
Farming Unity vs Rogues, is still possible and wasn't removed, now you just have to roll back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.... If that was a solution to effortless farming then congratulations.
There I feel smug and full of self esteem, your turn.
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whait is the point big armors durability penalty after death?
PAPER ARMORS :D for toilet control!!
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What is point in argueing and making threads like this anyways? When the most likely response we well get is...
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1110ynk.png)
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Unity is not "easy and effortless" you need a decent character to farm them.
ahahahahahahahahhaa, if entering a VS encounter, waiting for them to kill each other and then loot with your "strategically very well planned" isn't easy, then what is? The rest of the game must be REALLY hard for you..
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What was the point of KEEPING it again? Oh yeah, easy effortless farming.
what's the point in keeping guns beside pipe rifle in this game? easy, effortless farming.
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what's the point in keeping guns beside pipe rifle in this game? easy, effortless farming.
making your point 101
That's not even related :D
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Fastrelog, well it was a problem that some people abused in the past, so our solution was to incorporate the abuse as a routine feature this session? Uh ok, problem solved? This is akin to acknowledging that some people rape but since you can't 100% stop that, just hand out tubes of Vaseline.
Ha ha ;D , very well said.
Unfortunately players still ignore good points and arguments about this feature that should be limited in order to establish some kind of sensible game play for ... , yes i will say it again - majority of players. Small unknown cells of players that supposedly would abuse and bypass the timer if it's reimplemented shouldn't be a reason to not set the timer again , nor they would spoil the game for me and others alike at least certainly not on a regular basis , as it was possible to observe that previous season. The most important reason to not force everyone else to legitimate cheating , that just purely dis-balance normal game play and encourages alting witch was fought against by developers for a long time , now suddenly everything is upside down.
Timer last session wasn't perfect but it just needed to be improved upon not removed , now that this feature has been relaxed to the maximum , players come up with quite ridiculous stuff to defend it no matter what's said. It's like unlimited candy has been given to some kids , now try to convince them that they shouldn't eat candy too much , because it's bad. :)
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t-888 i bet your sorry hypocritical ass that if the timer goes away you will still quick-relog.
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ahahahahahahahahhaa, if entering a VS encounter, waiting for them to kill each other and then loot with your "strategically very well planned" isn't easy, then what is? The rest of the game must be REALLY hard for you..
LOL, Well you have obviously NEVER farmed unity in any serious manner. Your statement of running in there as a scavenger in realtime and watching the rogues kick the shit out of the Unity so that you can pick up all the Rocket launchers, minis, assault rifles and Lasers is the most asinine bullshit I have heard in a week, congratulations you just received the Fucktard of the week badge! Please play again.
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t-888 i bet your sorry hypocritical ass that if the timer goes away you will still quick-relog.
I think you meant if the timer is reimplemented not " goes away " , next time you start insulting me i advise you to learn proper english , comprehend what are you reading and writing , as well to not reply my posts if your so biased to me like many other " animals " here on forum. I still wonder how i have some decency and patience to reply to this garbage in a sensible manner , whatever so ...
i fast relogged last season , but then those were still 3 minutes. Never had the idea to bypass the whole timer entirely just like now there's none at all. He calls me a hypocrite , unbelievable.
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31:20 , 30:20 NCR Caravans vs Unity patrol , enjoy.
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LOL, Well you have obviously NEVER farmed unity in any serious manner. Your statement of running in there as a scavenger in realtime and watching the rogues kick the shit out of the Unity so that you can pick up all the Rocket launchers, minis, assault rifles and Lasers is the most asinine bullshit I have heard in a week, congratulations you just received the Fucktard of the week badge! Please play again.
trying to make dumb stuff look so elaborated and complex, cute
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Farm enclave vs pigrats and pick up avengers, gatlings and plasma rifles then? Should work, right? I hope I'm not being too elaborate and complex for you :) and I think everyone knows who the dumb shit is.
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ahahahahahahahahhaa, if entering a VS encounter, waiting for them to kill each other and then loot with your "strategically very well planned" isn't easy, then what is? The rest of the game must be REALLY hard for you..
And where exactly did I write that I go into unity encounters and wait for rogues vs unity to fight eachother and loot?
I go in unity encounters and kill them with my small gunner farmer, sometimes my PVP big gunner or a laser character whatever I am in the mood for. The complaint isn't the encounter is too hard its annoying trying to search for them waiting 10 minutes of staring at red dots, as opposed to begining of wipe where they would come up frequently.
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Unfortunately players still ignore good points and arguments about this feature that should be limited in order to establish some kind of sensible game play for ... , yes i will say it again - majority of players. Small unknown cells of players that supposedly would abuse and bypass the timer if it's reimplemented shouldn't be a reason to not set the timer again , nor they would spoil the game for me and others alike at least certainly not on a regular basis , as it was possible to observe that previous season. The most important reason to not force everyone else to legitimate cheating , that just purely dis-balance normal game play and encourages alting witch was fought against by developers for a long time , now suddenly everything is upside down.
Timer last session wasn't perfect but it just needed to be improved upon not removed , now that this feature has been relaxed to the maximum , players come up with quite ridiculous stuff to defend it no matter what's said. It's like unlimited candy has been given to some kids , now try to convince them that they shouldn't eat candy too much , because it's bad. :)
Ridiculous? It's not about "oh god, there are some cheaters, let's allow cheating to everyone!". I disagree with bringing back the old timer because I think it was a bad concept. It affected mainly non-pvp activities like crafting, trading and what not. I am not aware of any commercial game which would prevent a player from playing it.
31:20 , 30:20 NCR Caravans vs Unity patrol , enjoy.
Weren't all caravans encounters removed?
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Weren't all caravans encounters removed?
yes they where.
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yes they where.
LOLOLOLOL...
And "what is the point" of removing them?
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LOLOLOLOL...
And "what is the point" of removing them?
to troll us that is all. welcome to fonline 2238!
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I think you meant if the timer is reimplemented not " goes away " , next time you start insulting me i advise you to learn proper english , comprehend what are you reading and writing , as well to not reply my posts if your so biased to me like many other " animals " here on forum. I still wonder how i have some decency and patience to reply to this garbage in a sensible manner , whatever so ...
i fast relogged last season , but then those were still 3 minutes. Never had the idea to bypass the whole timer entirely just like now there's none at all. He calls me a hypocrite , unbelievable.
31:20 , 30:20 NCR Caravans vs Unity patrol , enjoy.
are you SURE that you never used quick-relog for tent alts?
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Quite sure , i used dual log for tent alts previous season and i just told you that i did fast relog. Only then those were 3 minutes instead of 10 and not 0 like now. Understand the difference between fast relogging then and now.
It affected mainly non-pvp activities like crafting, trading and what not.
Keep telling this to yourself how much do you want , it doesn't change the fact that we didn't see multiple waves of alts on a regular basis that dis-balanced normal PvP , personally i didn't see any waves of alts ever last season. I'm tired of repeating myself , get the point once in a while.
Weren't all caravans encounters removed?
Probably now it is , at the start of wipe they weren't removed.
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I'd just like to add that 0 minutes fast relog was possible last season. Way to achieve that was quite retarded but it got the job done :) Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that you used it, but there were lots of people that used it for sure, and I'm one of them as well.
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Ridiculous? It's not about "oh god, there are some cheaters, let's allow cheating to everyone!". I disagree with bringing back the old timer because I think it was a bad concept. It affected mainly non-pvp activities like crafting, trading and what not. I am not aware of any commercial game which would prevent a player from playing it.
Sorry, but this is a retarded excuse.
3 minutes, is not going to kill you. 3 minutes, is not of any real consequence, and it sure as hell doesn't prevent you from playing. Pretty sure I could log into any character of mine last session.
How in god's name is 3 minute relog timer going to affect trading? Trading takes several minutes at the least to set up then execute, that's plenty of time to get your items and character ready.
And how does it so awfully affect crafting? Really? go mine 22 minute cooldown wait 3 minutes to for crafter, craft 1-1.30 hour and you're done. Problem? O.o Hell, this era doesn't even HAVE cooldowns. Mine for an hour never need to relog on miner again for days to come.
Honestly, this is how I view this situation:
Last session - You worked your ass off behind the scenes for gear, which was pretty back-breaking work but you eventually got hold of the reins and it eventually got to smooth sailing; the reward was that PvP was like having a chocolate cake every day, and you could have it all if you paid, which paying was relatively easy once you got used to it. The cake tasted sweet.
This session - You work like... very little. You hardly do shit, you just pull the lever on a machine all day for big bucks. Now you can afford 20 cakes every day, but you can hardly eat them all. And honestly, the taste of cake is getting old...
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Last session - You worked your ass off behind the scenes for gear, which was pretty back-breaking work but you eventually got hold of the reins and it eventually got to smooth sailing; the reward was that PvP was like having a chocolate cake every day, and you could have it all if you paid, which paying was relatively easy once you got used to it. The cake tasted sweet.
This session - You work like... very little. You hardly do shit, you just pull the lever on a machine all day for big bucks. Now you can afford 20 cakes every day, but you can hardly eat them all. And honestly, the taste of cake is getting old...
ermmm no. you work hard this era more then last. last era i did not have to craft at all.the reason you have so much "cake" is because there is not alot of pvp because tc is fucked.
i have crafted more this era then last. not because its easy now. because its not its even harder. need bps for every little thing which if you get them yourself takes weeks and weeks. i crafted more this era because all armors get broken so fast like china armor and half of all items are no longer farmable.
alot of us like fast relog because we have not need to wait 3-10 min. without fast relog i would again need to dual log just to do simple things such as making a tent and crafting 1 item. need a simple grease gun last era needed to relog make the gun and wait 10 min to relog to use it. it was retarded and a waste of time.
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If you're crafting grease guns you're doing it wrong anyways ::).
I hate how everyone acts like they are alone, can't get a bud to make some shit alt to make share tent with character, so hard. You do not even need that, just buy a car and use it as a tent, jeese.
There are easier, far more interesting ways to get your gear you just need to bother to take a look.
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If you're crafting grease guns you're doing it wrong anyways ::).
use common sense ,it was a example.
btw in this game you are alone even with faction.
get used to fast relog or leave. its the best thing that came of this era.
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btw in this game you are alone even with faction.
??? Contradict yourself some more... :-*
get used to fast relog or leave.
LAWL.
You talk like you have the final say in the matter. Learn your place, unlike some people on this forum.
Dev's game. We're just here to provide feedback.
its the best thing that came of this era.
That is entirely up to debate. But it's clearly dependent on personal preference. In the end it must be measured whether it destroys the gameplay in the devs perspective. Considering they kept the relog timer for so freakin long, I see two reasons why this era it is removed:
1. They just fucking gave up, tired of cheaters cheating no matter what they do.
2. beta-test reasons. Make it easier to find bugs glitches etc.
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A new low...... Falst logging in hinkley, some people take this way to seriously.....
I hope ye' arn't serious, that sounds almost as bad as people cheating in video games or sports.
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Quite sure , i used dual log for tent alts previous season and i just told you that i did fast relog. Only then those were 3 minutes instead of 10 and not 0 like now. Understand the difference between fast relogging then and now.
ah so dual log is good, but quick-relog ain't? hypocrite.
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Too many logs, fast log, quick log, logger logs, log inside of a log, Dual log, single log, quad log, fat logs, skinny logs, login, log off. I think they should send all these logs to the lumber mill.
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Quite sure , i used dual log for tent alts previous season and i just told you that i did fast relog. Only then those were 3 minutes instead of 10 and not 0 like now. Understand the difference between fast relogging then and now.
Great, a cheater is telling me what's good and what's wrong. That's why I like the current situation, in previous season only you could dual log, only you could fast-relog and use all this dirty things for your benefit. You know what? To keep ex-cheaters more angry - I don't really care how many waves you send. For me it's better feeling to know, that I can use the same shit as you did in the previous season.
People who cheated were sending another wave of alts, that's only in your mind that such things didn't happen.
Sorry, but this is a retarded excuse.
3 minutes, is not going to kill you. 3 minutes, is not of any real consequence, and it sure as hell doesn't prevent you from playing. Pretty sure I could log into any character of mine last session.
You have apparently no idea what you are talking about. It wasn't 3 minutes, it was 10 minutes. So when you logged in, suddenly realized that you need to repair your car, you had to relog → 10 minutes of waiting, you repaired your vehicle → another 10 minutes of waiting to get back on your main character. I was always bad in mathematics but I think it's 20 minutes of waiting, isn't it? And that's what I was talking about.
Or maybe you dealt with that retarded system like T-888 did, the great cheater who's telling everybody how bad fastrelogs are, but he admits he used duals/fastrelogs and he is probably going to cheat no matter the countermeasures are.
For people who might think I use fast-relog a lot in this season, I will have to disappoint you. I don't want the old 3-10 mins timer back, because it was retarded, I barely have more than one combat character parked over WM, so mostly enemies spawn two or three waves of characters, not me or my team (though we did it few times as well).
So yeah, keep discussing but I will argue with anyone who thinks the previous relog system was good, because hell it wasn't.
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As far as I remember the timer was 10 minutes providing that you were in the game (playing) shorter than 3 minutes. Otherwise one could change a character within 3 minutes. So, you weren't able to change your character instantly - like you can at the moment.
Edit: Was "fast-relog" supposed to be possible to perform or it was just possible to do it? There is a difference.
I'm not going to quarrel, but it seemed to be shorter than 7-10 minutes to me.
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No, if you were in game 3 minutes you had to wait 7 minutes to relog on another character. As Bego and others said, it was possible to fast-relog and of course many people did it.
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I actually did some extensive testing on the relog system last season.
If you haven't reloged in previous 10 mins you can relog after 3 mins.
So if I join game and log in on alt 1 I can log in to alt 2 after 3 mins, if I want to re-log in on alt 1 I have to wait 10 mins from point of logging into alt 2. If I play alt 2 for 7 mins I can re-log to alt 1 after 3 mins.
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Kelin you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about. I actually feel sorry for you, if you seriously waited 10 minutes every time. :P
From my experience you could relog within 3 minutes onto any character twice and then 10 minute relog timer was put into effect.
*logs onto alt 1* *logs off, logs onto alt 2 (Takes 3 minutes)* *unlogs, logs into alt 1 again (takes 3 minutes)* *unlogs and logs onto alt 2 again (takes 10 minutes)
Course, pheonix could be right and I'm just delusional :P.
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Kelin you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about. I actually feel sorry for you, if you seriously waited 10 minutes every time. :P
From my experience you could relog within 3 minutes onto any character twice and then 10 minute relog timer was put into effect.
*logs onto alt 1* *logs off, logs onto alt 2 (Takes 3 minutes)* *unlogs, logs into alt 1 again (takes 3 minutes)* *unlogs and logs onto alt 2 again (takes 10 minutes)
Course, pheonix could be right and I'm just delusional :P.
ok, so how would i be able to make multiple tents on the same character?
3 minutes is a lot anyway for some shitty tasks.
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ok, so how would i be able to make multiple tents on the same character?
ask a favor from a friend?
3 minutes is a lot anyway for some shitty tasks.
plan your day to make sure you do all tasks on each character when your logged in to it instead of relogging for every little thing.
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Kelin you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about. I actually feel sorry for you, if you seriously waited 10 minutes every time. :P
That's pure reality, if you just logged in and was ingame only few seconds, there was a 10 minutes relog timer. I don't understand why people tend to forget after some time.
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ask a favor from a friend?plan your day to make sure you do all tasks on each character when your logged in to it instead of relogging for every little thing.
what if i have no friends? what if i forget to do something? why do some crap tasks have to turn into an EVEN BIGGER waste of time, just because you and others won't admit that the system was flawed?
look, i think the only thing that gets affected with quick-relog is the combat. so put a cooldown when you log in (let's say 4-5 minutes) and until that cooldown goes off, your combat skills get -100% penalty. problem solved.
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That's pure reality, if you just logged in and was ingame only few seconds, there was a 10 minutes relog timer. I don't understand why people tend to forget after some time.
I never experienced this. so how i could forget?
what if i have no friends? what if i forget to do something? why do some crap tasks have to turn into an EVEN BIGGER waste of time, just because you and others won't admit that the system was flawed?
Current system is even worse. It's no fun, and only promotes even MORE grinding, MORE wasting of time, MORE etc. It's fucking ridiculous. it's like other mmo games, you need max level 100+ to even have fun in pvp with full gear and shits but it takes a year to get there. fucking ludicrous. except in this game, that limit never ends. You just keep levelling and levelling and levelling until you, in this games case, have amassed such a large army of character you can destroy virtually anyone by just swarming with endless shit.
look, i think the only thing that gets affected with quick-relog is the combat. so put a cooldown when you log in (let's say 4-5 minutes) and until that cooldown goes off, your combat skills get -100% penalty. problem solved.
similar to javonka's idea aint it? I like it, yes.
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When I was researching the re-log timer I was using a stopwatch to the point that I was like
*What! I cant log in yet?*
This gave me very accurate results which I was recording at the time. Unfortunately I have since disposed of my notes due to timer being removed.
So yes you are delusional. :P
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I never experienced this. so how i could forget?
Current system is even worse. It's no fun, and only promotes even MORE grinding, MORE wasting of time, MORE etc. It's fucking ridiculous.
and it's even MORE annoying and ridiculous if you can't quick-relog.
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and it's even MORE annoying and ridiculous if you can't quick-relog.
if it wasn't for quick-relog you wouldn't need to do nearly as much grinding, what the fuck? have you even played current pvp any?
You die, you just fast relog onto one of your 20 alts on worldmap. So you have to level 20 characters to full to be effective. Not to mention grinding for all of their gear. It's bull-shit.
last era, 1 characters was okay. 2 was prime, 3 was over-achiever. At least in most cases.
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Michael , were on the same page , i can agree on pretty much everything you write here.
plan your day to make sure you do all tasks on each character when your logged in to it instead of relogging for every little thing.
This.
Great, a cheater is telling me what's good and what's wrong. That's why I like the current situation, in previous season only you could dual log, only you could fast-relog and use all this dirty things for your benefit.
People who cheated were sending another wave of alts, that's only in your mind that such things didn't happen.
I couldn't care less fuck about your opinion.
... you don't even understand basic game mechanics , so i will tell you what's wrong and right when i want. Get it ? Cheater he calls me , you don't recall much from last session right ? Those few taxis and scouts really made us so bad cheaters , i mean seriously are you for real ? Now you are whining about waves of alts , because of current system witch you defend. What the fuck ? Just please , bring on the butt hurt about SOT , i want to hear more biased usual bullshit , like there wouldn't be enough shit spit out every day already.
What's in your head is just lack of experience and basic awareness of what's going on. I tell , players do that it was possible to do quality PVP with 1 character last session , you still moan about waves of characters. There's no logic in that. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? Should i repeat myself ?
It's no fun, and only promotes even MORE grinding, MORE wasting of time, MORE etc.
Players don't get it , their too blinded that now they can fix a car whenever they want if they forgot , see now that's the most IMPORTANT thing about current season. Well ... what can i say. Everything has already been said , maybe over time players will understand , but i wouldn't count on that.
You die, you just fast relog onto one of your 20 alts on worldmap. So you have to level 20 characters to full to be effective. Not to mention grinding for all of their gear. It's bull-shit.
There's the trick. Those who defend this system , haven't played enough PVP this session and isn't playing. They moan about waves of characters , they don't have any of their own but defend current system no matter what the cost. They can't compete in PVP and call others cheaters and make some stupid excuses to justify this ridiculous system. I can't make any sense out of this ... maybe when they will understand that they have to grind all that gear and alts to enjoy normal PVP , then they might reconsider. While this system exists , there will be always someone who will bring in waves of characters on a regular basis ( goddammit , don't even try to mention last session and that there's always someone who would cheat no matter what system if you don't understand the difference between now and then. ). So sooner or later they will need their own waves of characters , whether they like it or not.
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I couldn't care less fuck about your opinion.
... you don't even understand basic game mechanics , so i will tell you what's wrong and right when i want. Get it ? Cheater he calls me , you don't recall much from last session right ? Those few taxis and scouts really made us so bad cheaters , i mean seriously are you for real ? Now you are whining about waves of alts , because of current system witch you defend. What the fuck ? Just please , bring on the butt hurt about SOT , i want to hear more biased usual bullshit , like there wouldn't be enough shit spit out every day already.
lol lol lol (triple-lol), where did you read that I'm whining about waves of alts? I don't really care if you spawn a hundred or several thousands of your alts on me. That's the point, I'm defending this system even though you use fastrelogs more than me, what a paradox. Why are you even mentioning SoT? I didn't say a word about your team, you are simply putting words into my mouth.
Btw those "few" taxis made you a bad cheater, because you had noticable advantage over other players who played fair and were forced to wait like idiots for 3-10 minutes, still don't get it?
There's the trick. Those who defend this system , haven't played enough PVP this session and isn't playing. They moan about waves of characters , they don't have any of their own but defend current system no matter what the cost. They can't compete in PVP and call others cheaters and make some stupid excuses to justify this ridiculous system. I can't make any sense out of this ... maybe when they will understand that they have to grind all that gear and alts to enjoy normal PVP , then they might reconsider.
Yea sure blablablah you played more pvp this session than me, keep dreaming.
While this system exists , there will be always someone who will bring in waves of characters on a regular basis ( goddammit , don't even try to mention last session and that there's always someone who would cheat no matter what system if you don't understand the difference between now and then. ). So sooner or later they will need their own waves of characters , whether they like it or not.
As I told you many times, I know that this is true. There's never been so many fastrelogs, whole teams sending another waves of alts... I see the difference. I never said this is good. But since there is no better solution, yet, from my point of view free fastrelog is still better solution than 3-10 mins relog timer.
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lol lol lol (triple-lol), where did you read that I'm whining about waves of alts? I don't really care if you spawn a hundred or several thousands of your alts on me. That's the point, I'm defending this system even though you use fastrelogs more than me, what a paradox. Why are you even mentioning SoT? I didn't say a word about your team, you are simply putting words into my mouth.
So stop mindlessly calling me a cheater , i'm a part of SoT. If you think i'm a bad cheater then tell me one good reason why i shouldn't think that you think that the whole team is ? I mean you don't know anything about me or us , nor how i am playing or we are playing at the moment , nor how did i or we played last session. Keep mouth shut , i don't want another falloutdude who defends this system , but at the same time points fingers at us using waves of characters. Tired of reading garbage , excuse me.
Btw those "few" taxis made you a bad cheater, because you had noticable advantage over other players who played fair and were forced to wait like idiots for 3-10 minutes, still don't get it?
I do get everything , like who didn't use taxi or scouts last session , i can't name one team. Sure you set up a timer in a town and we get to that town fast enough to defend it , what a horrible advantage ... it makes sense to do so if you think a little bit.
Yea sure blablablah you played more pvp this session than me, keep dreaming
I don't recall that you had many towns to defend , whatever.
As I told you many times, I know that this is true. There's never been so many fastrelogs, whole teams sending another waves of alts... I see the difference. I never said this is good. But since there is no better solution, yet, from my point of view free fastrelog is still better solution than 3-10 mins relog timer.
Simple 3 minutes is much better than what is going on , especially since dual logging is allowed for pretty much everything except advantage in PVP , so you could keep some repair/taxi on second log and log in with it when you need , no matter those 3 minutes and those minutes is nothing if you just keep in mind what you have to do with the existing characters with whom you are logged in. There are better solutions than that suggested by players , but developers haven't given any response and there's plenty more players that keep defending this system with ridiculous means.
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You were only part of rogues last session which had proxy bluesuits everywhere, and fast relogged and many of the ex-rogue member from last wipe were giving out the fast-log, dual log program like candy.
Also alot people got banned using this program and never understood why other factions like yours didn't. I can understand why they call you a cheater t-888, you are associated with the faction that used made and distrubted the fast log dual log program.
Although rogues was not the only faction who fast logged last wipe. But rogues was most natorious for it.
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Sure of course , you know better than me. Silly me.
I don't talk much about other factions , because simply i am not a part of them thus can't speak with certainty , i think there's a lesson here.
I personally got 4 level capped builds banned last session , shit just let's due without garbage of your knowledge about rogues okay ?
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Sure of course , you know better than me. Silly me.
I don't talk much about other factions , because simply i am not a part of them thus can't speak with certainty , i think there's a lesson here.
I personally got 4 level capped builds banned last session , shit just let's due without garbage of your knowledge about rogues okay ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4VbOHvaPRc
You just proved everybody's point, if they implamented a fast log timer you would still abuse it like last session and dual log, simply put you're a cheater. And you know I know 2 guys who used to be in rogues and these 2 guys were giving links to download fast log / dual log programs to everybody on mumble last wipe so I know more than you think, ok maybe rogues didn't "invent it" but lets see 2 former rogue members, you put two and two together...
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What is the point in evrey pots becames a t-888 and community argueing fast logs.
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What is the point in learning english and grammer?
What is the point in evrey pots becames a t-888 and community argueing fast logs.
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youz is so stupid serious clown you thunk you pots are phuny but they are not. Fats log is no cheating why everyone alway argu wit t-888 on here this topic about what is point of stupid game fetures not argueing fats log and how t-888 is cheater.
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youz is so stupid serious clown you thunk you pots are phuny but they are not. Fats log is no cheating why everyone alway argu wit t-888 on here this topic about what is point of stupid game fetures not argueing fats log and how t-888 is cheater.
Says the guy who doesn't know how to write english. What's a fats log? I didn't know we could do fat logs in this game.
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youz is so stupid serious clown you thunk you pots are phuny but they are not. Fats log is no cheating why everyone alway argu wit t-888 on here this topic about what is point of stupid game fetures not argueing fats log and how t-888 is cheater.
Yours Englisz is almost that good as my friends Polish
(greatings 4 U PolakDuzy:)
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btw in this game you are alone even with faction.
??? Contradict yourself some more... :-*LAWL.
I don't think you understood what he meant..
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So stop mindlessly calling me a cheater , i'm a part of SoT. If you think i'm a bad cheater then tell me one good reason why i shouldn't think that you think that the whole team is ? I mean you don't know anything about me or us , nor how i am playing or we are playing at the moment , nor how did i or we played last session. Keep mouth shut , i don't want another falloutdude who defends this system , but at the same time points fingers at us using waves of characters. Tired of reading
lol you moron i dont defend that fast logging in pvp is good i defend that its good for crafting and making tents.
also i dont do waves like you. i do just fine with 1 alt owm and am still able to stand there and kill a couple of your waves so shut the fuck up. if you really are against this fast logging in pvp then STOP. fuck of all the sot i see that fr you have the most alts owm. so really practice before you preach.