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[Aquare]

As far as I remember the timer was 10 minutes providing that you were in the game (playing) shorter than 3 minutes. Otherwise one could change a character within 3 minutes. So, you weren't able to change your character instantly - like you can at the moment.
   Edit: Was "fast-relog" supposed to be possible to perform or it was just possible to do it? There is a difference.
I'm not going to quarrel, but it seemed to be shorter than 7-10 minutes to me.

[Kelin]

No, if you were in game 3 minutes you had to wait 7 minutes to relog on another character. As Bego and others said, it was possible to fast-relog and of course many people did it.

[ThePhoenix77]

I actually did some extensive testing on the relog system last season.


If you haven't reloged in previous 10 mins you can relog after 3 mins.


So if I join game and log in on alt 1 I can log in to alt 2 after 3 mins, if I want to re-log in on alt 1 I have to wait 10 mins from point of logging into alt 2. If I play alt 2 for 7 mins I can re-log to alt 1 after 3 mins.

[Michaelh139]

Kelin you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about.  I actually feel sorry for you, if you seriously waited 10 minutes every time.

From my experience you could relog within 3 minutes onto any character twice and then 10 minute relog timer was put into effect.

*logs onto alt 1*  *logs off, logs onto alt 2 (Takes 3 minutes)* *unlogs, logs into alt 1 again (takes 3 minutes)*  *unlogs and logs onto alt 2 again (takes 10 minutes)

Course, pheonix could be right and I'm just delusional .

[DeputyDope]

Kelin you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about.  I actually feel sorry for you, if you seriously waited 10 minutes every time.

From my experience you could relog within 3 minutes onto any character twice and then 10 minute relog timer was put into effect.

*logs onto alt 1*  *logs off, logs onto alt 2 (Takes 3 minutes)* *unlogs, logs into alt 1 again (takes 3 minutes)*  *unlogs and logs onto alt 2 again (takes 10 minutes)

Course, pheonix could be right and I'm just delusional .

ok, so how would i be able to make multiple tents on the same character?

3 minutes is a lot anyway for some shitty tasks.

[Michaelh139]

ok, so how would i be able to make multiple tents on the same character?

ask a favor from a  friend?

3 minutes is a lot anyway for some shitty tasks.

plan your day to make sure you do all tasks on each character when your logged in to it instead of relogging for every little thing.

[Kelin]

Kelin you are the one who has no idea what he is talking about.  I actually feel sorry for you, if you seriously waited 10 minutes every time.

That's pure reality, if you just logged in and was ingame only few seconds, there was a 10 minutes relog timer. I don't understand why people tend to forget after some time.

[DeputyDope]

ask a favor from a  friend?plan your day to make sure you do all tasks on each character when your logged in to it instead of relogging for every little thing.

what if i have no friends? what if i forget to do something? why do some crap tasks have to turn into an EVEN BIGGER waste of time, just because you and others won't admit that the system was flawed?

look, i think the only thing that gets affected with quick-relog is the combat. so put a cooldown when you log in (let's say 4-5 minutes) and until that cooldown goes off, your combat skills get -100% penalty. problem solved.

[Michaelh139]

That's pure reality, if you just logged in and was ingame only few seconds, there was a 10 minutes relog timer. I don't understand why people tend to forget after some time.

I never experienced this. so how i could forget?

what if i have no friends? what if i forget to do something? why do some crap tasks have to turn into an EVEN BIGGER waste of time, just because you and others won't admit that the system was flawed?

  Current system is even worse.  It's no fun, and only promotes even MORE grinding, MORE wasting of time, MORE etc.  It's fucking ridiculous.  it's like other mmo games, you need max level 100+ to even have fun in pvp with full gear and shits but it takes a year to get there.  fucking ludicrous.   except in this game, that limit never ends.  You just keep levelling and levelling and levelling until you, in this games case, have amassed such a large army of character you can destroy virtually anyone by just swarming with endless shit.

look, i think the only thing that gets affected with quick-relog is the combat. so put a cooldown when you log in (let's say 4-5 minutes) and until that cooldown goes off, your combat skills get -100% penalty. problem solved.

similar to javonka's idea aint it?  I like it, yes.

[ThePhoenix77]

When I was researching the re-log timer I was using a stopwatch to the point that I was like
*What! I cant log in yet?*
This gave me very accurate results which I was recording at the time. Unfortunately I have since disposed of my notes due to timer being removed.


So yes you are delusional.

[DeputyDope]

I never experienced this. so how i could forget?
  Current system is even worse.  It's no fun, and only promotes even MORE grinding, MORE wasting of time, MORE etc.  It's fucking ridiculous. 

and it's even MORE annoying and ridiculous if you can't quick-relog.

[Michaelh139]

and it's even MORE annoying and ridiculous if you can't quick-relog.

if it wasn't for quick-relog you wouldn't need to do nearly as much grinding, what the fuck?  have you even played current pvp any?

You die, you just fast relog onto one of your 20 alts on worldmap.  So you have to level 20 characters to full to be effective.  Not to mention grinding for all of their gear. It's bull-shit.

last era, 1 characters was okay.  2 was prime, 3 was over-achiever.  At least in most cases.

[T-888]

Michael , were on the same page , i can agree on pretty much everything you write here.

plan your day to make sure you do all tasks on each character when your logged in to it instead of relogging for every little thing.

This.

Great, a cheater is telling me what's good and what's wrong. That's why I like the current situation, in previous season only you could dual log, only you could fast-relog and use all this dirty things for your benefit.

People who cheated were sending another wave of alts, that's only in your mind that such things didn't happen.

I couldn't care less fuck about your opinion.

... you don't even understand basic game mechanics , so i will tell you what's wrong and right when i want. Get it ? Cheater he calls me , you don't recall much from last session right ? Those few taxis and scouts really made us so bad cheaters , i mean seriously are you for real ? Now you are whining about waves of alts , because of current system witch you defend. What the fuck ? Just please , bring on the butt hurt about SOT , i want to hear more biased usual bullshit , like there wouldn't be enough shit spit out every day already.

What's in your head is just lack of experience and basic awareness of what's going on. I tell , players do that it was possible to do quality PVP with 1 character last session , you still moan about waves of characters. There's no logic in that. DO YOU UNDERSTAND ? Should i repeat myself ?

It's no fun, and only promotes even MORE grinding, MORE wasting of time, MORE etc.

Players don't get it , their too blinded that now they can fix a car whenever they want if they forgot , see now that's the most IMPORTANT thing about current season. Well ... what can i say. Everything has already been said , maybe over time players will understand , but i wouldn't count on that.

You die, you just fast relog onto one of your 20 alts on worldmap.  So you have to level 20 characters to full to be effective.  Not to mention grinding for all of their gear. It's bull-shit.

There's the trick. Those who defend this system , haven't played enough PVP this session and isn't playing. They moan about waves of characters , they don't have any of their own but defend current system no matter what the cost. They can't compete in PVP and call others cheaters and make some stupid excuses to justify this ridiculous system. I can't make any sense out of this ... maybe when they will understand that they have to grind all that gear and alts to enjoy normal PVP , then they might reconsider. While this system exists , there will be always someone who will bring in waves of characters on a regular basis ( goddammit , don't even try to mention last session and that there's always someone who would cheat no matter what system if you don't understand the difference between now and then. ). So sooner or later they will need their own waves of characters , whether they like it or not.

[Kelin]

I couldn't care less fuck about your opinion.

... you don't even understand basic game mechanics , so i will tell you what's wrong and right when i want. Get it ? Cheater he calls me , you don't recall much from last session right ? Those few taxis and scouts really made us so bad cheaters , i mean seriously are you for real ? Now you are whining about waves of alts , because of current system witch you defend. What the fuck ? Just please , bring on the butt hurt about SOT , i want to hear more biased usual bullshit , like there wouldn't be enough shit spit out every day already.

lol lol lol (triple-lol), where did you read that I'm whining about waves of alts? I don't really care if you spawn a hundred or several thousands of your alts on me. That's the point, I'm defending this system even though you use fastrelogs more than me, what a paradox. Why are you even mentioning SoT? I didn't say a word about your team, you are simply putting words into my mouth.

Btw those "few" taxis made you a bad cheater, because you had noticable advantage over other players who played fair and were forced to wait like idiots for 3-10 minutes, still don't get it?

There's the trick. Those who defend this system , haven't played enough PVP this session and isn't playing. They moan about waves of characters , they don't have any of their own but defend current system no matter what the cost. They can't compete in PVP and call others cheaters and make some stupid excuses to justify this ridiculous system. I can't make any sense out of this ... maybe when they will understand that they have to grind all that gear and alts to enjoy normal PVP , then they might reconsider.

Yea sure blablablah you played more pvp this session than me, keep dreaming.

While this system exists , there will be always someone who will bring in waves of characters on a regular basis ( goddammit , don't even try to mention last session and that there's always someone who would cheat no matter what system if you don't understand the difference between now and then. ). So sooner or later they will need their own waves of characters , whether they like it or not.

As I told you many times, I know that this is true. There's never been so many fastrelogs, whole teams sending another waves of alts... I see the difference. I never said this is good. But since there is no better solution, yet, from my point of view free fastrelog is still better solution than 3-10 mins relog timer.

[T-888]

lol lol lol (triple-lol), where did you read that I'm whining about waves of alts? I don't really care if you spawn a hundred or several thousands of your alts on me. That's the point, I'm defending this system even though you use fastrelogs more than me, what a paradox. Why are you even mentioning SoT? I didn't say a word about your team, you are simply putting words into my mouth.

So stop mindlessly calling me a cheater , i'm a part of SoT. If you think i'm a bad cheater then tell me one good reason why i shouldn't think that you think that the whole team is ? I mean you don't know anything about me or us , nor how i am playing or we are playing at the moment , nor how did i or we played last session. Keep mouth shut , i don't want another falloutdude who defends this system , but at the same time points fingers at us using waves of characters. Tired of reading garbage , excuse me.

Btw those "few" taxis made you a bad cheater, because you had noticable advantage over other players who played fair and were forced to wait like idiots for 3-10 minutes, still don't get it?

I do get everything , like who didn't use taxi or scouts last session , i can't name one team. Sure you set up a timer in a town and we get to that town fast enough to defend it , what a horrible advantage ... it makes sense to do so if you think a little bit.

Yea sure blablablah you played more pvp this session than me, keep dreaming

I don't recall that you had many towns to defend , whatever.

As I told you many times, I know that this is true. There's never been so many fastrelogs, whole teams sending another waves of alts... I see the difference. I never said this is good. But since there is no better solution, yet, from my point of view free fastrelog is still better solution than 3-10 mins relog timer.

Simple 3 minutes is much better than what is going on , especially since dual logging is allowed for pretty much everything except advantage in PVP , so you could keep some repair/taxi on second log and log in with it when you need , no matter those 3 minutes and those minutes is nothing if you just keep in mind what you have to do with the existing characters with whom you are logged in. There are better solutions than that suggested by players , but developers haven't given any response and there's plenty more players that keep defending this system with ridiculous means.