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Other => FOnline:2238 Forum => Archives => Gang Issues => Topic started by: jacky. on April 05, 2012, 03:03:17 pm
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topicc about curret situation in north towns:
klamath - some chinesse
den - sot
modoc - bbs
gecko - cs
redding - sot/coa
bh - sot
I would like to see redding in lemark hands because this town will get some life. there are only 3 sides now in pvp tc cs,bbs,sot. all smaller gangs must to think how to get more pl or make one alliance or they will just vanish
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Most of the time we from TSAR control den-and the chinese guys are called WNO and are our allies
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from what I've seen the last weeks, BBS are mostly 8-9 guys. That would be a number we are able to attack as well.
However, 14cs with militia is nothing we'd attack, on a regular basis anyways. Hence us not being listed in the active gangs, I guess.
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yesterday i played my first pvp since 2 months and what i can say ? - im fucking dissapointed of current situation on fonline.. its all about quadra-proxy logs, op-sneakers, miltia and insuliting ohter teams - really sad.
rip fonline
btw.any team have plans to actually do something different in northen towns?
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Isnt it what SoT used to do since 2 months? Other teams learned from 'teh best', that's all.
Multilogs(waves of alts), SD sneakers, militia, insults - SoT in the pill. Don't expect something different from the others ;)
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Wait what klamath - some chinesse they camping klamath?
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I would say...
klamath - wno
den - sot/Tsar
modoc - bbs/vsb
gecko - cs/bbs/hawks
redding - sot/coa
bh - sot
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bbs are 12 not 8 ;D and CS dont use militia any more. miliita is bugged.
maner and you forgot about bombers sneakers.
"fighting with militia" :D pleas...yersterday when we were in bh you rushed us with sneakers and later you added 20muties to militia and rushed with it against us. but you get pwned and we killed all your mutants and your alts so stop be a hypocrite.
it was sot who use sd and fast relogs in large ammount, we learned from sot their "uber butthurt skill"
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and dear sot. i like fight with bbs and we are trying to not troll in the fight, we kill,die,loose,win...all for funn not "i must win win win and call them noobs" like sot
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No Hawks? ??? We regularly fight in Gecko mostly with BBS.
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is it really hawks`? all these american and french hawks-core members eh.
it's actually quite confusing with such a loose alliance. When there's like 12 "hawks" inside I can only see 3 actual hawks in there, though I obviously have no idea about the actual lineup.
Then again, we have to keep in mind that it's eater now, lot of people on break so hopefully things will get a bit tougher in a week.
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is it really hawks`? all these american and french hawks-core members eh.
it's actually quite confusing with such a loose alliance. When there's like 12 "hawks" inside I can only see 3 actual hawks in there, though I obviously have no idea about the actual lineup.
Then again, we have to keep in mind that it's eater now, lot of people on break so hopefully things will get a bit tougher in a week.
more than half is Hawks in most battles, every other members of different factions has quit. ::)
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it's actually quite confusing with such a loose alliance. When there's like 12 "hawks" inside I can only see 3 actual hawks in there, though I obviously have no idea about the actual lineup.
You have 1 perception in real life. But yes hawks is made up of 9 americans and 3 czech players, and a there is a sneaker from nigeria. Then there is that sniper from jamaca. Hawks also have a guy from Saudi Arabia.
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hawks membership is so confusing the members don't know what faction they are in
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i have question to gang members becouse we (sot) had some moratlity issues.
what is vicotry for you in tc skirmish?
defeat much more numerous enemy - for example 10vs20.
loot more then your enemies, no matter how many casualties. just loot!
be a last team leaving city / last mantand
maybe something totaly different?
i would definitely choose option number one. the problem is - at the moment is almost impossible to do such thing becouse of mass alting, fucked tc and many other things. yea some gangs can blame part of the sot of that - lol.. to have convenient excuse for cheating.
two years ago we had nice feature called "TC WINDOW" - every city was able to capture once per 24/h so there was one goal - capture that city. that was more like quest.. and now its one big mess - nobody even know who is the winner after battle :o
another + for such tc system was minimizing problems with different time zones. we dont really control redding and den becouse noone is playing when coa / tsar showing up.
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I want a good and glorious battle.
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i have question to gang members becouse we (sot) had some moratlity issues.
what is vicotry for you in tc skirmish?
defeat much more numerous enemy - for example 10vs20.
loot more then your enemies, no matter how many casualties. just loot!
be a last team leaving city / last mantand
maybe something totaly different?
i would definitely choose option number one. the problem is - at the moment is almost impossible to do such thing becouse of mass alting, fucked tc and many other things. yea some gangs can blame part of the sot of that - lol.. to have convenient excuse for cheating.
two years ago we had nice feature called "TC WINDOW" - every city was able to capture once per 24/h so there was one goal - capture that city. that was more like quest.. and now its one big mess - nobody even know who is the winner after battle :o
another + for such tc system was minimizing problems with different time zones. we dont really control redding and den becouse noone is playing when coa / tsar showing up.
Its not about names on town or who has more alts who gains or loses the most loot, its about who can piss off the other team more, post screenshots and say hahahaha on the forum and make the other team butthurt so they can hitler rage quit then go play hello kitty.
It doesn't matter if you win or lose, its how you make the other team butthurt.
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I disagree, pvp is about fun, which is the worst for all time (overpowered builds, fast reloging, shitty stuff in TC...)
Guys, who is leader of CS now and from which faction is CS formed (S8,old CS...)?
- You look a little chaotic in the fight, even if you have more people than others. I saw you win only once and you had a militia
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Timezones? Superswarms, waiting and even more waves of alts... thanks but no.
I realize that TC system is piece of shit but i dont need to own every town(one is good enough) to participate in pvp. Fuck i must say its the best pvp since few years, no waiting, no camping, no sucking dicks. We fight every evening, modoc, gecko, new reno, everywhere we go. TC sucks, pvp rocks. Thats my opinion about this season.
btw. bring back amboys and five points to Gecko, this place is HOT:
BBS vs CS vs Hawks/TSAR vs TAD/5points :D
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TC WINDOW is the best solution/compromise.. of course without spending much time on scripting. its solution for all teams not only one/two. manero have you even played pvp in thoes days? i really belive in that system, shame there is no way to implement such thing on 2238.
pointless killing next waves of alts.. really challenging. of course its my option, but what i can know? probably real pvp players knows better!
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TC windows and all the epic fights occuring in those 15 minutes had their charm.
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two years ago we had nice feature called "TC WINDOW" - every city was able to capture once per 24/h so there was one goal - capture that city. that was more like quest.. and now its one big mess - nobody even know who is the winner after battle :o
Ye, that was cool times, all people know where and when fight will be and can come in game only for 1 hour and have really nice pvp. But this is in past like namecolorising *)
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It doesn't matter if you win or lose, its how you make the other team butthurt.
This is so true ;D also love aftermath screenshot battles on forums, so pathetic :-X
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You have 1 perception in real life. But yes hawks is made up of 9 americans and 3 czech players, and a there is a sneaker from nigeria. Then there is that sniper from jamaca. Hawks also have a guy from Saudi Arabia.
oh yes, too bad I lost track of the constantly changing conestellation of the "faceless blob" that hawks now seem to be a part of.
@maszrum, I guess I speak for all of coa when I say that we want fights that are as balanced as possible, without fast relog, proxy bluesuits and merc/militia. Other gangs rather want to win by any means though.
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I disagree, pvp is about fun, which is the worst for all time (overpowered builds, fast reloging, shitty stuff in TC...)
Guys, who is leader of CS now and from which faction is CS formed (S8,old CS...)?
- You look a little chaotic in the fight, even if you have more people than others. I saw you win only once and you had a militia
it is hard to play in good teamwork when you have 4-5 new members. we had more wins with out militia (against bbs,sot + mutants militia in bh) and others...every fight we are getting better because new players learn how to fight in our style. we arent afraid of dieing and loosing ouut stuff and we want to have good fights.
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TC window was shit and with this new 2238 that will be event worste. The faction with the town will hide behind militia, no replication time for the milice so they will buy more and more and add more mec in militia. With the fast relog the open town will have a army of alt wm.
I understand is the good thing for SOT, militia, alt ... but some faction don't like this way of playing.
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oh yes, too bad I lost track of the constantly changing conestellation of the "faceless blob" that hawks now seem to be a part of.
You should know by now that when people join this "Faceless blob" they do it because they don't like being run over by 10x their number every fucking time they pvp like others in the past.
This era it just got way out hand, with the thousands of alts everyone uses with fast relog right after they die. Not everyone likes to play like this...
TC is no longer, at all about skill, but about the number of alts you have on World Map.
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I thought PvP is about challenge, not serious buisness. I was wrong...
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I thought PvP is about challenge, not serious buisness. I was wrong...
not anymore now its super serious have to put 5-10 alts owm to win. i remember when bringing 1 alt and having fun now its bring 1 die log in other one and continue to all your alts are dead, another group shows up , or you kill all enemys...... this is boring and i rarely find any good pvp. it just people swarming with waves of pvp durr hurr apes.
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If I'm trying to do some tc-alike pvp I got 1 pvp char max and going to rearm if I die. Seems like I'm doing it wrong. I don't have 999 alts on each town's WM...
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well it's still possible to do actions "normally". If you win you gotta leave all the loot behind and hurry to world map before the second wave spawns, it just feels strange.
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defeat much more numerous enemy - for example 10vs20.
I can always count on you. It's always been number one option. Unfortunately the personal preference of few individuals cannot always be persuasive enough in order to establish a certain state of mind for the whole group. In simple words , we had morality issues.
Some of us would gladly not use militia at all , not use FR , but there is a dilemma. It's not something we can control if SOT stops using FR , it doesn't mean everyone else will too , as well we will have no reliable way of knowing that for sure. In this current situation , those waves of alts is the only thing that let's us compete in a sensible manner. The thing is , i like a good challenge and like when the odds are stacked against me , but i am usually realistic about it. If your going up against a team that has almost same number or more and twice as many alts as you do , there's not much you can do if the enemy is at least decent at best. FR provides immediate reinforcements of alts or brings more waves , in either case you will be overwhelmed or forced to pull out of the city and rearm , if you don't have the appropriate amount of alts. In certain cases i would call it a good challenge when enemy has purely more force that we have to deal with , but as i said i'm being realistic.
Militia ? I would rather see that thing deleted for now , don't see any point of that feature anyway other than easy mode to win , or maybe cut militia down to max 5 since there is no limit for them anyway , you can just keep buying those npc's forever. Imagine all cities like modoc before wipe ? That would be awesome. If someone asks , why SoT uses militia if " I " don't like it ? Well i'm an individual in a team , just like msh and were tolerant players.
well it's still possible to do actions "normally". If you win you gotta leave all the loot behind and hurry to world map before the second wave spawns, it just feels strange.
No , it's not that simple. Under certain circumstances that the enemy is close to an entrance/exit grid , it might just be the case that the grid compliments them , allowing instant reinforcements. In that case it's just an uphill battle , that's " abusable " strategy wise. So yeah , you might just not see a second wave but just die without much chance. Even better when enemy decides to log off more characters near their desired positions before fight.
This really demotivates me to play , down right ridiculous.
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whhhhat? no mutants in militia? hahaha like in bh now ?:D
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Oh god, this thread is hilarious.
- SoT complaining about dual logs
- SoT complaining about militia
- SoT complaining about FRs
- SoT complaining about trolling
- CoA announcing they've always liked a balanced fight (uh, I guess 30 vs 15 is balanced after all)
- T-888 saying he doesn't like fast relogging (god, I have to make that "tripleight family on spawn" compilation GIF one of these days)
- people saying TC windows were good while the reason they're gone is the copious amount of bitching and butthurt they caused
Never change, for the lolz's sake.
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Like always people trying to suggest something in topic and Nice Boat just appearing and doing
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Cry/lie/rage moar Skycast :D
But well, to remain in line with the hypocritical spirit of this thread I must say that we, the BBS, consider Avenger minigun to be overpowered and demand an immediate nerf (yes, to the people who don't get it - I'm stating the reverse thing as that seems to be the name of the game here)! No, seriously - why do you people keep telling those stories that are supposed to make you look "cool" in the forums? The little propaganda sense it used to have is gone now that there are virtually no new players and the people who actually do PvP will just laugh at such efforts.
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But well, to remain in line with the hypocritical spirit of this thread I must say that we, the BBS, consider Avenger minigun to be overpowered and demand an immediate nerf
It's not hypocritical to abuse and criticize features at the same time.
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Just like it's not hypocritical to rant about how stealing is bad while being a professional thief... oh wait, that's the very definition of hypocrisy ::)
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Cry/lie/rage moar Skycast :D
Nice butthurt, but i didnt wrote anything....
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since when my personal option is a voice of entire sot ? fastrelogs, proxy - you know my option on this subject.. same as milita - worst feature that been ever implemented @ 2238. of course only sot members r using fastrelogs :o
ok posting here is pointless, this threat lead to nowhere.
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Just like it's not hypocritical to rant about how stealing is bad while being a professional thief... oh wait, that's the very definition of hypocrisy ::)
No it's not. Hypocricy is something when you tell someone else to not to do something bad while doing it yourself. Nobody's doing it here.
Saying feature x is bad but still abusing it isn't hypocricy. You can recognize some activity is bad for the game but still use it because it's profitable. What's profitable gets abused, nobody can be blamed for that except the game itself.
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Nice butthurt, but i didnt wrote anything....
Of course you didn't, except indicating that your backside has been totally devastated by me writing how ridiculous your team mates are being here :D I mean T-888, the fastest relog of the wastes who doesn't even wait till his char is at -20 ranting how having multiple characters in combat upsets the game balance? That's just absolutely priceless, you guys never fail to deliver except when fighting TC outside Redding or BH. Anyway you're free to be delusional as much as you like, I'm not going to upset you anymore - it's just that you're not fooling anyone and the stuff you say here is making you look funny.
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I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on this issue.
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this topic is getting to be closed again because of no life sot trolls. everything for them is just butthurt and cry. it is no point to reply to them, they just wait for it. they cry about everything what they are doing. t888 is probably guy fapping all day long over forum and he approaches this very personally, so sopt trolling and post only about topis issue
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You have 1 perception in real life. But yes hawks is made up of 9 americans and 3 czech players, and a there is a sneaker from nigeria. Then there is that sniper from jamaca. Hawks also have a guy from Saudi Arabia.
Yes you are right . We haven´t players because this game isn´t funny....(TCs,relogs,swarms,sneakers) :(
**do some update soon please
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ranting how having multiple characters in combat upsets the game balance?
Doesn't it ? I explained pretty clearly why i think the usage of FR is kinda forced , i wouldn't want to go fight your waves of characters without any of our own. We don't have much choice and if i think it's wrong it suddenly makes me a hypocrite ? Hey at least i give a damn about it , but you sure don't , you just keep acting like everything is okay and keep telling me how cool you are and everyone else is lying , crying and whatever , on top of all that childish insults.
Just , grow up.
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Seriously , grow up.
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*shenanigans*
Dude, I'm not notorious for bringing 10 characters to every fight and dying so fast that there's 3 of my alts standing side by side on respawn, you are. I'm not saying you're totally wrong, I'm saying that makes you totally funny when you're being so vocal against this feature (which isn't even half as bad as you make it sound). Get some reading comprehension classes or something. The fact is most people are currently using fast relogs, but they at least have some moderation and decency in doing that - both are qualities you and some of your teammates seem to lack. And that PM? Yeah, that's what I think about Skycast's "witty" graphic responses in a nutshell - and I have enough tact to keep this sort of stuff private where it belongs, yet another concept that seems to totally elude you. Anyway I'm not going to respond to your or Skycast's trolling anymore, because talking with you is more or less the same as fighting you in game - it just starts feeling dirty after a while.
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Yeah, that's what I think about Skycast's "witty" graphic responses
It is because useless to talk with you using words.
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Stop spaming sot lol :)
but srsly stop spamming or again it will be closed.
Back to topic:
Anybody heard anything about Mad horsemans do they will back or not?
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Is it your personal opinion or you speak for your whole team ? I think it's funny how your trying to deny that , fights in redding and BH against you speak for themselves , your using as much alts as we are and i wouldn't be surprised if even more. At least i'm being honest about it , your not. If you think that is funny , then keep it to yourself , no need to start public insults.
Moderation and decency ? Please , there's no limit on fast relogs and your talking about moderation and decency ?
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yes t888 you are low troll and stop spamming, we dont care about your presonal feelings and who is butthurt for you. make your own topic "t-888 and my imaginary friends"
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Back to topic:
Anybody heard anything about Mad horsemans do they will back or not?
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As i heard they will be back when tc is fixed.
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no but i saw some12pl gang "the skags" or something in NR
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Back to topic:
Anybody heard anything about Mad horsemans do they will back or not?
As i heard they will be back when tc is fixed.
Same as Amboys, and us ( The Skags + RDA) and others.
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Heh then cool team it was :D
Fixed tc heh dreams
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so why rda and skagz dont want pvp in gecko or modoc?
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so why rda and skagz dont want pvp in gecko or modoc?
Because this system sux. To get Modoc/Gecko u need 500 inluence. We have 0 there, also enemies bring alts to next attack after they death, stupid sd sneakers, gatlings.
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so you will camp in nr? that isnt funny at all. everyone use waves so you can fight with it or used to it
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Guys please do not harass T-888 or he will destroy you verbally. Resistance is futile.. :D
I laughed when hearing that T-888 logged off even before he was -20.. this must be a higher level of:
They didn't use second waves , i think their not organized enough for such things.
;D
Now I'm waiting for some story made by Rascal ... come on, there is still some popcorn left out there
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you will get fat kilgore
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We can judge tc, we can cry, we can be happy, but it will not change anything.
If u can't play in game made as it is, gtfo.
Going back, to mashrooms question, about "what is winning for you?, looting, killing etc..":
If we kill 2 waves of rogues, and run with loot from third, with pack of our first alts. Are we loosers - running away, or winners - killing and looting?
If we killed 1 pack of battle chars with 3 waves of our alts, and stayed allive in town, looting, are we winners?
Or If we killed 2 waves of bbs, but without looting run away from third...
You can feel the win. For me winning with BBS for example is, when i see Kerrigan, or Tespis dead. What happens then? I don't really care, second wave? loot? Do not giving a fuck.
With rogues? Kick some of their asses in their fortress, with anymethod.
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Gangs are what 1/3 of the player population at least? If no one likes the new tc the devs will have to change it or lose the playerbase and the game will die. New players are unlikely due to the harsh nature of the game and only faction members stick it out long term.
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For me winning with BBS for example is, when i see Kerrigan, or Tespis dead.
You don't need much for win against us hehe
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Gangs are what 1/3 of the player population at least? .
id say it's even more. at least of permanent player population
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BBS and SoT = the best masters of fast relog and deception
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Termap= All know guy who never pvp :D
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I think that we all are just waiting for Rascal now ... ;)
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BBS and SoT = the best masters of fast relog and deception
And? If its legal, its weapon as avenger, or granades. Game (devs, or whoever is trying to keep this bunch of pixels playable) is giving you chance to win with other team. Why not using it? I was angry and surprised too when first SOT sneaker detonated bomb on our battle alts, but what can i do? It is as it is, now all need too use same tactics if they want to fight, win or whatever.
YES MANERO, trust me, i don't need your weapon. As i Wrote before, Kicking SOT's asses is sweet and tasty for me, but when i see PIKACHU in town, im happy that I'm going to have a lot of fun trying to find one of them between strigoi, and you :) Fighting with u, and with SOT gives different emotions and different objectives, and I hope it will stand for ever, becouse i like to chose from having fun from tc, and flaming&trolling on rusian a.....s :)
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For me victory is to kill at least one before i perish
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And? If its legal, its weapon as avenger, or granades.
It's something new. Didn't have that in last session. People who don't like fastrelog and sd grenades aren't either used to it, don't want to do it by themselves or simply think it's not good gameplay. In this situation they just go "nah, this isn't fun I'll do something else" and then those who use those strategies have to either stand in empty map doing nothing or find enemies that too want to use those features.
For example sneak fights have completely lost their bling compared to last session. Back then combat sneak had lsw and full drugs and you had to take care of your life. Now you can equip 2 grenades and call yourself a combat sneak, then spam yourself over and over again. It's not very interesting to fight against enemies who got nothing to lose. Since it's not interesting, I'll do something else.
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It's something new. Didn't have that in last session. People who don't like fastrelog and sd grenades aren't either used to it, don't want to do it by themselves or simply think it's not good gameplay. In this situation they just go "nah, this isn't fun I'll do something else" and then those who use those strategies have to either stand in empty map doing nothing or find enemies that too want to use those features.
For example sneak fights have completely lost their bling compared to last session. Back then combat sneak had lsw and full drugs and you had to take care of your life. Now you can equip 2 grenades and call yourself a combat sneak, then spam yourself over and over again. It's not very interesting to fight against enemies who got nothing to lose. Since it's not interesting, I'll do something else.
Ok. First:
If u don't like fast relog, or sneaky granades, your bussines, but that's why u have gang. U can always find some guys, who like it.
Fast relog, true: more that 50% of gang needs more that one alt over the town map, but sneakers? Bitch, please... If anyone thinks, that when he kill other haracter, with sneaker, in suicide granade action, he wins... hahahahah. It may be annoying, but theese noobs, can't even use it in any action, to make win more possible to them. SOT can do it.. true, but other sneakers? lame, nothing to be scared of.
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I have got 2 snikers chars but i don`t use it because don`t like playing snikers. Manero don`t use it too so i don`t know what do you mean Mieszko. Fastrelogs yes I do but mostly on modoc cuz I have all of my chars there.
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For me victory is to kill at least one before i perish
for me is 2 or 3 ;D
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For me 14 plus fastrelogs ;D
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14 in single wave? hmmm you must be rambo ;D
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I have got 2 snikers
Sounds tasty.
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Sounds tasty.
i loled hard
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I can't be a voice for the whole team , but i can tell this. SOT at the moment plays passive. Mainly because of current non-existent TC system. The deal is if someone decides to come to one of our cities , we just might consider defending those towns , but certainly aren't looking for fights in other cities unless were informed directly( that doesn't happen like very often ). All in all , nothing new players here didn't already know. Personally , not interested in 2238 at the moment , would like to play like before but current state of the server is quite demotivating.
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come on? you dont like dead server ? it is smelly and tasty...good job devs!! ;]
and i have same feelings like t888. devs dont care so why have to? i am waiting for wipe in requiem serv and see yaaaa 2238 abandom project
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I'll miss you.
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I have got 2 snikers chars but i don`t use it because don`t like playing snikers. Manero don`t use it too so i don`t know what do you mean Mieszko. Fastrelogs yes I do but mostly on modoc cuz I have all of my chars there.
As i said Strigoi, your snekers are nothing. Your bussines. SOT sneakres are challange.
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i loled hard
Snikers always sounds tasty. With plasma nuts.
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These days we are more active, so we started to TC, but siting in toilet with only 7 people people to get 500 influence just sucks.
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So that was you trying to control all toilets in Den? :P
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Yep, because Klamath has less toilets ;D
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We have got Klamath so there is no chance for you.
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We have got Klamath so there is no chance for you.
We haven't 5 alts on WM like every member of u
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Thats weird cuz I don`t have 5 fighter builds. Anyway what`s your problem? Just make some
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Thats weird cuz I don`t have 5 fighter builds. Anyway what`s your problem? Just make some
I have 7, but not all from us have time to exp
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Stop crying on forum start exping :D I don't have even 3 fighter builds
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Stop crying on forum start exping :D I don't have even 3 fighter builds
Instead of crying on forums and exping, people also might choose the option to to quit the game.