For me winning with BBS for example is, when i see Kerrigan, or Tespis dead.
Gangs are what 1/3 of the player population at least? .
BBS and SoT = the best masters of fast relog and deception
And? If its legal, its weapon as avenger, or granades.
It's something new. Didn't have that in last session. People who don't like fastrelog and sd grenades aren't either used to it, don't want to do it by themselves or simply think it's not good gameplay. In this situation they just go "nah, this isn't fun I'll do something else" and then those who use those strategies have to either stand in empty map doing nothing or find enemies that too want to use those features. For example sneak fights have completely lost their bling compared to last session. Back then combat sneak had lsw and full drugs and you had to take care of your life. Now you can equip 2 grenades and call yourself a combat sneak, then spam yourself over and over again. It's not very interesting to fight against enemies who got nothing to lose. Since it's not interesting, I'll do something else.
For me victory is to kill at least one before i perish
I have got 2 snikers