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Title: Perks
Post by: lisac2k on January 06, 2012, 09:09:31 pm

Level Perks

Bonus HtH Attacks

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 18, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 180
• Description: You have learned the secret arts of the East, or you just punch faster. In any case, your Hand-to-Hand attacks cost 1 AP less to perform.

Bonus HtH Damage

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 75
• Generic effects: Melee Damage increased by 7
• Description: Experience in unarmed combat has given you the edge when it comes to damage. You cause +7 points of damage with hand-to-hand and melee attacks.

Bonus Move

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Agility at least 6
• Generic effects: Move Action Points increased by 2
• Description: For each level of Bonus Move, you get 2 free APs each turn that can only be used for movement. In other words, you can move 2 free hexes each turn for each level of this Perk.

Bonus Ranged Damage

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Small Guns or Big Guns at least 150 (rank 1); Level at least 12, Small Guns or Big Guns at least 175 (rank 2)
• Description: Your training in firearms and other ranged weapons has made you more deadly in ranged combat. For each level of this Perk, you do +2 points of damage with ranged weapons.

Bonus Rate of Fire

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 18, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 180
• Description: This Perk allows you to pull the trigger a little faster and still remain as accurate as before. Each ranged weapon attack costs 1 AP less to perform.

Earlier Sequence

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Perception at least 5
• Generic effects: Sequence increased by 2
• Description: You are more likely to move before your opponents in combat, since your Sequence is increased by +2 points.

More Critical

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 100
• Generic effects: Critical Chance increased by 5
• Description: You are more likely to cause critical hits in combat if you have this Perk. You get an additional +5% chance to cause a critical hit.

Toughness

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Endurance at least 4
• Generic effects: Damage Threshold increased by 2, Damage Resistance increased by 5
• Description: When you are tough, you take less damage. You gain +5% to your general damage resistance and +2 to your general damage threshold.

Strong Back

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Endurance at least 6
• Generic effects: Carry Weight increased by 22650
• Description: AKA Mule. You can carry an additional 22 kg of equipment.

Sharpshooter

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 150
• Description: You have a talent for hitting things at longer distances. For each level of this Perk, you get a +2 bonus to Perception for the purposes of determining sight range. You also get a small bonus to chance to hit your opponent with ranged weapon.

Silent Running

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Sneak at least 100
• Description: With this Perk, you now have the ability to move quickly and still remain quiet. You can Sneak and run without suffering any penalty.

Healer

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, First aid at least 75
• Description: The healing of bodies comes easier to you with this Perk. This Perk heals 15-30 additional hit points when using the First Aid.

Better Critical

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 175
• Description: The critical hits you cause in ranged combat are more devastating. You gain a +20 bonus on the critical hit table, almost ensuring that more damage will be done. This does not affect the chance to cause a critical hit.

Silent Death

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, Sneak at least 175
• Description: While Sneaking, if you hit a critter in the back, you will cause and automatic critical hit with +10 on the roll when attacking hand to hand or with a thrown or one handed weapon. Silent Death is that kind of Perk.

Action Boy

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Agility at least 6 (rank 1); Level at least 15, Agility at least 6 (rank 2)
• Generic effects: Maximum Action Points increased by 1
• Description: Each level of Action Boy (insert Girl if you wish) gives you an additional AP to spend every combat turn. You can use these generic APs on any task.

Lifegiver

• Ranks: 3
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Endurance at least 5 (rank 1); Level at least 15, Endurance at least 6 (rank 2); Level at least 18, Endurance at least 7 (rank 3)
• Generic effects: Maximum Hit Points increased by 20 (rank 1); Maximum Hit Points increased by 30 (rank 2); Maximum Hit Points increased by 40 (rank 3)
• Description: With each respective level of this Perk, you gain an additional 20, 30 and 40 Hit Points.  This is in addition to the hit points you already gain per level based off of your Endurance.

Dodger

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Agility at least 8
• Generic effects: Armor Class increased by 20
• Description: You are less likely to be hit in combat if you have this Perk. You gain a +20 to your Armor Class.

Medic

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, First aid at least 175
• Description: The Medic halves the timeouts for First Aid and Doctor skills.

Heave Ho!

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Throwing at least 100
• Generic effects: (rank 1)
• Description: This perk gives you an additional +1 to Strength (up to 10), for purposes of determining range with thrown weapons only. This Perk will exceed a weapon's maximum range.

Ghost

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Sneak at least 150
• Description: When the sun goes down or you are in a poorly lit area, you move like a ghost with this Perk. Your get the bonus for being near walls from 5 hexes away.

Quick Pockets

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Agility at least 5
• Description: You have learned to pack your equipment better, your increased dexterity enables you to retrieve and put away items in half the time.

Adrenaline Rush

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Strength at least 5
• Description: With this Perk, you gain +10% to your Damage Resistance when you drop below 1/2 of your max hit points.

Gain Strength

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Strength at most 9
• Generic effects: Strength increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Strength.

Gain Perception

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Perception at most 9
• Generic effects: Perception increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Perception.

Gain Endurance

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Endurance at most 9
• Generic effects: Endurance increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Endurance.

Gain Charisma

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Charisma at most 9
• Generic effects: Charisma increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Charisma.

Gain Intelligence

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Intelligence at most 9
• Generic effects: Intelligence increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Intelligence.

Gain Agility

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Agility at most 9
• Generic effects: Agility increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Agility.

Gain Luck

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Luck at most 9
• Generic effects: Luck increased by 1
• Description: With this Perk you gain +1 to your Luck.

HtH Evade

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 75
• Description: If both item slots are empty, you get additional 20 points to your AC.

Living Anatomy

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, First aid at least 150
• Description: You have a better understanding of living creatures and their strengths and weaknesses. You get more critical successes and fewer critical failures when you are healing, and you do +2 damage per attack to living creatures.

Pack Rat

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Intelligence at least 6
• Description: You are efficient at arranging your inventory in general. This makes it much easier to carry that little extra you've always needed.

Pyromaniac

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Big Guns at least 100 (rank 1); Level at least 15, Big Guns at least 150 (rank 2)
• Description: You do 20 extra damage with fire-based weapons, and enemies always seem to die in the most painful fiery fashion.

Quick Recovery

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Agility at least 6
• Description: You are quick at recovering from being knocked down.

Stonewall

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Strength at least 6
• Description: You are much less likely to be knocked down in combat.

Weapon Handling

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 100
• Description: You can wield weapons much larger than normally allowed. You gain a +2 to your strength for the purposes of Strength checks when trying to wield weaponry.

Tree Trunk Thighs

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Endurance at least 6
• Description: You have large legs, you are able to shrug off leg shots that would floor others.

Iron Grip

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Strength at least 8
• Description: They will have to pry your gun from your cold dead hands. You suffer fewer weapon drops and arm cripples.

Man of Steel

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, Endurance at least 8
• Description: You are as tough as they come. Critical hits just don’t seem to affect you as much as they do others.

Even More Criticals

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 125
• Generic effects: Critical Chance increased by 10
• Description: You are able to spot the vulnerable points in enemies. You gain 10% critical chance.

Right Between the Eyes

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 200
• Description: You are able to hit your target with unerring accuracy. Helmets are no protection against you!

Fast Reload

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Small Guns, Big Guns or Energy Weapons at least 125
• Description: You are able to reload your weapon very quickly. It only takes you 1 AP.

Spray and Pray

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 125
• Description: You cover your target in bullets... one of them is bound to find a hole. You ignore armour’s Critical Modifier.

More Ranged Damage

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, Small Guns, Big Guns, Energy Weapons or Throwing at least 200
• Description: Your advanced training in firearms and other ranged weapons has made you even more deadly in ranged combat than those with a basic training. You do +3 points of damage with ranged weapons.

Livewire

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Agility at least 6
• Description: You have learnt to harness your extra energy and in battle you are a blur. You double your bonus AC gained from your AG.

HtH Evade+

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 150
• Description: If both of your item slots are empty, you get a +40 bonus to your Armor Class.

Dodger+

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, Agility at least 10
• Generic effects: Armor Class increased by 40
• Description: You are even less likely to be hit in combat if you have this Perk. You gain a +40 to your Armor Class.

Even Tougher

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Endurance at least 6
• Generic effects: Damage Threshold increased by 3, Damage Resistance increased by 10
• Description: When you are even tougher, you take even less damage. You gain +10% to your Damage Resistance and +3 to your Damage Threshold.

Healer+

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, First aid at least 100
• Description: The healing of bodies comes easier to you with this Perk. This Perk heals 20-40 additional hit points when using the First Aid.

Blessed are the Weak

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, First aid at least 125
• Description: You are able to bring people back from the brink of death. You can heal people even when they are Weakened.

Bonus HtH Damage+

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 100
• Description: Mastery in unarmed combat has given you the edge when it comes to damage. You cause +15% critical chance with hand-to-hand and melee attacks.

In Your Face!

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 125
• Description: You cut an intimidating figure and people cower when you are near. Opponents have a 50% chance of missing you when in an adjacent square.

Hit the Gaps

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 12, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 150
• Description: You are an expert at punching through the weak spots in armor. The Critical Modifier value of any armor is reduced by 25%.

HtH Criticals

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 15, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 175
• Description: You are much more likely to cause a critical hit, but only when using Hand to Hand or Melee.

Heave Ho!!

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Throwing at least 150
• Description: This perk gives you an additional +1 to Strength (up to 10) for purposes of determining range with thrown weapons only. This Perk will exceed a weapon's maximum range.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: lisac2k on January 06, 2012, 09:09:44 pm

Support Perks

Awareness

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Perception at least 6 or Unarmed at least 100 or Melee Weapons at least 100
• With Awareness, you are given detailed information about any critter you examine. You see their exact hit points and information about any weapon they are equipped with.

Faster Healing

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Intelligence at least 6, Doctor at least 75
• Generic effects: Healing Rate increased by 5
• With this Perk, you get a +5 bonus to your Healing Rate. This is in addition to your normal healing rate, thus you heal faster.

Rad Resistance

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Intelligence at least 7, Doctor at least 100
• Generic effects: Poison Resistance increased by 20, Radiation Resistance increased by 30
• You are able to avoid radiation and its bad effects more effectively. Each level of this Perk improves your Radiation Resistance by 30% and your Poison Resistance by 20%.

Educated

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Intelligence at least 8, Science at least 100
• Each level of Educated adds +2 skill points when you gain a new experience level. This Perk works best when purchased early in your adventure.

Snakeater

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Endurance at least 6, Outdoorsman at least 75
• Generic effects: Poison Resistance increased by 30, Radiation Resistance increased by 20
• Yum! Tastes like chicken. For each level of this Perk, you gain +25% to your Poison Resistance.

Mr. Fixit

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Repair at least 150
• Mr Fixit is able to repair items to a higher standard than his peers.

Master Thief

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Steal at least 150
• A Master Thief is proficient at stealing and picking locks. He is able to attempt his thievery twice as often.

Speaker

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Speech at least 125
• Being a Speaker means your follower’s loyalty decreases at half the normal rate.

Pickpocket

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Steal at least 175
• You are much more adept at stealing than a normal crook. You can steal with the best of them, because with this Perk, you halve the size and facing modifiers when stealing from a person.

Explorer

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 150
• The mark of the Explorer is to search out new and interesting locations. With this Perk, you ignore speed penalties for terrain on the world map.

Pathfinder

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 175
• The Pathfinder is able to find the shortest route available. With this Perk, your travel speed on the World Map is increased by 15%.

Scout

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 150
• You have improved your ability to see and recognize distant locations and events, increasing the size of explorations on the World Map by one square in each direction.

Ranger

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 100
• Due to the extensive amount of time spent in the wilderness, you have learned to create the right items and tools necessary for survival. When you make a tent, it is automatically upgraded to an Outdoorsman’s Camp.

Swift Learner

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Intelligence at least 6, Science at least 50
• You are indeed a Swift Learner with this Perk, as each level gives you an additional +10% bonus whenever you earn experience points. This is best taken early.

Profession: Armorer

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Repair at least 50 (rank 1); Repair at least 100 (rank 2)
• Your everyday outfit just don't cut it. Making your personal, straight-from-the-workbench protective gear is something you live for.

Profession: Gunsmith (Small Guns)

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Repair at least 50 (rank 1); Repair at least 100 (rank 2)
• You feel like your life would make no sense without pistols, rifles and ammo. You use each and every chance to make something that can shoot or be shot at.

Profession: Gunsmith (Big Guns)

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Repair at least 50 (rank 1); Repair at least 100 (rank 2)
• You feel like your life would make no sense without big guns and ammo. You use each and every chance to make something that can make a big boom.

Profession: Energy Expert

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Science at least 50 (rank 1); Science at least 100 (rank 2)
• Your life has one purpose only: to master the energy flows and storages. Good thing you can use your experience even when fiddling with the energy weapons.

Profession: Demolition Expert

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Traps at least 50 (rank 1); Traps at least 100 (rank 2)
• If it ain't go boom, it has no meaning to you. You're obsessed with explosions, really.

Profession: Doctor

• Ranks: 2
• Generic requirements: Doctor at least 50 (rank 1); Doctor at least 100 (rank 2)
• Helping people when they are injured or ill is all you care about. Noble profession, indeed.

Cautious Nature

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Perception at least 6, Outdoorsman at least 100
• You are more alert outdoors and enemies are less likely to sneak up on you. With this Perk you get a +3 to your perception in random encounters when determining placement.

Demolition Expert

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Traps at least 125
• You are an expert when it comes to the fine art of handling explosives. They always go off when they're supposed to and inflict some extra damage.

Harmless

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Charisma at least 6, Steal at least 125
• Your innocent demeanor makes stealing from people a little easier. You lose only half the reputation when stealing.

Light Step

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Traps at least 50
• You are agile, lucky and always careful. This perk halves your chances for setting off a trap.

Magnetic Personality

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Speech at least 100
• People just love to be around you! You gain additional 50 points to your follower limit.

Negotiator

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Barter at least 150
• You are a notorious negotiator. Not only can you barter with the best of them, you can also talk your way into or out of nearly anything.  With this Perk your worst reputation counts as neutral.

Thief

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Steal at least 100
• The blood of a thief runs through your veins. Luck/50 chance for no timeout when failing to steal. A well rounded thief is alive thief.

Gecko Skinning

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Outdoorsman at least 50
• You have the knowledge of how to skin geckos properly in order to get their pelts.

Sex Appeal

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Speech at least 75
• Your raw sexual magnetism affects your relationship with the opposite sex in your favor. All reputations in such relationships are better for 250 points.

Stealth Girl

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Sneak at least 100, Repair at least 100
• Your intuitive understanding of the inner mechanism of Stealth Boys allows you to use them for twice as long.

Best of a Bad Lot

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Repair at least 75
• You are an expert at rescuing equipment which is on the verge of falling apart. All items with a condition of below 15% count as 15% when being repaired.

Dismantler

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Science at least 150
• You're the kind of a person who always finds spare screws after dismantling a clock and putting it back together. You recycle twice the usual number of base resources whenever dismantling an item.

Treasure Hunter

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Lockpick at least 150
• You are exceptionally skilled when it comes to search for valuables long forgotten. You find more wealth in lockers scattered in the encounters.

Dead Man Walking

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Intelligence at least 5, Doctor at least 50
• Like Rasputin, it takes a lot to finally finish you off. Your health points can drop to twice the negative value before you finally die.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: lisac2k on January 06, 2012, 09:09:59 pm

Reserved

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: lisac2k on January 06, 2012, 09:10:21 pm

Reserved

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: lisac2k on January 06, 2012, 09:10:44 pm

Reserved

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: jodwig on January 07, 2012, 12:09:16 am

How about Traits?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Reiniat on January 07, 2012, 06:06:22 am

Since we cant talk about balance yet i like to point that names and descriptions are pretty funny and they totaly match witht the originals  :)

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Biogitanus on January 07, 2012, 08:17:27 am

how you get suport perks? any clue about quest?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: LagMaster on January 07, 2012, 08:33:18 am

yeah, where iare the placew we can take support perks?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: jodwig on January 08, 2012, 04:45:33 am

Quote from: LagMaster on January 07, 2012, 08:33:18 am

yeah, where iare the placew we can take support perks?

Devs won't tell you, because they love surprises, so we need to find them by ourselves, check this thread:
WARNING SPOILERS
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=20054.0 (http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=20054.0)
WARNING SPOILERS

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: GroeneAppel on January 08, 2012, 04:42:41 pm

Is there a cap on armor class?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2012, 05:45:08 pm

Quote from: GroeneAppel on January 08, 2012, 04:42:41 pm

Is there a cap on armor class?

There's obviously a max somewhere a long the line, but it's only determined by how many sources of AC you can find, there is no cap in place.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: kartowka on January 08, 2012, 07:00:55 pm

Weapon hadling is only for small guns and big guns? No way. Where are my energy weapons?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Solar on January 08, 2012, 07:01:58 pm

Shouldn't be the case, if it is then its a bug.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: runboy93 on January 08, 2012, 07:05:01 pm

So both BROF+HtH attacks stay as 225%?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Jotisz on January 08, 2012, 07:11:28 pm

Is the Survivalist perk a goner? Asking cause its still in planner but I can't seem to take it ingame also its not in the list here.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: kartowka on January 09, 2012, 09:51:12 am

Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2012, 07:01:58 pm

Shouldn't be the case, if it is then its a bug.

Im lvl 11 and got 180 energy weapons but still cant take weapon handling. Cant take lvl12 because of it.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Solar on January 09, 2012, 01:04:33 pm

Then its a bug.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Glave on January 09, 2012, 04:42:28 pm

Quote from: Solar on January 09, 2012, 01:04:33 pm

Then its a bug.

Any chance for a quickfix?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Biogitanus on January 09, 2012, 06:04:28 pm

drugs(like mentats) can help to get  some?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: yoz on January 09, 2012, 10:56:28 pm

There is a lot of confusion around how bonehead, stonewall, and iron grip work. Can a dev clarify those.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: wladimiiir on January 10, 2012, 10:22:52 am

Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2012, 05:45:08 pm

There's obviously a max somewhere a long the line, but it's only determined by how many sources of AC you can find, there is no cap in place.

Wait, there is no 90 AC cap?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: jangling on January 10, 2012, 11:51:04 am

From what i can tell all speech support perks have a endurance cap (if you have over 10 endurance you can not use speech support perks)

Might be a bug.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: LagMaster on January 10, 2012, 12:32:01 pm

yeah, Miss Kitty has 3 caps: end, CH and AG, so if you have them at 10 you can't talk to her

so question, why is this implemented?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: LagMaster on January 10, 2012, 03:58:37 pm

will lisac do a list of traints?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Slaver Snipe on January 10, 2012, 04:24:49 pm

No CH cap on miss kitty, I have 10 and have gotten sex appeal and magnetic from her.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Super on January 10, 2012, 05:26:02 pm

Weapon Handling

    Ranks: 1
    Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Small Guns or Big Guns at least 100
    Description: You can wield weapons much larger than normally allowed. You gain a +2 to your strength for the purposes of Strength checks when trying to wield weaponry.

this perk give only 2 str?
before wipe he give 3

i need to small guns
there is no error?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Wind_Drift on January 10, 2012, 07:32:00 pm

Nope, not an error.  It's only +2. 

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: GroeneAppel on January 10, 2012, 08:18:09 pm

Quote from: Mike Wall on January 10, 2012, 10:22:52 am

Wait, there is no 90 AC cap?

I really would like to know what exactly the case is here. I heard and read somewhere that there is a 90AC cap. I really hope there isn't.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Dantiko on January 10, 2012, 09:20:55 pm

I got a couple questions, assuming I want to get more criticals perk at level 3
so at level 2 I got 77sg, at level 3 I can raise my sg skill to 100, but then will I be able to spend the points on my skills before choosing a perk?
Or else I won't be able to get the perk at this level.
And will I be able to get the boneyard guard's bonus to sg skill if I have 1 ch and take mentats?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Swinglinered on January 11, 2012, 04:10:40 am

Does Bonus Move give a speed bonus in RT?

I'm in a position where I can get tons of useful support perks, but some of my Level Perk opportunities are useless to me even with squatting. If only there were a way to cash Perks in for more skill points. Maybe a level worth.

Also, some things should perhaps be both Level and Support, to get multiple ranks, perhaps to get with lower reqs as a higher level perk.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: RavenousRat on January 11, 2012, 05:38:26 am

Quote from: Swinglinered on January 11, 2012, 04:10:40 am

I'm in a position where I can get tons of useful support perks, but some of my Level Perk opportunities are useless to me even with squatting. If only there were a way to cash Perks in for more skill points. Maybe a level worth.

I don't like all 3rd level perks too, so you can take Skilled trait, skip perk on 4th level, wait for 6th level, and pick 6th level perk, then do the same with 8th level, skip it, wait till 9th, take 9th level perk, this way you'll lose only 1 perk (12, 16, 20, 24 vs 12, 15, 18, 21, 24), but you'll get 5*23=115 skill points.
Btw it's effective for sneakers, if you don't need weapon handling on 3rd level, you can take skilled and just don't take Ghost perk, because all bonuses are capped at 300 anyway, and with so high skill points you can max out sneak even with 200% weapon skill and replace ghost perk, because you'll always get "benefit" not only near walls and you won't lose any perks at all.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: LagMaster on January 11, 2012, 08:30:26 am

i whant to know if HtH evade works with melle

so i can reppel bullets with my Wakizashi blade like in Madness Combat?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: wladimiiir on January 11, 2012, 08:34:43 am

Quote from: Swinglinered on January 11, 2012, 04:10:40 am

Does Bonus Move give a speed bonus in RT?

Bonuse Move is only useful in TB.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Swinglinered on January 11, 2012, 08:57:52 am

Quote from: RavenousRat on January 11, 2012, 05:38:26 am

I don't like all 3rd level perks too, so you can take Skilled trait, skip perk on 4th level, wait for 6th level, and pick 6th level perk, then do the same with 8th level, skip it, wait till 9th, take 9th level perk, this way you'll lose only 1 perk (12, 16, 20, 24 vs 12, 15, 18, 21, 24), but you'll get 5*23=115 skill points.
Btw it's effective for sneakers, if you don't need weapon handling on 3rd level, you can take skilled and just don't take Ghost perk, because all bonuses are capped at 300 anyway, and with so high skill points you can max out sneak even with 200% weapon skill and replace ghost perk, because you'll always get "benefit" not only near walls and you won't lose any perks at all.

I am skilled- it was really just the 8th level one I was having trouble finding a good selection for even after squatting.
I thought Ghost was an engine exception to the 300 rule.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: RavenousRat on January 11, 2012, 09:02:22 am

Quote from: Swinglinered on January 11, 2012, 08:57:52 am

I thought Ghost was an engine exception to the 300 rule.

Well from:
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=20006.0

- Changed the Sneak/FoV mechanics:
Observer's maximum sight range is reduced, based on opponent's relative direction: 0%, 20%, 40% and 60% (for front, front-side, back-side and back respectively). For sneakers, the following algorithm decides the visibility:
First, raw Sneak skill value of the opponent is taken. Then the following boni are applied:
For being next to a wall (1 hex, or 5 with Ghost perk): +30.
For being hidden behind an object (there is an unpassable scenery between the opponent and the target no more than 2 hexes from the opponent): +60.
For using Stealth Boy: +60.
At this point of calculations, Sneak is capped at 300. Then the following penalties are applied:  <- it means if you'll max out your base sneak to ~300, you can forget about all these bonuses, because you'll always have 300, near wall, behind barrel or in plain street, always.

For opponent's relative direction: -72, -36, -12, 0.
For wielding weapons: -36 for two handed rifle in active slot, -72 for heavy weapons in active slot.
For wearing armours: -36 for Combat Armor and variants, -72 for Metal Armor and variants.
For running: -60, unless with Silent Running perk.
The opponent is invisible whenever its distance from the observer increased by final Sneak/6 is larger than observer's FRONT sight range (regardless of the actual direction).
Everything said when sneaked is downgraded to whisper.
Active Motion Sensor reveals all critters in 15 hexes radius (whether behind a wall or not). It consumes Small Energy Cells and Micro Fusion Cells. Use Science on it to see remaining charges.
Stealth Boy disappears on use and grants a 20 minutes long Sneak bonus. Consuming more resets the timer to 20 minutes.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Zogra on January 12, 2012, 06:26:38 am

Quote from: Super on January 10, 2012, 05:26:02 pm

Weapon Handling

    Ranks: 1
    Generic requirements: Level at least 3, Small Guns or Big Guns at least 100
    Description: You can wield weapons much larger than normally allowed. You gain a +2 to your strength for the purposes of Strength checks when trying to wield weaponry.

this perk give only 2 str?
before wipe he give 3

i need to small guns
there is no error?

on fcp it still gives +3 str on weapon check  dunno whats going on trying to find out myself

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: wladimiiir on January 12, 2012, 08:35:51 am

Quote from: Zogra on January 12, 2012, 06:26:38 am

on fcp it still gives +3 str on weapon check  dunno whats going on trying to find out myself

Not really, the description in FCP says +2.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Zogra on January 12, 2012, 05:24:55 pm

Quote from: Mike Wall on January 12, 2012, 08:35:51 am

Not really, the description in FCP says +2.

No, make some calculations with weapon calculator soon or later u will understand that FCP counts weapon handling perk as +3str and not as +2 as it says

Btw i never said that description says something different from +2

Also i made a thread about this matter last night so i get a formal reply about this bug or outdated FCP perk but my threat is gone and i am like WTF?


DEVS please we gotta know whats going on into game i spent all my days since the wipe trying to find out how i will make my chars and you dont clarify things well enough so most things are still fuzzy to me and i loose my days trying to find out things that would be more simple if you explain better i would have been 24 by now 2 chars....

please someone officially clarify is weapon handling perk +3 or +2 into game??? if its +2 into game why in FCP it says +2 and in weapon calculator it counts as +3???

Ok enough with my biatch talking ^^

I am very happy with this game i am big fan of fallout (oldones) series and even that crafting and repairing is messed up 2238 wastelands still feels like home to me :P

Goodjob to all peps that participate into dev team and to all people that support fo2238 keep up the good work and ty for making this happend

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 12, 2012, 05:31:45 pm

Dude FCP isn't anything official, you see the description of the perk in a dev post and in the FCP, but calculator do it another way (pre wipe style), assume the calculator is wrong because Opera forgot to update that and report the bug to Opera...

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Solar on January 12, 2012, 06:32:11 pm

To save your head exploding, its +2 :P

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Zogra on January 12, 2012, 06:43:24 pm

Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2012, 06:32:11 pm

To save your head exploding, its +2 :P

ok ty for the info  ;D

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Zogra on January 12, 2012, 06:46:19 pm

Quote from: Crazy on January 12, 2012, 05:31:45 pm

Dude FCP isn't anything official, you see the description of the perk in a dev post and in the FCP, but calculator do it another way (pre wipe style), assume the calculator is wrong because Opera forgot to update that and report the bug to Opera...

ok ty for the info but do you know if there is anything else besides this perk that weapon calculator calculates the old way?

Cause if its this only then i can calculate -1 strength and still have accurate results about my weapon chances

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: spears on January 13, 2012, 04:00:33 am

Just tested getting awareness perk by using cigs. Sadly it doesnt work.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: MeganFox on January 13, 2012, 04:06:20 am

Quote from: spears on January 13, 2012, 04:00:33 am

Just tested getting awareness perk by using cigs. Sadly it doesnt work.

as always.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: FrankCastle on January 13, 2012, 06:02:36 am

so I cant take educated by using mentats cause i only have 7 int?
you cant take support perks via drugs????

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: RavenousRat on January 13, 2012, 06:52:42 am

Quote from: FrankCastle on January 13, 2012, 06:02:36 am

you cant take support perks via drugs????

You can't.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Enzotainment on January 15, 2012, 05:31:28 pm

Quote from: Solar on January 08, 2012, 05:45:08 pm

There's obviously a max somewhere a long the line, but it's only determined by how many sources of AC you can find, there is no cap in place.

Can anyone confirm there is no cap on AC?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Solar on January 15, 2012, 05:35:57 pm

It needs fixing atm

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Enzotainment on January 15, 2012, 05:44:59 pm

Quote from: Solar on January 15, 2012, 05:35:57 pm

It needs fixing atm

Ok great :)
So I can continue with my 150AC character without worrying that I will waste 3 perks? (by taking another AC perk after hitting 90)

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 15, 2012, 06:08:33 pm

Quote from: Enzotainment on January 15, 2012, 05:44:59 pm

Ok great :)
So I can continue with my 150AC character without worrying that I will waste 3 perks? (by taking another AC perk after hitting 90)

Hey, even with the cap, it would be useful, like it would allow you to wear an armor and keep max AC.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: LagMaster on January 15, 2012, 06:20:40 pm

don;t warry, Solar said it is a bug, so max AC will be fixed and it will be 220(calculated)

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Fenrir on January 16, 2012, 12:18:15 am

What does Pack Rat do, exactly?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: FrankenStone on January 16, 2012, 12:46:17 am

Quote from: Fenrir on January 16, 2012, 12:18:15 am

What does Pack Rat do, exactly?

add plus 25 Kg carryweight same as Strong Back only the requirements are different

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Eclair on January 17, 2012, 03:01:43 am

No, pack rat adds 33.3% to your current weight maximum.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Biogitanus on January 17, 2012, 09:59:29 pm

with 4 strength and heave ho can have 15+3 range with a knife for exaple? -edit- what is the max range now?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: TheGreenHand on January 18, 2012, 03:08:28 am

I really think this thread should be sticky.  It's very helpful.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 18, 2012, 05:54:40 pm

Questions:
Is spray and pray available for energy? It seems not in that topic but is it a mistake?
And second, does spray and pray works for targeted shot in arms/legs? (or are arms and legs protected at all by the armor CM?).

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Floodnik on January 18, 2012, 05:57:59 pm

I've read somewhere that Spray and Prey works only for untargetted shots(so the only usage I'd see for it is critical bursters), but I can't be sure.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: MeganFox on January 19, 2012, 05:05:37 am

I ve read that spray n pray is bugged and still does not work at all I mean it change nothing is it true ?
I also would like to ask about idea of AC perks how they work against enemy shooting you with avenger? I hope it doesnt make someone unhittable or only 1 bullet hit the target when full AC guy is in run mode...
Few more questions:
- What about STR char. modifier? Is it still -20% to gun skill if I got 6str and gun require 7str ?
- How about critics for BG's now ? With that all anti critic perks and 3x toughness is it any chance to make a good critic shoot?
- Stonewall : Is it about END amount of skills or now about STR ?
  "Generic requirements: Level at least 9,  Strength at least 6 " so more STR -> less chance for KO's ?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 19, 2012, 01:19:47 pm

Quote from: MeganFox on January 19, 2012, 05:05:37 am

I also would like to ask about idea of AC perks how they work against enemy shooting you with avenger? I hope it doesnt make someone unhittable or only 1 bullet hit the target when full AC guy is in run mode...

Well, depends on your final ToHit really, shooting a high AC char running is just like shooting when you don't have yet enough skill. If you have 5-9% ToHit all your bullets will most likely miss.

Quote

Few more questions:
- What about STR char. modifier? Is it still -20% to gun skill if I got 6str and gun require 7str ?

Yes AFAIK. Don't forget it add a small chance of crit miss too.

Quote

- How about critics for BG's now ? With that all anti critic perks and 3x toughness is it any chance to make a good critic shoot?

Yes.

Quote

- Stonewall : Is it about END amount of skills or now about STR ?
  "Generic requirements: Level at least 9,  Strength at least 6 " so more STR -> less chance for KO's ?

Stonewall effectiveness is still guided by endurance.



I have no idea if spray and pray is bugged.
But could a dev answer my previous questions?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Solar on January 19, 2012, 01:51:48 pm

S&P should only work on bursts, so not targetted. Should have En requirements too, just not added yet

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: mojuk on January 19, 2012, 02:10:13 pm

Quote from: Solar on January 19, 2012, 01:51:48 pm

S&P should only work on bursts, so not targetted. Should have En requirements too, just not added yet

Only bursts? How about single but not aimed shoots or shooting a single bullet already counts as aiming? And how about rockets?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Vandal on January 21, 2012, 04:15:46 pm

How does this work? You can learn support perk instead of a normal perk or you can learn support perks beside normal ones?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Enzotainment on January 21, 2012, 10:17:26 pm

Quote from: Vandal on January 21, 2012, 04:15:46 pm

How does this work? You can learn support perk instead of a normal perk or you can learn support perks beside normal ones?

Beside normal ones :) thank the gods/devs

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 02:40:42 am

Can anyone tell me, what kamikaze malus is exactly?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 22, 2012, 02:44:32 am

Quote from: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 02:40:42 am

Can anyone tell me, what kamikaze malus is exactly?

You don't get to have any armor threshold from perks.

(take toughness with kamikaze = +0/5)
(take even tougher with kamikaze = +0/10)

I learned it the hard way, because it didn't give a very good explanation whatsoever clearly...  Still, the character I made with it is fine for what I use it for so meh.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 02:55:08 am

Quote from: Michaelh139 on January 22, 2012, 02:44:32 am

You don't get to have any armor threshold from perks.

(take toughness with kamikaze = +0/5)
(take even tougher with kamikaze = +0/10)

I learned it the hard way, because it didn't give a very good explanation whatsoever clearly...  Still, the character I made with it is fine for what I use it for so meh.

But you still get full benefit of any armor? So if you dont go for toughness, the downside doesnt matter anyway?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Michaelh139 on January 22, 2012, 07:10:29 pm

Quote from: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 02:55:08 am

But you still get full benefit of any armor? So if you dont go for toughness, the downside doesnt matter anyway?

yeah pretty much.

But if you're taking kamikaze, you're going for dodging hits, so leather jackets give +0/20 for everything. 
Combat leather jacket gives +2/30 for normal.
Leather armor and above gives a negative to your AC so that's a no-no. (but yes you'll still recieve full benefit from it if you wear it)

So essentially, the best armor you can use and still make full use of your trait is the combat leather jacket. (you will have 2/30 resistant to normal weapons + full AC benefit)

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 07:13:32 pm

Quote from: Michaelh139 on January 22, 2012, 07:10:29 pm

yeah pretty much.

But if you're taking kamikaze, you're going for dodging hits, so leather jackets give +0/20 for everything. 
Combat leather jacket gives +2/30 for normal.
Leather armor and above gives a negative to your AC so that's a no-no. (but yes you'll still recieve full benefit from it if you wear it)

So essentially, the best armor you can use and still make full use of your trait is the combat leather jacket. (you will have 2/30 resistant to normal weapons + full AC benefit)

Sounds interesting. Imagine a Char with 230 AC after the cap is lifted  ;D Thanks you!

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Klaatu on January 22, 2012, 11:28:30 pm

Quote from: Dzej on January 22, 2012, 07:13:32 pm

Sounds interesting. Imagine a Char with 230 AC after the cap is lifted  ;D Thanks you!

With a char like this you should pick Jinxed. Then just run around and troll everyone. :D

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Abaddon Raptus on January 24, 2012, 01:02:40 am

What about Right between the eyes?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 24, 2012, 02:03:35 am

Quote from: Abaddon Raptus on January 24, 2012, 01:02:40 am

What about Right between the eyes?

Huh, what about it?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Sarakin on January 24, 2012, 02:14:08 am

If all what Michaelh139 says is true, Kamikaze is like a free dodger+ perk for everyone not going to take toughness perks. Old Fast Shot anyone ?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Abaddon Raptus on January 24, 2012, 10:51:15 am

Quote from: Crazy on January 24, 2012, 02:03:35 am

Huh, what about it?

I would like to know exactly how it works, because the calculator with nitue.net I do not trust

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 24, 2012, 01:55:31 pm

Quote from: Abaddon Raptus on January 24, 2012, 10:51:15 am

I would like to know exactly how it works, because the calculator with nitue.net I do not trust

With the last changelog, I assume it ignore helmet crit chance mod.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: anarchclaw on January 24, 2012, 06:24:10 pm

so Spray&Pray no longer completely negates armor crit mods.. and instead reduces that mod.

by how much?

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Crazy on January 24, 2012, 11:42:23 pm

Quote from: anarchclaw on January 24, 2012, 06:24:10 pm

so Spray&Pray no longer completely negates armor crit mods.. and instead reduces that mod.

by how much?

Quote from: Changelog

All perks that ignore armours' CMs now reduce Chance CM instead of Power CM.

That should be clear enough. It ignore armour chance crit mod.

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: anarchclaw on January 25, 2012, 12:42:49 am

So before it ignored the power mod and now it only ignores the chance- so why use the word "reduce" instead of "ignore"

and is there any confirmation on its true functionality when using burst attacks? (Big-Guns)

Title: Re: Perks
Post by: Opera on January 27, 2012, 04:24:59 pm

Quote from: lisac on January 06, 2012, 09:09:31 pm

HtH Evade

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 6, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 75
• Description: If both item slots are empty, you get additional 20 points to your AC.

HtH Evade+

• Ranks: 1
• Generic requirements: Level at least 9, Unarmed or Melee Weapons at least 150
• Description: If both of your item slots are empty, you get a +40 bonus to your Armor Class.

Gotta ask something about these perks. The requirements say that you may have Unarmed or Melee Weapons to get these perks. But the description says you may not have any weapons/items in your hands? The old pastebin says: Gives +20 AC if only Unarmed or Melee weapons are in either hand, which makes a lot more sense. Is this just a mistake here or is it really changed that way? Or what is the idea of letting people get this perk with Melee Weapons skill, but not allowing him/her to use the perk with melee weapons?