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Title: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: kttdestroyer on October 12, 2010, 04:27:58 pm
The Topic says it all, i think its missing. Either Assault Rifle or FN FAL or best would be both  8)
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: borse on October 12, 2010, 05:58:25 pm
I agree with you 100%
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: RavenousRat on October 12, 2010, 06:23:58 pm
What for? Hinkley = free gear, don't care what you lose and don't care about ammo.
AR is good for sniper/burster if you don't want to become mad, because some moron killed you while you were holding sniper rifle in your right hand and p90 in your left hand.
In Hinkley you can easily hold top sniper and top bursting SG weapons and don't care that you'll lose most 2 expensive SG guns, because it's Hinkley.
Sniper rifle > AR in single shooting.
p90 > AR in bursting.
AR > Sniper rifle+p90 in price/time-to-craft or get or whatever, but Hinkley ignores it.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Crazy on October 12, 2010, 06:37:07 pm
Bypasses crit of AR can be insane. So it's defendable to use it.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: kttdestroyer on October 12, 2010, 08:30:00 pm
What for? Hinkley = free gear, don't care what you lose and don't care about ammo.
AR is good for sniper/burster if you don't want to become mad, because some moron killed you while you were holding sniper rifle in your right hand and p90 in your left hand.
In Hinkley you can easily hold top sniper and top bursting SG weapons and don't care that you'll lose most 2 expensive SG guns, because it's Hinkley.
Sniper rifle > AR in single shooting.
p90 > AR in bursting.
AR > Sniper rifle+p90 in price/time-to-craft or get or whatever, but Hinkley ignores it.

I take Assault rifle over P90. ;)

Also, some kind of colourizing is needed in Hinkley.

Bypasses crit of AR can be insane. So it's defendable to use it.
I find 10mm AP ammo still weak, and only really usefull when point blank.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 12, 2010, 09:01:11 pm
I would like a flamer mk2 so I could actually do some damage, minigun vs BA might as well be bb gun.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Crazy on October 12, 2010, 09:21:50 pm
I find 10mm AP ammo still weak, and only really usefull when point blank.

I am talking about 5mm JHP. In bypass it roxx, for finesse for exemple.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: borse on October 12, 2010, 10:33:45 pm
I'm not sure that it matters whether or not p90 is better than AR in some aspects. Every gun has its pros and cons. The simple fact the SGers don't have access to their full armory like EW, throwers and BGers do is a little unfair. didn't put in melee because I haven't even checked.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Ned Logan on October 12, 2010, 10:50:38 pm
I'm not sure that it matters whether or not p90 is better than AR in some aspects. Every gun has its pros and cons. The simple fact the SGers don't have access to their full armory like EW, throwers and BGers do is a little unfair. didn't put in melee because I haven't even checked.
Avenger was added finally?
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: borse on October 12, 2010, 10:59:32 pm
Avenger was added finally?
oh no sorry, I just assumed that avenger wasn't that important to BGers. Heard someone say it was useless or something. they should probably add avenger in there too.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Sarakin on October 12, 2010, 11:14:53 pm
I'm not sure that it matters whether or not p90 is better than AR in some aspects. Every gun has its pros and cons. The simple fact the SGers don't have access to their full armory like EW, throwers and BGers do is a little unfair. didn't put in melee because I haven't even checked.
Have you ever been to Hinkley ?
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Solar on October 12, 2010, 11:39:04 pm
Quote
Heard someone say it was useless or something

Yes, people are frequently wrong.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Ganado on October 12, 2010, 11:40:46 pm
I think that all weapons that are available in the game (excluding special encounter weapons) should be allowed to be used in Hinkley.

It is a way to have fun fighting people without losing equipment, but also could be used to test out various weapons, not to only use the high-tier stuff.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: kttdestroyer on October 13, 2010, 07:01:31 pm
Personally, i think this is not gonna work, i remember this from fallout tactics online play. There will be people that only want to play high tier weapons, and people that wont only to play low tier weapons, and diffrent builds included... Really this game is to much about builds but that i mentioned on other thread so lets leave that.

A way to include weaker weapons would be to build a diffrent arena someplace else, only for low tier weapons, a diffrent map and so on. Where there is 10 mm smg instead of p90, hunting rifle instead of sniper, and maximum armor is leather armor.

However, assault rifle is after those changes a high tier weapon i guess, and it should be an alternative for SG bursters (not smg bursters).
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Crazy on October 13, 2010, 07:03:21 pm
You can set weapon and armor rules on the computer, if you want a low tier fight.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 13, 2010, 07:22:52 pm
Avenger was added finally?

no just minigun which does crap damage against ba or rl which does half hp worth of damage if you're lucky then you have a slow reload.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: maszrum on October 13, 2010, 08:23:10 pm
im still waiting for lsw or even ap rocket to arena, to make some kind of balance. and btw. autoaim plasma snipers are to powerful in this arena atm, cant do anytjing with that shity minigun
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Wichura on October 13, 2010, 09:02:31 pm
Improved flamer plx!!!11

Seriously now - idea seems quite cool (I would lost zilion days of power-mining to craft all this equipment), but I'm sure it can be still improved and extended.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: borse on October 14, 2010, 03:23:49 am
You can set weapon and armor rules on the computer, if you want a low tier fight.
this
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: kttdestroyer on October 18, 2010, 06:56:16 pm
this

Yes, this is possible allready as far i am concerned. But no one does it. Why? Becouse most of people wouldint like it. If one people of 20 would like to play with low level tier, what about rest? You know how it works, just look how current real world looks...
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Dark Angel on October 18, 2010, 08:25:59 pm
For me Devs should add :
Light Support Weapon , plasma pistol , cattle prod..

I think assault rifle will fail on hinkley ;)
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Sarakin on October 18, 2010, 08:34:02 pm
Yes, this is possible allready as far i am concerned. But no one does it. Why? Becouse most of people wouldint like it. If one people of 20 would like to play with low level tier, what about rest? You know how it works, just look how current real world looks...
More arenas (and players) might fix this problem
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: kttdestroyer on October 18, 2010, 08:39:15 pm
For me Devs should add :
Light Support Weapon , plasma pistol , cattle prod..

I think assault rifle will fail on hinkley ;)

Ít doesint really matter if it does or not. One of my characters is neither a SMGer or Sniper, thats why i see no reason why i should only use those two when none of those fit my build. He is made as Assault class char.

On the side note, Assault rifle would fail no less then LSW ;)
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Dark Angel on October 18, 2010, 09:03:05 pm
Ít doesint really matter if it does or not. One of my characters is neither a SMGer or Sniper, thats why i see no reason why i should only use those two when none of those fit my build. He is made as Assault class char.

On the side note, Assault rifle would fail no less then LSW ;)

A Like X
B Like Y
C like Z ...

Devs cant add all guns but someone like it and it ....
Of course they should add more guns, but for sniper class i see ONLY  2 small guns ;) . anyway   they shouldn't add shittin guns there ;)
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 18, 2010, 09:40:36 pm
Why not have everything? its not like you can't limit gear levels so its balanced and not everyone wants to play miniguns vs plasma all day (because thats the only viable weapons, bg and ew). Well that and sniper rifle, but smgs are lol in hinkley. Unless you are bursting noobs in leather you aint killing shit.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Bantz on October 18, 2010, 09:50:18 pm
Smgs are lol in hinkley.
Every class in hinkley has a two weapons to chose from. EW laser&plasma, BG minigun&rocket and SG sniper&P90. P90 is nice answer to minigun. If you cant kill shit, its probably your problem, not the weapons.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 18, 2010, 10:03:04 pm
Every class in hinkley has a two weapons to chose from. EW laser&plasma, BG minigun&rocket and SG sniper&P90. P90 is nice answer to minigun. If you cant kill shit, its probably your problem, not the weapons.

half the damage isn't really an "answer". You can't kill anything further than 1 hex because your max dam is 50.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: Crazy on October 18, 2010, 10:24:14 pm
But you can burst 3 times in a raw, and don't need BRD, so can do nasty crit.
Also, 60vs50 is 10 dmg difference, not "half". P90 is good weapon, especially in Hinkley where it's even better than minigun.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: theyseemetrollin on October 18, 2010, 10:27:36 pm
But you can burst 3 times in a raw, and don't need BRD, so can do nasty crit.
Also, 60vs50 is 10 dmg difference, not "half". P90 is good weapon, especially in Hinkley where it's even better than minigun.

Maybe my mistake was making a brd build because the p90 sucks major cock, and you'll never get 3 shots because its a 1 shot exchange/popping out of cover or its 3 guys shooting you at once. You can't rush a group and get more than 1 shot and you can't fight from range, so people need to be stupid enough to go solo and have a shittier gun than you.
Title: Re: Assault Weapon in Hinkley
Post by: kttdestroyer on October 19, 2010, 05:02:58 am
Of course they should add more guns, but for sniper class i see ONLY  2 small guns ;) . anyway   they shouldn't add shittin guns there ;)

Well, like i said, my build is not a sniper class, its an Assault rifle class... You know like SMG but better range.

Every class in hinkley has a two weapons to chose from. EW laser&plasma, BG minigun&rocket and SG sniper&P90. P90 is nice answer to minigun. If you cant kill shit, its probably your problem, not the weapons.

You are counting up Skills not Class there. A minigun build is not a Rocket build (at least in most cases) and a sniper build is not a P90 build. Also, an SG can currently choose from more weapons then that, like pancor and .223 (which is also diffrent build then sniper build).

Like, a Plasma rifle build (energy sniper), is not exacly the same as a Gatling laser (Energy Bg) build would be.

But you can burst 3 times in a raw, and don't need BRD, so can do nasty crit.
Also, 60vs50 is 10 dmg difference, not "half". P90 is good weapon, especially in Hinkley where it's even better than minigun.

When you have fired your 3 times the opponent has allready bursted his minigun and taken cover and you are just standing there stupid with your APs left. I find p90 mostly as an desperate try to counter a minigun not a really solution against point blank (sometimes works, but only if you get a crittical burst in on minigunner and click faster then him). I find personally, the 10mm AP still pretty useless.