Other > Suggestions
Rework PVP
Solar:
--- Quote ---It's unplayable the way it is now unless you're apart of a group.
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Its not unplayable. Its actually pretty easy to play as a loner, once you know what you're doing. Its always going to be easier to play in a group, nothing to do with the game, just the way society works - its why we have countries ;)
Will it be easier to be a loner? I guess it depends on what you're struggling with.
☢MOUSE☢:
--- Quote from: Solar on September 14, 2010, 06:41:30 pm ---it depends on what you're struggling with.
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I'm struggling with not dying at the hands of other players every five minutes.
--- Quote from: John Ryder on September 14, 2010, 06:01:52 pm ---Fonline 2238 was meant to be called Faction Mod so I guess you have to be a part of a group/gang.
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I didn't know that. They should really think about keeping that name. It would really clear up a lot of confusion and keep people from posting rants and suggestions about PVP. I know I wouldn't have.
Well since that's the case good luck with your game. PVP aside it's a very good game and has a lot of potential. If things ever change or if anyone makes a standard online version of FO2 then let me know. I would be happy to take part in any of it.
Eternauta:
I think your suggestion simply goes against the whole idea of unguarded mines, unguarded towns, and the like. PvP works perfectly as it is now. Well maybe it could be better, but the point is: changing PvP the way you say would ruin it.
And yes I know some can work a lot just to get shot by another one who loots his body. But once again, that was the idea of unguarded mines in the first place. And I'm not a PK myself. I too hate getting killed. It has happened to me.
Oh and that thing about the lazy opressing the working people. Yeah it does sound familiar. It happens every day in the capitalist world.
borse:
--- Quote from: ☢MOUSE☢ on September 13, 2010, 01:55:19 pm ---I wouldn't say PVP is "good", it does have it's uses and can be entertaining to all parties if they all give their consent but I still agree to a point. To that same point this PVP system is just giving the game personality and a sense of individuality, however, not all personalities are likable.
My biggest disagreement is not everyone robs because they're desperate. It's the most logical reason but it's not the only one. Too many to ignore rob for the thrill, out of spite, for social acceptance, or just because they're bored. Having an abundance of resources can't break us of our core motives. Believe it or not, there's billionaires who still save empty mayonnaise jars. No matter how desperate a person may or may not be, there's still a reason to act like a fool. It's much easier to regulate or just eliminate the means to carry out this behavior rather than trying to reason with the person's motives.
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NEVER disable pvp. What would fallout be without PVP? Probably something like farmville - FAWRK THAT! Just because you aren't smart enough to avoid trouble doesn't mean the game should be ruined for your sake.
mentant:
The biggest dissapoitment for me is general behavior of players in random encouters. It's either insta-run or insta-shooting. People learn to play this game like this or else they will suffer from PK, thiefes and griefers. There's no place so say something more than "Hi" "Peace", not even talking about "you need help with those aliens?" , "need FA?" , "got some hides to trade for ammo?". Never. Why? Becouse most of the time you'll end up dead. I do the same, even when facing seems-to-be-weaker guy I run behind corner and set burst on, waiting for him or standard red "PEACE". Ask yourself how many friends in Fonline you first met in encouters.
I like PvP when I'm on my combat char. The thrill when you get rushed by some "crazies". With same chances for win, loosing is not even painfull having so much fun. But c'on there's nothing else to do in wasteland:
- You can't work your way to a car/caravan bussiness going becouse you will either lose it in encouter to othet players or your passanger has a radio and some friends with guns waiting.
- You can't work your way to getting a shop in a city. Besides barter comes to standing and waiting for customers, sometimes dodging thiefs.
- Most of time you'll get wasted if you set a foot in unguarded area. Doing quest or some RPG-stuff is kinda difficult.
- The only option we get is top stuff for PvP (armors/ammo/guns/bases).
PVP invitation is prolly the worst idea ever for fonline. It would get exploited and we don't really need it. IMHO what we need are some other goals in game. Personally I'm looking forward for NPC faction overhaul and changing unguarded cites from PvP arenas and bringing some life there.
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