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Changelog 08/09/2010
Solar:
--- Quote from: Hololasima on September 18, 2010, 08:15:21 pm ---So first test was Avenger + 2xBRD to person who had only BA.
Second test was LSW + 25 crit chance to person who had only BA.
Can you test LSW with 25 crit chance AND 2x BRD ? Also you can do this test with Avenger. Then type and you will see ...
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First test was Avenger and LSW with 2 BRD. Then it was LSW to compare 2 BRD to 3* more crits, as crazy asked for.
--- Quote from: Johnny Nuclear on September 18, 2010, 07:03:08 pm ---adins just dont likle BGuns.
solar were you also testing it with psycho ?
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Psycho wouldn't change anything because they would both be affected equally.
Heckler Spray:
--- Quote from: Wichura on September 19, 2010, 11:45:37 am ---
But seriously - I liked Fast Shot trait a lot. Now it's like a Bloody Mess trait - almost useless.
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Yeah, but problem is : a trait has to provide an advantage AND an disavantage for every type of character. Unfortunately, Fast Shot didn't have any negative side for a Big Gunner, it was a must-have. Maybe it should be rework again to allow Big Gunners to take this trait, but not set as it was before.
Wichura:
There was a disadvantage - you couldn't aim. Any snipers here with Fast Shot?
Solar:
--- Quote from: Hololasima on September 18, 2010, 08:15:21 pm ---Can you test LSW with 25 crit chance AND 2x BRD ? Also you can do this test with Avenger. Then type and you will see ...
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LSW:
--- Quote ---BRDx2: ok, 20 shots
11:07:00 • BRDx2: lsw
11:07:03 • Gorlak was hit for 84 hit points.
11:07:06 • Gorlak was hit for 75 hit points.
11:07:11 • Gorlak was hit for 101 hit points.
11:07:13 • Gorlak was hit for 73 hit points.
11:07:17 • Gorlak was hit for 76 hit points.
11:07:21 • Gorlak was hit for 25 hit points.
11:07:24 • Gorlak was hit for 90 hit points.
11:07:28 • Gorlak was hit for 77 hit points.
11:07:31 • Gorlak was hit for 67 hit points.
11:07:35 • Gorlak was critically hit for 115 hit points.
11:07:39 • Gorlak was critically hit for 131 hit points.
11:07:42 • Gorlak was hit for 16 hit points.
11:07:46 • Gorlak was hit for 83 hit points.
11:07:50 • Gorlak was hit for 74 hit points.
11:07:53 • Gorlak was hit for 77 hit points.
11:07:57 • Gorlak was hit for 74 hit points.
11:08:03 • Gorlak was critically hit for 202 hit points and was killed.
11:08:12 • Gorlak was hit for 75 hit points.
11:08:16 • Gorlak was hit for 84 hit points.
11:08:33 • Gorlak was hit for 89 hit points.
11:08:36 • BRDx2: ok, 20
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Avenger:
--- Quote ---BRDx2: now avenger
11:08:48 • Gorlak was hit for 68 hit points.
11:08:50 • Gorlak was critically hit for 163 hit points.
11:08:54 • Gorlak was hit for 97 hit points.
11:08:58 • Gorlak was hit for 94 hit points.
11:09:01 • Gorlak was critically hit for 217 hit points.
11:09:05 • Gorlak was hit for 69 hit points.
11:09:09 • Gorlak was critically hit for 161 hit points.
11:09:12 • Gorlak was hit for 91 hit points.
11:09:16 • Gorlak was hit for 26 hit points.
11:09:21 • Gorlak was hit for 51 hit points.
11:09:25 • Gorlak was hit for 96 hit points.
11:09:27 • Gorlak was hit for 92 hit points.
11:09:31 • Gorlak was hit for 96 hit points.
11:09:35 • Gorlak was hit for 99 hit points.
11:09:39 • Gorlak was hit for 87 hit points.
11:09:42 • Gorlak was hit for 75 hit points.
11:09:46 • Gorlak was hit for 66 hit points.
11:09:49 • Gorlak was hit for 65 hit points.
11:09:53 • Gorlak was hit for 67 hit points.
11:10:08 • Gorlak was hit for 89 hit points.
11:10:11 • BRDx2: ok, 20
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1869 Avenger (Average of 93.45) 1614 LSW (Average of 80.7)
Result as expected, again. (Theres nothing in the uncalled crit table that would favour LSW, so its like psycho and won't change relative power level.
Avenger is better.
Also, bursts still way out perform sniper type weapons in damage terms. There will be more perks (like stonewall) that protect against crit effects and a trait to reduce the crit roll ... snipers just haven't had all of their toning down done yet.
Fast Shot will be more useful - its actually useful for builds now though. Fast shot, pistol build + living anatomy. The concept will be expanded with future perk reworks though - at the moment its only really 14mm, .223 pistol and plasma pistol that are pvp kind of level.
Crazy:
Solar, sorry, but... What about with better crit? ;p
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