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[Floodnik]

Don't listen to them, finesse works well with unarmed because your damage is always shit so you might as well go for crippling, and 10 luck only gives great bonus to eye hits arms are still a pain.

Don't listen to who? Only one person in this topic said that you shouldn't take finesse. Learn2read.

[John.Metzger]

there are cripplers and damagers. both are good, but you have to decide. two in one sucks anyway.
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here, one normal round with the puredamager and a rock:



EDIT: or here, against deathclaw (rock again) :

• You see Cave Wall.
• You were hit in the head for 21 hit points.
• You see: Deathclaw.
• Deathclaw was hit for 15 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 11 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 5 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 10 hit points.
• Deathclaw was critically hit for 15 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 11 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 15 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 14 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 13 hit points.

• You see: Deathclaw. He looks: Severely Wounded. (first round)

• You were hit in the eyes for 5 hit points.
• You were critically hit for 34 hit points.
• You were hit for 12 hit points.
• Deathclaw was critically hit for 12 hit points.
• Deathclaw was critically hit for 5 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 14 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 6 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 8 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 12 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 13 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 14 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 13 hit points.

• You see: Deathclaw. He looks: Almost Dead. (secound round)

• You were critically hit in the eyes for 38 hit points, blinded and had your armor bypassed.
• You were critically hit in the eyes for 15 hit points.
• Deathclaw was critically hit for 10 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 14 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 8 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 5 hit points.
• Deathclaw was critically hit for 22 hit points.
• Deathclaw was hit for 13 hit points and was killed.

• You have gained 1000 experience points. (and the third round is over)
 

your damage is always shit so you might as well go for crippling

not true + not the best advices..

but here a nice, small and funny example for the unarmedfinessecrippler:



love it too. cheers.

[theyseemetrollin]

with finesse, 2x action boy, faster hth, a rock and better crits you can have 4 aimed eye shots a turn, for pve that means you can take out almost anything one on one in tb. Any beasts die by instakill and any humans you just disarm and pick up their weapons and they become harmless.

[Floodnik]

With 2 action boys. And that's a rock, so melee, not unarmed. But we could try melee too.

[theyseemetrollin]

With 2 action boys. And that's a rock, so melee, not unarmed. But we could try melee too.

rock is an unarmed weapon, that's why it says punch. Even if it was melee it wouldn't change anything.

[Floodnik]

rock is an unarmed weapon, that's why it says punch. Even if it was melee it wouldn't change anything.

Oh, I didnt know that O_o That's nice though then.

[Cocain]

Oh, I didnt know that O_o That's nice though then.

ever1 talks about rock.. whats so special?

[Ganado]

ever1 talks about rock.. whats so special?

Low damage, but 1 AP for rock vs 2 AP unarmed (with bonus HtH attacks). Spiked knuckles after recent boost are still better unless you are just going for low AP aimed shots, that is the only way a rock would still have a use.

[Crazy]

ever1 talks about rock.. whats so special?

Very low AP cost

[Cocain]

Low damage, but 1 AP for rock vs 2 AP unarmed (with bonus HtH attacks). Spiked knuckles after recent boost are still better unless you are just going for low AP aimed shots, that is the only way a rock would still have a use.

doesnt the rock negates the 15% crit bonus from haymaker?

[John.Metzger]

doesnt the rock negates the 15% crit bonus from haymaker?

sure .. you use rock... not highmaker

[Cocain]

sure .. you use rock... not highmaker

well that sucks.. does the character creation tool had the 15% from haymaker to the critical chances table?

[John.Metzger]

i guess nope... why it should...
you got other kinds of kicks and punches.. they shouldn´t count..

[Cocain]

i guess nope... why it should...
you got other kinds of kicks and punches.. they shouldn´t count..

one last question.. why is better criticals so importante?

whats the diference between critical hit chances and critical hit table?

[John.Metzger]

to be honest, i have absolutly no knowlegde with critical hit tables and all.. i just play.
but you do supercrits then.. like 250damage with one eyehit on ncr ranger.. ect.
it open a bigger possibility of damage. like an dice with more numbers.
god i realy have no knowledge heh. ask RavenousRat