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I would like to address the thief greifing problem.
Ganado:
--- Quote from: Trokanis on September 06, 2010, 04:51:36 AM ---I have to apologize. I have been standing by Michaelh139 and his issues with being griefed by thieves in NCR and the trouble they're causing. While I agree that something needs to be changed about the merchants 1 at a time talk, and the Thieving system in [GUARDED] towns, but Michaelh139 has NO room to talk about being griefed by PC's. After being pk'd by him losing again everything I worked my ass off for, and having him say some seriously wrong things to me while waiting to replicate. So I say now I'm sorry to back a PK'n noob. I agree with his thoughts, as stated above. But I do not agree with him, he is a griefer himself, I guess it takes one to know one as it were, in his case...
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Cry us a river, that has nothing to do with the topic.
The fake stealing and the blocking people into corners is really nerve-racking.
Michaelh139:
--- Quote from: Trokanis on September 06, 2010, 04:51:36 AM ---I have to apologize. I have been standing by Michaelh139 and his issues with being griefed by thieves in NCR and the trouble they're causing. While I agree that something needs to be changed about the merchants 1 at a time talk, and the Thieving system in [GUARDED] towns, but Michaelh139 has NO room to talk about being griefed by PC's. After being pk'd by him losing again everything I worked my ass off for, and having him say some seriously wrong things to me while waiting to replicate. So I say now I'm sorry to back a PK'n noob. I agree with his thoughts, as stated above. But I do not agree with him, he is a griefer himself, I guess it takes one to know one as it were, in his case...
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1. This is not the place to complain about being killed by some a pker.
2. I do have the room to talk bout being griefed by PCs, Thieving is semi-broken for the victim, no way to counter but hope he eventually leaves you alone, however, pvp is not broken, although certain aspects need to be polished of course.
3. calling me a noob is trolling and not allowed on forum.
4. Pvp is griefing yes, taking people's items is griefing, yes, but its a part of the game and a at least somewhat well-done and focused on part of the game, however, as stated before, thieving is somewhat broken and literally nothing but a griefing tool for some. I killed you for your items, which yes was fun and considered griefng is completely allowed part of the game. Want revenge? Take a smg and burst my ass, I aint only got 86 hp, you should hit 100 easy at 1hex in NCR or Hub withot armor, who knows, you might make me lose 100k caps.
Trokanis:
Cry more foul it's funny Mic.
In either case Thieving is an issue along with being forced into random encounters with pcs holding a 4 to 1 advantage. I don't think changing the stealing visual will help a lot. There are still too many of them able to continue stealing from you, especially after they have been killed. And as stated a billion times, when waiting for a 1 at a time merchant might as well leave your gear on the ground.
HertogJan:
--- Quote from: Dishonest Abe on September 06, 2010, 05:12:43 AM ---The fake stealing and the blocking people into corners is really nerve-racking.
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Amen.
There's no way at the moment to recognize someone as a thief or as an impatient basterd scaring of the other players as he can't wait.
Not to mention the assholes who keep a trader occupied while having an empty inventory.
HertogJan:
--- Quote from: HertogJan on September 06, 2010, 07:42:17 AM ---Amen.
There's no way at the moment to recognize someone as a thief or as an impatient basterd scaring of the other players as he can't wait.
Not to mention the assholes who keep a trader occupied while having an empty inventory.
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--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on September 06, 2010, 05:19:40 AM ---2. I do have the room to talk bout being griefed by PCs, Thieving is semi-broken for the victim, no way to counter but hope he eventually leaves you alone, however, pvp is not broken, although certain aspects need to be polished of course.
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Hunting low level blue suits in teams is grieving too but as said off topic.
Nevertheless perhaps we should have a topic discussing how broken that is for the victim.
Thieving works fine the way it is.
Suggestions have been discussed, autopush was a good one.
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