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[Holden]

I love fallout, I love the idea of a fallout MMO and you have done a great job at creating fonline however there are some severe game breaking issues that need patching asap.

This game has so much potential but its being hindered and is failing and making people ( like me ) lose interest quickly.

Lets start with the pvp system.

first off when someone loads into a zone someone is on the other side and kills them instantly before they can even react.
This is because of load zone camping and 1 hit killing and is one of the BIGGEST PROBLEMS with this game.

this is bad, lets list the other good and bad things about pvp shall we?

Good ideas:
bounty's = good
ability to pvp in wilderness randoms = good
some towns don't have guards = good


Bad Ideas:
kill anyone without consequences = bad
1 shot kills in pvp = bad
Level gap in pvp = bad
Can't call guards on theifs = bad
Guard cities have entire green zones without guards = bad ( hub I'm lookin at you )
Load zone camping and no loading protection time. = bad

My suggestion to fix these things >

Add protection time when loading into a new zone. ( make players going into cities or new areas protected from pvp for 15 seconds with a cooldown so they cant safe scout to far )

Add more then one area to enter into all major cities ( allow us to choose where to spawn in IE front gate, back gate, or middle of city this will stop spawn camping )

Allow people to type /guards and guards will kill any red player or unprotected player ( thief ) in the players or guards line of sight.

Re-balance guns and levels so people cannot 1 hit kill anymore.

Add a shit load of emphasis on specific targeting ( targeting body parts, IE hitting chest does hardly any damage )

Add Karma ratings to pvp kills, everyone starts neutral ( 0 karma ) go below 0 karma and you go red, go above 0 and you go blue.

Kill a gray ( neutral 0 karma ) player and you get -5 to karma.

kill a blue ( greater then 0 karma ) player and get -10 karma.

Kill red ( less than 0 karma ) player and get +5 karma

Guards automatically kill or arrest players with negative karma ( red players )

Towns without guards are good places for these players to be and thrive.

[DonGizmo]

Add Karma ratings to pvp kills, everyone starts neutral ( 0 karma ) go below 0 karma and you go red, go above 0 and you go blue.

Kill a gray ( neutral 0 karma ) player and you get -5 to karma.

kill a blue ( greater then 0 karma ) player and get -10 karma.

Kill red ( less than 0 karma ) player and get +5 karma

Guards automatically kill or arrest players with negative karma ( red players )

Towns without guards are good places for these players to be and thrive.

 So many work you did to create this topic, but it is still bad suggestions :/

 Example: i newbie, i have zero karma, i am attacked by blue karma player, i just defense myself and i kill him => i am red karma player and i will be killed by npc stupid

 Karma solution is suggested whole time of existence of fonline and best existing solution is still: take care about yourself as best as you can.

 Other suggestions: use town preview and different city entrances if you want enter the city.

[Izual]

"Beta".

[Floodnik]

Game has potential but fails

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=614033
Something like this?

[Holden]

"Beta".

Not an excuse, if this game is beta then that means they should be trying to improve it and fix it until its not beta.

@ Gizmo if a player attacks you or steals from you they go " unprotected " and killing them would not affect your karma. thus defending yourself is okay and does not affect karma.

Is the entrance system in game? ( loading in thru a different entrance? ) if so then great I will definitly use that, but that still does not stop people from load zone camping and 1 shot killing me.

[Michaelh139]

Not an excuse, if this game is beta then that means they should be trying to improve it and fix it until its not beta.

@ Gizmo if a player attacks you or steals from you they go " unprotected " and killing them would not affect your karma. thus defending yourself is okay and does not affect karma.

Is the entrance system in game? ( loading in thru a different entrance? ) if so then great I will definitly use that, but that still does not stop people from load zone camping and 1 shot killing me.

Nope but you can also preview the loading spot to look for those campers.

[Izual]

Not an excuse, if this game is beta then that means they should be trying to improve it and fix it until its not beta.

They're doing it.

[Holden]

They're doing it.

Is there a future updates section? where we can see what the devs are working on?

I sure hope they balance this soon, seems like a no brainer to me but I cannot belittle their efforts I wish them luck and hopefully it gets fixed soon and we can all donate and play a great game.

[Insanity]

"Add more then one area to enter into all major cities ( allow us to choose where to spawn in IE front gate, back gate, or middle of city this will stop spawn camping )"

You already can.


Edit : Click the "Town World" (or something like that) button on the right sidebar and select which entrance.

[Izual]

Well really, they're currently working on a huge update, and they gave numerous infos about it all across the forum. Anyway, if you want to know if they're going to balance the game, the answer is yes, if you want to know if they're going to fix bad things, the answer is yes.

[Holden]

You already can.

how. would be nice to know, since when I goto a city it just loads me into the front gate as soon as I click the green triangle.

[DonGizmo]

@ Gizmo if a player attacks you or steals from you they go " unprotected " and killing them would not affect your karma. thus defending yourself is okay and does not affect karma.

 So if someone is blue, but he hates me and often kill me, but i am weak to "charge" my blue karma points, i cannot attack him, until he will attack me first?

 I dont want to continue with this debate, i want only show you, that even simply karma system has many many bugs and you are offering anything new, there were better, but still very limited ideas that could be exploited (i.e. "charge your blue karma via killing bad alts,..).

 No, best solution is no karma at the moment. You have safe places, you have danger places, arm yourself, make group with another players, this is the solution.

[Michaelh139]

how. would be nice to know, since when I goto a city it just loads me into the front gate as soon as I click the green triangle.

Click the triangle ABOVE the empty green on first.

[Floodnik]

I think he still didn't get that HE NEEDS TO CLICK "Town World" button which is at the right-bottom corner of the screen when on world map FIRST.

[_Youkai_]

Add Karma ratings to pvp kills, everyone starts neutral ( 0 karma ) go below 0 karma and you go red, go above 0 and you go blue.

Kill a gray ( neutral 0 karma ) player and you get -5 to karma.

kill a blue ( greater then 0 karma ) player and get -10 karma.

Kill red ( less than 0 karma ) player and get +5 karma

Guards automatically kill or arrest players with negative karma ( red players )

UO? 
I suggested this too... months ago no one cares