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Future of Stealing
avv:
--- Quote from: HertogJan on August 25, 2010, 04:58:38 pm ---Still marking someone as thief means he'll get caught when trying to steal from you is insane.
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How come? You set him a trap and he falls in it. It's the same thing if you know someone is a thief, wait for him to come near you, put his hand in your pocket and then you grab his wrist it and slice his throat.
What needs to be done is to give thieves more chances to run away once they are caught. Making a plan b for failed attempts should always be the option for skilled thieves. Right now there's just 2 options: succeed or die.
HertogJan:
--- Quote from: avv on August 25, 2010, 05:09:58 pm ---How come? You set him a trap and he falls in it. It's the same thing if you know someone is a thief, wait for him to come near you, put his hand in your pocket and then you grab his wrist it and slice his throat.
What needs to be done is to give thieves more chances to run away once they are caught. Making a plan b for failed attempts should always be the option for skilled thieves. Right now there's just 2 options: succeed or die.
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How would you know he's a thief if he never failed to steal from you before?
You don't.
Also the thief might just use something to draw your attention away and than steal from you.
You don't have eyes in your back now do you?
According to the wiki all that's taken into consideration now are pick pocket perk, steal skill and perception of the victim.
What should be added is agility, luck and intelligence and perhaps sneak from the thief's side and luck and intelligence from the victim's side.
Although I still believe it's fine the way it is now as high skilled thieves still fail regularly.
avv:
--- Quote from: HertogJan on August 25, 2010, 05:52:58 pm ---How would you know he's a thief if he never failed to steal from you before?
You don't.
Also the thief might just use something to draw your attention away and than steal from you.
You don't have eyes in your back now do you?
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Gut feeling. Experienced wastelander might recognize a thief just by looking at him. Experienced wastelander might also recognize the thief's confusing tricks.
--- Quote from: HertogJan on August 25, 2010, 05:52:58 pm ---According to the wiki all that's taken into consideration now are pick pocket perk, steal skill and perception of the victim.
What should be added is agility, luck and intelligence and perhaps sneak from the thief's side and luck and intelligence from the victim's side.
Although I still believe it's fine the way it is now as high skilled thieves still fail regularly.
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The more rolls you add, the less control the players have and the worse it's going to get. Rolls work against npcs because they cannot be fooled like players.
It doesn't matter how high ones steal% is. It doesn't give players the right to succeed more often against other players. Investing points in steal skill doesn't take any knowledge, experience or personal cleverness so they don't deserve any major outcome from it either.
DonGizmo:
Thief is more than char with enoufh steal skill. He needs to combine other skill and player skill to succeed. But he needs more opportunities, than he have now:
http://fodev.net/forum/index.php?topic=8436.0 This could be a great places for steal.
smoothjesus:
--- Quote from: HertogJan on August 25, 2010, 05:52:58 pm ---How would you know he's a thief if he never failed to steal from you before?
You don't.
Also the thief might just use something to draw your attention away and than steal from you.
You don't have eyes in your back now do you?
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Generally you know the thief at the market is the one who is very eager to stand next to you. Alternatively you can just watch for 2 minutes and you'll see them stealing from other people.
As for distractions, you'll have to think of those to stop yourself being tagged as a thief, I can think of several excuses to be standing next to someone right now, I'm sure people will think of more. A guy called Vegeta used a clever one on me a while ago trying to unarmed PK me.
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