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Future of Stealing

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Enzo:
the most stupid thing about stealing is, that you have no way to prevent stealing...
you come to town, go to trader and try to barter... a person came to you and tries to steal from you... you quickly close the dialogue screen and run, then the thief stays there, waiting for you again... and you know, that he is thief, but you cant do anything against him, until the guards see him stealing...

stealing without animation is pretty dumb idea, because it will ruin trading between players completely...

Pandemon:
Try to trade in less overcrowded place?
Stop nerfing stealing, it's hard enough now.

Enzo:

--- Quote from: Pandemon on August 08, 2010, 01:00:31 pm ---Try to trade in less overcrowded place?
Stop nerfing stealing, it's hard enough now.

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please read again... i am talking about animation while stealing... if it will be disabled, trades between players become impossible, because you have to stay right next to other player to trade, and you will never know if he is not stealing from you (or at least you will realize it too late)...
Thieving at vendors places should be considered the same as blocking, because it makes vendors inaccessible (if you dont want to lose your stuff), and in real situation, no shop owner will let the thief steal in his shop...

smoothjesus:

--- Quote from: GroeneAppel on August 08, 2010, 12:13:36 pm ---You seem to underestimate how annoying the life from a thief is
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Oh wow...

"we tend to fail stealing a single cap with even 300% steal,"
And yet you often easily steal rifles and heavy ore from peoples' back pockets in plain view of 3 guards and a shop keeper. And what do you lose when you fail a steal attempt? Oh that's right:

"we spawn at Klamath more often than you think. these days no one carries good items in NCR anyway we barely make any profit, and get shot often."
You get shot and lose nothing.. then from klamath its 5-10 minutes to get back to NCR.. less if you just kill yourself until you respawn closer. And you barely make a profit? Define profit please, because thieves don't really cost you anything you should be making 100% profit.

" and there is the problem that it takes ages to actually level your thief character."
So guards, shopkeepers and players should respect your efforts by letting you walk around town stealing in front of everybody and going unpunished?


--- Quote from: Pandemon on August 08, 2010, 01:00:31 pm ---Try to trade in less overcrowded place?

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Read the last bit of my original post again.

"Stop nerfing stealing, it's hard enough now."
I'm suggesting punishments for getting caught being an ass in town (not just stealing) and a way for people to defend themselves from prolific and careless thieves. I'm not suggesting the steal skill be nerfed.

Schwartz:
Steal is hard enought now, dont nerf it more.

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