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totally unplayable game by begginers
« on: August 01, 2010, 03:20:06 am »

Hi,

i played Fonline whole day. It was great when i heard that there is multiplayer fallout2.
First steps were really hard (so i was thinking to myself). But when i reach around 50 death and lost again all my eq that game became really annoying.
Yeah i get it that post-nuclear world is killing-ass but lets say that... beginners dont have chance in this game.
those are my Insight to the game:
1. Making tent is really hard...
because firstable you need to survive long enough with farmed equipment to start killing bramins. And even then you can encounter marauders that kills with one shot and so on and so on...
Shouldn't it be easier to contain items in bank deposit? or instead tent (dont know how its looking like), first object to craft should be storage box (like 10 flints 10 junks 10 wood to farm) and tent would be upgrade to that
2. Another thing is that players also dont help and the beginning... i mean that sneaking ones in NCR that throw nades in crowd
its really pissing of when another player kills you when you just start playing... what chances have 1 lvl with no eq vs xx lvl with armor and guns?
and why the hell some dude is still killing newbies even when they just have trash in their eq... thats just wasting ammo
3. Almost no quest in game...
few quest is not an option... Fallout was "THE GAME" because really f**ing cool story in epic world. That was making that game so cool.
Why not implement some event simple quest to increase lvl for newbies? that would be nice start and gives some chances against rats ;P


I would guess that 90% players that leave that game was because that 3 points that i just written. Remember that bigger community means more cash for developer - so they would have more desire to work at this project.

besides that that game rocks!! but i wont get back to it. Maybe at next wipe ;)

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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2010, 03:32:28 am »

That's it, I'm definitely going to write an uber beginners' guide. What's a shame is that an experienced player can start with nothing and have his tent within the first ten minutes of playing and be level 21 after 5-12 hours, depending on his build.
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2010, 03:44:08 am »

Well once you get used to it the game gets pretty easy and you only slip up the odd time when get into an encounter and another player snipes you from across the map before you can get out.

...bastards.
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2010, 04:00:08 am »

Gadzin, lets meet up, my ingame name is xPoncex. I'll help you out building a tent and so on.

Somethings to remember
1) As far as i know the dev's are working on their own free time. They do not get paid, they do recieve donations, which i do believe is for the servers. There is no free2play service going on here.
2)Read this, http://www.fo2238.fodev.net/wiki/Advice_for_beginners . I started only 1 week ago and im unarmed guy whos level 10. If i can make it you can too.
3) You don't have to go playing Fonline2238 alone. I know there are alot of people who want to kill you but there are still good people left.

Pm me and ill help you out.
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2010, 04:01:11 am »

It seems you just met wrong people.
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2010, 04:26:27 am »

I've been trying to help people as best I can, generally it is veteran players that make it difficult for new ones, here are some lowlights so far.

-giving brahmin hides to a player only to have them come on a day later complaining about being tent raided, tent followers are the scum of FO in my opinion because only new players fall for it.
-taking a new player to a shared base (set up to help new players) so they can grab some noob equipment, they run away and reappear later at NCR selling brahmin hides they stole from the base.
-going on a hunting trip with a new player only to bring them back to NCR and see them get bombed on the way to the store, happened twice to the same player.
-encountering a random wastelander and giving them some equipment, random PKer enters encounter and attacks, luckily the new guy got away and I only lost a 96% det SMG. 10 microfusion cells for 1 broken smg and 14 10mm jhp? Is that worth it? and I shot him in the dick 6 times, nothing is worth that.


New players I would suggest using TTTLA's name colorizing list. I have compared my own list to it, and it is pretty good, despite what people say about it. (Just remove the first part so you don't mark TTTLA members as friends)
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2010, 12:43:06 pm »

Its good idea before start a game , read all info about it  ;)After that all is easy.
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2010, 01:32:37 pm »

I agree that the start might be a bit difficult, but if you read the wiki and the board and maybe visit the irc channel it should be VERY easy to get 10 hides. I really remember all those games i played in the past and some have been really hard. Why do people today always give up if it gets a bit challenging? I dont get it, really. This way you can at least feel awarded if you reach something you had to fight for. Some games are not supposed to be easy at all, and this game is hard but surely not unplayable. How did all the others get to where they are now if its unplayable?

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« Last Edit: August 01, 2010, 01:34:41 pm by Chiko »
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2010, 05:57:01 pm »

This game is not user friendly...AT ALL. the player base will never go further than it is if things stay like this.i dont even know how people keep playing when all you do are like 3 things,hunt,craft and maybe town control. of course there is theifing but thats stupid all together. Player killing is out of control and keeps new players from wanting to play. What i have said isnt anything new to hear, so whats being done about any of it?
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2010, 06:00:16 pm »

I for one only shoot poeple with higher health than 80, but never really kill them, i try to take em to -hp, and then have a little chat, if they can't see reason I finish em since I guess that they would kill me if they had the first shot...
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2010, 06:13:22 pm »

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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2010, 06:37:26 pm »

I for one only shoot poeple with higher health than 80, but never really kill them, i try to take em to -hp, and then have a little chat, if they can't see reason I finish em since I guess that they would kill me if they had the first shot...

i just hope, you had forgot to say that these people in your post, attacked you first.
edit: nah.. dont seems so if ya talk about first shot.. hell..
seriously, you shoot them as first, then chat with them on ground and if they don´t see the reason for your action you kill them?
damn. is that my english skill? can´t belive this shit.

Beta.

pff whatelse? ah right, a open beta.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2010, 06:51:54 pm by John.Metzger »
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2010, 07:52:51 pm »

well, I also have a quite extensive namecolorising list, only blast people who are over 80hp and not on my list & on my list blacklist
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Re: totally unplayable game by begginers
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2010, 08:23:26 pm »

well, I also have a quite extensive namecolorising list, only blast people who are over 80hp and not on my list & on my list blacklist

sorry there was a lack of situation definition on my side.   :-\

i do the same with guys from my blacklist, for sure.
most of them are above 150 hp anyway
but i never talking with them or even looking for repentance in a raiders face...
all of that guys on my list had killed one of my brothers in the past.
they deserve bullets... no conversation... *some kind of cheap roleplaying*
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