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[Nice_Boat]

Does anyone even read those back and forth post dissections?

If you are not interested, why are you posting? What exactly was your contribution here? And there are still matters to resolve:

#1 - would access to GM logs for GMs and the three "watchdogs" be disagreeable with anyone?
EDIT, because I forgot:
- whenever a GM performs an action related to a player character, the aforementioned player receives a text message what exactly was changed, who did it and what the effect is.
#3 - would you agree to have 3 watchdogs each from one of the groups of the big three? I don't see how we could choose one and the selection should be balanced to keep things fair, so perhaps someone could offer another criteria if the ones I proposed aren't acceptable?
#4 - mostly everyone agrees it's okay, so should the development of server rules get its separate thread or should it be left to Devs and GMs?

... those issues weren't even scratched. Does that mean that everyone agrees?

I hope we'll start discussing these and make progress, with no trolls coming here to wage their little flame wars anymore.

[Solar]

#1 - would access to GM logs for GMs and the three "watchdogs" be disagreeable with anyone?

The only people accessing GM logs will be certain Devs (Not me). These "watchdogs" would purely be a way to filter out the nonsense complaints (ie 99% of them) and pass on anything that is genuinely a problem to the correct person.

[Nice_Boat]

The only people accessing GM logs will be certain Devs (Not me). These "watchdogs" would purely be a way to filter out the nonsense complaints (ie 99% of them) and pass on anything that is genuinely a problem to the correct person.

Uh, okay. But how could they filter out anything if they didn't have the means of checking anything? By nonsense you mean obvious crap, like "he jinxed me so I don't any critical hits!" or "GM turned a no special encounter mode on for me"? If so, being such a watchdog wouldn't really be a position of much responsibility - one or two guys with different backgrounds would be enough I think.

[Izual]

Forget about it, Nice Boat. Your struggle for power is bound to fail. As a lot of people told you in this thread, only devs will watch our logs and it's the best way to make sure we are not evil abusers. If they check us regularly (on a daily basis), there is no way we could abuse.

[Nice_Boat]

Forget about it, Nice Boat. Your struggle for power is bound to fail. As a lot of people told you in this thread, only devs will watch our logs and it's the best way to make sure we are not evil abusers. If they check us regularly (on a daily basis), there is no way we could abuse.

... yeah, like you didn't abuse on IRC today I wonder who's gonna "check" that, mr Trollzual... because honestly, I don't need to explain anything to you (somebody did lift my ban, because somebody apparently could and that's all for you), and you banning me for refusing to talk with you is sort of very ho-hum.

Also, I don't really need to "struggle for power" because I have all the power I want. I don't even care who's gonna be on that post if he does his job and bitchslaps queens like you into correct attitude. And let's be honest - if they thoroughly checked you on a daily basis, you wouldn't be a GM for long.

[Shangalar]

Also, I don't really need to "struggle for power" because I have all the power I want.

I laughed. Sorry, but AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH !

[Nice_Boat]

I laughed. Sorry, but AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH !

 

...see, when a GM blatantly trolls like that, what one can do?

Did I ever apply for GM? No. Did I ever play to win instead of playing to enjoy the PvP element? No. Now, I come here saying that some people should actually have less power than they currently have, and the most arrogant and abusive GM and his buddies accuse me of plotting to gain power?

Have mercy Shangalar, there are limits to the amounts of irony and hypocrisy this universe can take.

[eBay]

And let's be honest - if they thoroughly checked you on a daily basis, you wouldn't be a GM for long.

well he wouldnt be a gm in 24 hours

[Lexx]

And I bet you would have been banned from the game already.

[eBay]

well once i told u about a gm who was giving ammo for free i told u a date + - 1 day, ammount and the nick of the gm what have u done? nothing, the guy is still a gm.
these people kill, teleport, give stuff for free , spy, spam npcs, basically they do whatever they want they cover each other there must be someone looking at them from above

im done

[gordulan]

he probably said the following: Hey, [GM's name] you really should stop giving the edge to thse guys, it unbalances the game, don't let me catch you doing that again, otherwise I'm gonna have to suspend you for an indefinite period.
This I think is a paerfectly reasonable way of warning the GMs, and after all this is a BETA man...

[eBay]

u know what? if a player breaks the rules, he got jailed or banned for xxx or xxxxxxxxxxxxxx hours,

[gordulan]

so, you can just make a new alt, that's what you people do best anyways

[Wipe]

some crap

im done

more crap

You just don't know when you should stop posting, eh?

[anyuta]

author=HertogJan link=topic=6898.msg60365#msg60365 date=1279622051]
If they would be helping with developing the game, they would report those exploits and cheats instead of using them till devs are made aware of them.

sorry when i interrupt you but can we have an answer to this question? Cause i also thinking the same thing, and i think its an important point.

to the GM thing: all arguments againt "moa control" were said, i think this Thread developing in a way where people insult each other and no longer discuss and bringing their arguments. So "suggestions" make no sense. For me i must say i thing their doin a good job, also when i have some bans preprewipe .

sorry for my bad english irts my first post!