Other > Closed suggestions
GM abuse counteraction, GM activity to be made transparent
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on July 19, 2010, 11:09:08 am ---So this is what you are aiming for? No way this would ever happen, as 1) no one in the team is really interested in gang issues at all, it just isn't important who is a "leader" of one "big gang". Also, this would lead to ENDLESS discussions, forum would be drownend in an infinite spamming wave. Seriously, if such thing would happen, I wouldn't "waste" my time here anymore, as I would have to click on "delete" every few minutes. Bad idea.
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This is already happening in a much worse way than I proposed because one of the groups is overrepresented. And what do you mean by saying "that's what I'm aiming for"? I'm aiming for a fair environment, with everyone watching everyone else. It's called checks and balances and is widely considered to be a good thing. Also, the thing with the team being uninterested makes me raise my brow a bit - this game revolves around TC, and not a single one of you is interested in the groups that take part? That's a good one, I'll remember it the next time the uninterested Samira bans entire BBS from IRC because one person trolled, or uninterested Izual prepares a training camp for his folks or brings his silly little army to fight us in an unprotected area.
Moreover, I find it quite curious that the only gang-related people who have something against controlling GM actions at all are members of the same group that's overrepresented in the GM crowd. Am I being paranoid again? Let's check some other threads... oooh, it's always the same. Sorry, I'm not.
Also, I find your remark about forum floods being laughable, because (and I don't know how many times I've written it already) the system would be 'suspected abuse' -> send a PM/notification to your watchdog -> watchdog assesess the notification -> watchdog notifies the Devs. Going outside this procedure would be insta-Junk. Absolutely no drama, no discussions etc. And the watchdog can't even abuse anything - if he sends too many bullshit notifications, the Devs can just sack him and appoint someone else.
Winston Wolf:
The GMs should see each others logs and report to the developers if they find something suspicious. The community is way to immature to do that. Besides I don't see a problem at being at the same voice server with a random faction. If I'd become a GM I'd still hang around with my people because I play with them since months. Which advantage should a GM have in helping another faction? (I don't mean spawning a barrel or other dinky things...) You gain nothing expect the risk to get caught by someone which would cause that the whole community hates you. Why should a GM punish an innocent player who barely gets his 10 hides together? I play this game since 15th August 2009 and I never had problems with a GM or a developer because I just don't do things like suicide bombing, exploiting or cheating. But it's always the same at every game. The punished one never made a mistake. ::)
Pozzo:
--- Quote ---Moreover, I find it quite curious that the only gang-related people who have something against controlling GM actions at all are members of the same group that's overrepresented in the GM crowd. Am I being paranoid again? Let's check some other threads... oooh, it's always the same. Sorry, I'm not.
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No there is a simple explication :
Rogues/MashForce/Yuras and some others use to act as jerks since the beginning of the game (insults, cheat, bug exploit, etc.).I am currently in BH during TC and instead of waiting and playing, Mash Force team insult people by shouting and treating us as idiots or other things. Maybe it is arrogant but we don't act like this. This is the difference between you and us. We respect people and we respect GMs so maybe they are cool with us and not with you and we defend them because we don't to see idiots like you insulting them or having the last word :)
Nice_Boat:
--- Quote from: Pozzo on July 19, 2010, 02:34:25 pm ---No there is a simple explication :
Rogues/MashForce/Yuras and some others use to act as jerks since the beginning of the game (insults, cheat, bug exploit, etc.).I am currently in BH during TC and instead of waiting and playing, Mash Force team insult people by shouting and treating us as idiots or other things. Maybe it is arrogant but we don't act like this. This is the difference between you and us. We respect people and we respect GMs so maybe they are cool with us and not with you and we defend them because we don't to see idiots like you insulting them :)
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Is insulting people prohibited? No, racial comments are. As long as there's no n-words flying around GMs have no business there unless the devs say otherwise. Right now I'd like to thank you for proving my point and I hope you don't have anything against each group having a fair representation for a change.
Oh and this:
--- Quote from: Pozzo on July 19, 2010, 02:34:25 pm ---We respect people
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--- Quote from: Pozzo on July 19, 2010, 02:34:25 pm ---idiots like you
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... is absolutely delicious, especially since I'm not logged in atm. So it's ok when you insult people, but it's wrong once someone else does? Somehow, it fits my opinion of you perfectly. Furthermore, this thread would be surprisingly devoid of trolls if you and your kind didn't try to take the discussion to the personal level, so begone already or learn some manners.
Pozzo:
--- Quote ---Is insulting people prohibited? No, racial comments are. As long as there's no n-words flying around GMs have no business there unless the devs say otherwise. Right now I'd like to thank you for proving my point and I hope you don't have anything against each group having a fair representation for a change.
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It is not prohibited, yes. But if you act like this don't be surprised that nobody like you :)
--- Quote ---... is absolutely delicious, especially since I'm not logged in atm.
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Maybe you didn't noticed but you are not the entire world, Nice Boat. I know this is hard for you to understand but you are just a player like others. Anyway, in english "you" can mean just you or a group of people
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