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Author Topic: Sneak - Loot  (Read 5044 times)

LeMark

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Sneak - Loot
« on: June 30, 2010, 06:47:56 pm »

Simple suggestion, the action of looting something on the ground removes the sneak status.  ATM, too many sneaker loot stuff during TC operation.
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2010, 06:49:03 pm »

Yeah that was already talked about it in another sneaking thread. Solar likes the sound of it.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2010, 07:02:15 pm »

I like that too !
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 07:13:40 pm »

I was thinking a check where it calculates weight of the object looted vs player sneak skill so that light objects can be picked up safely but anything over 1k(kilo) gives 25% chance to break sneak, 2k gives 50% and 3k or more gives 75% chance. This will keep sneak looting as a somewhat viable but risky proposition and people who are greedy will deal with the consequences.
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 07:24:58 pm »

Wasn't the weight % to reduce sneak already added?
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 07:26:57 pm »

Wasn't the weight % to reduce sneak already added?

You misunderstood, weight reduces your sneak skill currently. I'm talking about picking up heavy objects making you visible.
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 08:22:37 pm »

This is mostly a stupid idea... and it's gamey too. I don't see how picking stuff up would make you more visible than simply standing there - and I don't see how could it disrupt balance in any way. If anything, it keeps sneakers useful after they've done their scouting.

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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 08:53:45 pm »

Because that make sense for you someone come in the middle of a warzone, pick up one or two BA + Minigun and run with all this stuff? This is a game, the game play will be better without sneak looter. ATM some faction (like Crazy Barbarian) makes a lot of sneaker, come during TC and loot a lot of stuff without fighting. Some other use dual log to relog with sneak looter. The loot have to stay in the hands of fight winner, this is the point.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2010, 09:16:34 pm »

I like this idea too. Perhaps a mix between LeMark´s idea and Nice_Boat´s, but TBH, I dont really like looting with sneak ( and sneak generally ) :).
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2010, 09:20:32 pm »

Because that make sense for you someone come in the middle of a warzone, pick up one or two BA + Minigun and run with all this stuff? This is a game, the game play will be better without sneak looter. ATM some faction (like Crazy Barbarian) makes a lot of sneaker, come during TC and loot a lot of stuff without fighting. Some other use dual log to relog with sneak looter. The loot have to stay in the hands of fight winner, this is the point.

And other factions come as a third party and finish the two that have been bleeding in a close battle off - what injustice! ::) Wasteland is harsh. Detecting sneak looters is possible. Killing them is easy. Having your own helps. There really is no point whining about that. If you loose a lot of stuff to builds like these, it means your skills are lacking in this respect and you should practice more - it doesn't mean you should come to the forums and start pleading for the devs to axe an entire aspect of the game (because yeah, mopping up and looting as of right now is much more interesting than "pick shit up, say goodbye and leave" - which would be exactly the way it'd be without sneak-looters).

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 09:56:02 pm »

Who make whining there? I just post I suggestion, you don’t like it is no prob, just don't come and say this is stupid.

Nice Boat some time you have good idea, but because of your attitude you lose a lot of credibility.

I keep my point, sneaker looters are not good for the game, you thing it is a valuable way of play ok…
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 10:56:47 pm »

I think picking up items while sneaking should be possible, but it should depend on your steal skill, that way we might actually see thieves in unguarded towns.
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2010, 01:18:16 am »

I think picking up items while sneaking should be possible, but it should depend on your steal skill, that way we might actually see thieves in unguarded towns.

This.

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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 02:01:29 am »

For now, "sneak-looting" is so easy, it's too profitable, compared to PvP, PvE, or crafting, you can gain a lot of stuff without fighting, and you don't need anything except a 300 % sneak character.
So, like Lemark said, it should be balanced.
And his idea is quite good, because it should be harder to make some stuff disappear in the middle of the battlefield than now. Or every sneak-looter should obtain the "David Coperfield" perk...  :P
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Re: Sneak - Loot
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2010, 02:03:26 am »

I think picking up items while sneaking should be possible, but it should depend on your steal skill, that way we might actually see thieves in unguarded towns.


since when it makes any difference, looters are alts with 10 int and skilled perk all they do is loot stuff,
sneak was brought back b/c preview has been turned off during TC, its only for scouting purpose
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