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Author Topic: Pipe/One shoot rifle  (Read 5226 times)

Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2010, 04:05:27 am »

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I simply meant that, for instance, for a critical-based ranged character build, even on early levels, in turn-based combat it would be more beneficial to do one aimed shot at longer distance and move away with the remaining APs, thus prolonging the actual moment of taking damage against non-ranged opponents. Since weapon range also impacts your effectiveness, if I recall correctly, using a weapon with greater range but lower damage might actually be a better option until Small Guns is raised properly.

Of course, I might be utterly mistaken in the above.

Sorry for not being clearer.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2010, 04:26:22 am »

I simply meant that, for instance, for a critical-based ranged character build, even on early levels, in turn-based combat it would be more beneficial to do one aimed shot at longer distance and move away with the remaining APs, thus prolonging the actual moment of taking damage against non-ranged opponents. Since weapon range also impacts your effectiveness, if I recall correctly, using a weapon with greater range but lower damage might actually be a better option until Small Guns is raised properly.

Of course, I might be utterly mistaken in the above.

Sorry for not being clearer.

It's incredibly easy even at lvl 1 to make a 10mm pistol which is superior in every way, you'd be better off using your fist than a pipe rifle.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2010, 06:03:08 am »

It's incredibly easy even at lvl 1 to make a 10mm pistol which is superior in every way, you'd be better off using your fist than a pipe rifle.

Crap, you're right. I was thinking of the range of Red Ryder BB gun that I've been using a while back in another Fallout replay. And that one is already craftable. Duh!

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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2010, 12:09:37 am »

Have Advanced Pipe Rifle, which uses .223 rifle ammo.

Otherwise the same as Pipe Rifle except more range.


Yes, I know: bluesuit snipers will carry 2 of them so they can grief with nothing to lose, and get 2 shots without reloading.

But it makes sense.




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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2010, 12:12:06 am »

Here's an idea.  Make the pipe rifle craftable without needing a table.  That would be useful when trying to get back on one's feet
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2010, 01:05:39 am »

Here's an idea.  Make the pipe rifle craftable without needing a table.  That would be useful when trying to get back on one's feet
Yes that sounds good
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2010, 03:02:07 pm »

If it were craftable from just junk (let's face it, it IS junk!), and without a table, people wandering the wastes without a gun would be more readilly able to arm themselves.  There is the problem of where to get ammo, tho.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2010, 01:40:47 am »

Here's an idea.  Make the pipe rifle craftable without needing a table.  That would be useful when trying to get back on one's feet

full support to this idea
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2010, 09:10:25 am »

Here's an idea.  Make the pipe rifle craftable without needing a table.  That would be useful when trying to get back on one's feet

agree with this and bump

would love to see a 'pipegun' version too (one shot shotgun)

less loot for the noobhunter pks = win
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2010, 07:23:46 pm »

agree with this and bump

would love to see a 'pipegun' version too (one shot shotgun)

less loot for the noobhunter pks = win

Unless you have good gear most pkers won't even bother picking it up, having a one shot gun just guarantees you can't defend yourself.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2010, 08:13:00 pm »

Yes, but even when you have one shot gun , and good armor :D
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2010, 08:31:42 pm »

Unless you have good gear most pkers won't even bother picking it up, having a one shot gun just guarantees you can't defend yourself.
Unless you take two buffout and psycho before the fight theres no chance you can even get away :P.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2010, 02:09:09 am »

Unless you have good gear most pkers won't even bother picking it up, having a one shot gun just guarantees you can't defend yourself.

PKs sell 10mm pistols, shotguns and leather jackets to merchants in bulk. It is very lucrative for them.

I would only use a single shot gun to kill critters and if a PK entered the encounter i wouldn't lose as much.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2010, 06:26:23 am »

PKs sell 10mm pistols, shotguns and leather jackets to merchants in bulk. It is very lucrative for them.

I would only use a single shot gun to kill critters and if a PK entered the encounter i wouldn't lose as much.

anyone who thinks that's an effective way to make money is sadly mistaken.
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Re: Pipe/One shoot rifle
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2010, 02:55:21 pm »

you lose more cash spending your expensive ammo, and the durability of your oh-so-special-equppednoob-hunting weapon than getting anything good from it, and you can at any time run into another guy who is doing the same shit as you are with exactly the same build and exactly the same equipment.
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