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Remove or reduce sneak debuff from weight
toothpix:
--- Quote from: Roachor on May 29, 2010, 07:34:33 pm ---Getting -50 sneak from armour and then losing another 30 something percent due to weight is too much since sneak isn't good enough to use without gear on. You're getting penalized by the armour twice.
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Nice, Roachor, trying to sneak in a Combat Armor? ;D IIRC the point of this sneak nerf was to exactly avoid this kind of thing..
Roachor:
--- Quote from: toothpix on June 01, 2010, 03:14:47 pm ---Nice, Roachor, trying to sneak in a Combat Armor? ;D IIRC the point of this sneak nerf was to exactly avoid this kind of thing..
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You can't survive more than one shot unless you are in combat armour, sneaking in anything else is suicide as sneak doesn't hide you well enough even totally naked with no inv.
Solar:
Hrm, sounds more like a practical application fail.
So with 300 sneak, a 10 pe can see you at you at 25 hex and one hit breaks your sneak. Without armour that's 15 hex but if you get hit once most likely you're done for. Neither option is great.
Roachor:
--- Quote from: Solar on June 01, 2010, 07:57:49 pm ---Hrm, sounds more like a practical application fail.
So with 300 sneak, a 10 pe can see you at you at 25 hex and one hit breaks your sneak. Without armour that's 15 hex but if you get hit once most likely you're done for. Neither option is great.
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::) oh yeah because you have a whole 150 skill points left over with 10 int for combat skills, but hey it doesn't matter because sneak takes up 2 perk slots to work and you don't have the stats to use weapons properly anyways.
Solar:
--- Quote ---* Sneaking opponent's Sneak is modified by angle by substracting 0, 25, 50 or 75 points, depending on the look direction (back, back-side, front-side, front), reduced by 25 for wearing leather armor (any kind) or 50 for wearing any heavier armor (sneaking in powered armor is not possible). Also, 1 point is subtracted for every 1000 points of inventory weight, rounded down.
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Avenger Minigun
Weight 12700 grams = -12
Burst AP: 7, Range: 35, Rounds: 40
Combat Leather Jacket
Weight 3175 grams = -3
Armour Penalty = -25
5mm AP
Weight 9 grams, for 500 its 4500 = -4
Total = -44
35 hexes vs Pe 10 is (50-35)*6 = 90. +44 for penalties = 134.
134 to sneak into minigun range vs a Sniper from behind, 159 vs back/side, 184 from from front/side and 209 from the front. First shot advantage vs a Sniper who has no sneak, just need reasonable sneak skill (134-209%).
*Insert hundreds of other applications here*
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